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What is your denomination?

Roman Catholic
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34%
Eastern Orthodox
67
8%
Non-Chalcedonian (Oriental Orthodox, Church of the East, etc.)
6
1%
Anglican/Episcopalian
53
7%
Lutheran or Reformed (including Calvinist, Presbyterian, etc.)
95
12%
Methodist
29
4%
Baptist
89
11%
Other Evangelical Protestant (Pentecostal, Charismatic, etc.)
52
7%
Restorationist (LDS Movement, Jehovah's Witness, etc.)
18
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Other Christian
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14%
 
Total votes : 795

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Sahansahiye Iran wrote:Are there even any Copts active in NSG?

Five according to the poll.
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Postby Sahansahiye Iran » Sat Jun 02, 2018 6:41 am

:eyebrow:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Sahansahiye Iran wrote:Are there even any Copts active in NSG?

Five according to the poll.

I said active :P I've never seen one.
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Postby Auze » Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:46 am

Tarsonis wrote:
Hakons wrote:
How far it is to travel should not determine what religion you join. Join the Church that God calls you to, the Church that spreads and maintains the message of Christ.

That being said, I wouldn't recommend being baptized into Mormonism, since they haven't maintained the Gospel. I would stick to your course and get baptized at the Protestant Church. There you will be baptized and filled with the spirit of the one triune God, something the Mormons forsake.


That being said, I wouldn’t recommend being baptized into Protestantism, since they haven’t maintained the Gospel. I would change gears sand get baptized into the Catholic Church. There you will be educated, baptized and confirmed into the one true Church, something the Protestants forsake.

That being said, I wouldn’t recommend being baptized into Catholicism, since they haven’t maintained the full Gospel. I would change gears sand get baptized into the LDS Church. There you will be educated, baptized and given the Gift of the Holy Ghost, something the Catholics forsake.

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Postby Auze » Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:48 am

Hakons wrote:
Guelder wrote:
Sadly no, i have only a bycicle


How far it is to travel should not determine what religion you join. Join the Church that God calls you to, the Church that spreads and maintains the message of Christ.

That being said, I wouldn't recommend being baptized into Mormonism, since they haven't maintained the Gospel. I would stick to your course and get baptized at the Protestant Church. There you will be baptized and filled with the spirit of the one triune God, something the Mormons forsake.

No advertising your denomination. Ummm... Bad Hakons!
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Postby Tarsonis » Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:06 am

Auze wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
That being said, I wouldn’t recommend being baptized into Protestantism, since they haven’t maintained the Gospel. I would change gears sand get baptized into the Catholic Church. There you will be educated, baptized and confirmed into the one true Church, something the Protestants forsake.

That being said, I wouldn’t recommend being baptized into Catholicism, since they haven’t maintained the full Gospel. I would change gears sand get baptized into the LDS Church. There you will be educated, baptized and given the Gift of the Holy Ghost, something the Catholics forsake.

I wonder who will attach on to this next


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Postby Auze » Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:08 am

Tarsonis wrote:
Auze wrote:That being said, I wouldn’t recommend being baptized into Catholicism, since they haven’t maintained the full Gospel. I would change gears sand get baptized into the LDS Church. There you will be educated, baptized and given the Gift of the Holy Ghost, something the Catholics forsake.

I wonder who will attach on to this next


Arch already did mine. You broke the chain Auze, shame on you.

Oops.
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Postby Auze » Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:09 am

Tarsonis wrote: You broke the chain Auze, shame on you.

Also, sigging.
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Postby The Archregimancy » Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:25 am

Sahansahiye Iran wrote:Are there even any Copts active in NSG?


Copts specifically, I'm not sure.

But non-Chalcedonian Oriental Orthodox Church generally, yes. That would include the Copts, Ethiopians, Armenians, and relevant Syriacs; we've certainly had the stray Armenian floating through, and I think one or two Syriacs, too.

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Postby Diopolis » Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:38 pm

The Archregimancy wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
That being said, I wouldn’t recommend being baptized into Protestantism, since they haven’t maintained the Gospel. I would change gears sand get baptized into the Catholic Church. There you will be educated, baptized and confirmed into the one true Church, something the Protestants forsake.


That being said, I wouldn’t recommend being baptized into Protestantism, since they haven’t maintained the Gospel, or Catholicism, since they're schismatics. I would change gears sand get baptized into the Orthodox Church. There you will be educated, baptized, and confirmed into the one true Church, something the Protestants and Roman Catholics forsake.

<waits for a stray Copt to add to the chain>

That being said, I wouldn't recommend being baptized into protestantism, since they haven't maintained apostolic succession, or the Novus Ordo church, since they teach heresy, or the Orthodox, since they also do that and are in schism too. I'd change gears and see if there are any SSPX chapels near you. There you will be baptized, received into the church, and educated in the true doctrine of the faith, something the Orthodox, Modernists, and Protestants forsake.
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Postby New Vetalia » Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:50 pm

Hi all, Vetalia here. I'm a practicing Roman Catholic again after a long road back home, now seriously discerning a vocation to the priesthood and more or less in application to the seminary here in the Diocese of Cleveland.
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New Vetalia wrote:Hi all, Vetalia here. I'm a practicing Roman Catholic again after a long road back home, now seriously discerning a vocation to the priesthood and more or less in application to the seminary here in the Diocese of Cleveland.


Cool, good luck, mate.

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Postby Huntpublic » Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:22 pm

New Vetalia wrote:Hi all, Vetalia here. I'm a practicing Roman Catholic again after a long road back home, now seriously discerning a vocation to the priesthood and more or less in application to the seminary here in the Diocese of Cleveland.


Good man! Just remember to keep your eye on Jesus no matter what, and keep your eyes on the prize which is making it to Heaven! See you there brother.
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Postby Hakons » Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:29 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Hakons wrote:
How far it is to travel should not determine what religion you join. Join the Church that God calls you to, the Church that spreads and maintains the message of Christ.

That being said, I wouldn't recommend being baptized into Mormonism, since they haven't maintained the Gospel. I would stick to your course and get baptized at the Protestant Church. There you will be baptized and filled with the spirit of the one triune God, something the Mormons forsake.


That being said, I wouldn’t recommend being baptized into Protestantism, since they haven’t maintained the Gospel. I would change gears sand get baptized into the Catholic Church. There you will be educated, baptized and confirmed into the one true Church, something the Protestants forsake.


Sigh... Is it too much to ask for you to recognize the validity of Protestant baptism? I began by stating that Guelder should choose the Church that God leads him to. I then suggested for him to avoid Mormonism, since they don't believe in the one triune God. I suggested the Protestant Church since Guelder already said that was his plan ("I would stick to your course..."). I merely offered more rationale to that decision based on concrete theological reasons. It is obviously better to be baptised in the name of God and not a heretical version.

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Hakons wrote:
How far it is to travel should not determine what religion you join. Join the Church that God calls you to, the Church that spreads and maintains the message of Christ.

That being said, I wouldn't recommend being baptized into Mormonism, since they haven't maintained the Gospel. I would stick to your course and get baptized at the Protestant Church. There you will be baptized and filled with the spirit of the one triune God, something the Mormons forsake.

No advertising your denomination. Ummm... Bad Hakons!


I'm not part of the Protestantse Kerk in Nederland. :p
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Postby Hakons » Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:31 pm

New Vetalia wrote:Hi all, Vetalia here. I'm a practicing Roman Catholic again after a long road back home, now seriously discerning a vocation to the priesthood and more or less in application to the seminary here in the Diocese of Cleveland.


I would encourage you to become a priest. Those that have walked back to God can better connect to people that need to find the way back as well.
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Postby Tarsonis » Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:34 pm

Hakons wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
That being said, I wouldn’t recommend being baptized into Protestantism, since they haven’t maintained the Gospel. I would change gears sand get baptized into the Catholic Church. There you will be educated, baptized and confirmed into the one true Church, something the Protestants forsake.


Sigh... Is it too much to ask for you to recognize the validity of Protestant baptism? I began by stating that Guelder should choose the Church that God leads him to. I then suggested for him to avoid Mormonism, since they don't believe in the one triune God. I suggested the Protestant Church since Guelder already said that was his plan ("I would stick to your course..."). I merely offered more rationale to that decision based on concrete theological reasons. It is obviously better to be baptised in the name of God and not a heretical version.


Sure, but you can't expect me to pass up a golden opportunity like that. If you're just gonna lob them up there. As you see I've created a pasta chain that everyone's getting in on.
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Postby New Vetalia » Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:37 pm

Huntpublic wrote:Good man! Just remember to keep your eye on Jesus no matter what, and keep your eyes on the prize which is making it to Heaven! See you there brother.


Thanks, I try my best to keep my eye on the Cross and remember the sacrifice Jesus made for all of us so I never forget that we can do nothing without God's grace. Every fall is a new opportunity to pick yourself up and try again.

God willing I'll see you in Heaven, brother.
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New Vetalia wrote:
Huntpublic wrote:Good man! Just remember to keep your eye on Jesus no matter what, and keep your eyes on the prize which is making it to Heaven! See you there brother.


Thanks, I try my best to keep my eye on the Cross and remember the sacrifice Jesus made for all of us so I never forget that we can do nothing without God's grace. Every fall is a new opportunity to pick yourself up and try again.

God willing I'll see you in Heaven, brother.


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Postby Hakons » Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:48 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Hakons wrote:
Sigh... Is it too much to ask for you to recognize the validity of Protestant baptism? I began by stating that Guelder should choose the Church that God leads him to. I then suggested for him to avoid Mormonism, since they don't believe in the one triune God. I suggested the Protestant Church since Guelder already said that was his plan ("I would stick to your course..."). I merely offered more rationale to that decision based on concrete theological reasons. It is obviously better to be baptised in the name of God and not a heretical version.


Sure, but you can't expect me to pass up a golden opportunity like that. If you're just gonna lob them up there. As you see I've created a pasta chain that everyone's getting in on.


I didn't "lob them up there." I advocated for a trinitarian baptism, but apparently that was too much for your dogmatism. The pasta chain is funny. What started it was annoying and pointless.
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Postby New Vetalia » Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:50 pm

Hakons wrote:I would encourage you to become a priest. Those that have walked back to God can better connect to people that need to find the way back as well.


That's actually the feedback I got from more than a few people recently! It helps a lot from a pastoral perspective that I understand the questions, concerns and doubts of people who have lapsed because I was in the same boat not too long ago (and racked up quite a tally of mortal sins during that time). There are a lot of tough habitual sins to overcome for a revert, especially in this culture, that I can help with, as I too struggle with them daily.

Unsurprisingly, St. Augustine is my personal patron saint, and he was my Confirmation saint as his works and his story brought me back to the Faith. :)
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Postby Hakons » Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:53 pm

New Vetalia wrote:
Hakons wrote:I would encourage you to become a priest. Those that have walked back to God can better connect to people that need to find the way back as well.


That's actually the feedback I got from more than a few people recently! It helps a lot from a pastoral perspective that I understand the questions, concerns and doubts of people who have lapsed because I was in the same boat not too long ago (and racked up quite a tally of mortal sins during that time). There are a lot of tough habitual sins to overcome for a revert, especially in this culture, that I can help with, as I too struggle with them daily.

Unsurprisingly, St. Augustine is my personal patron saint, and he was my Confirmation saint as his works and his story brought me back to the Faith. :)


I'm reading City of God right now :)
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Postby New Vetalia » Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:57 pm

Hakons wrote:I'm reading City of God right now :)


Nice, I have that on my Kindle but haven't read it yet! I need to finish "The Return of the Prodigal Son" that my spiritual director recommended first before I dig into that. Augustine's Confessions was the work that brought me home.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat Jun 02, 2018 6:02 pm

Tarsonis wrote:This is the quietest I’ve ever seen this thread in summer

How eerie.
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Postby Auze » Sat Jun 02, 2018 6:03 pm

Hakons wrote: I merely offered more rationale to that decision based on concrete theological reasons. It is obviously better to be baptised in the name of God and not a heretical version.

Says the heretic.
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Postby Tarsonis » Sat Jun 02, 2018 6:05 pm

Hakons wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Sure, but you can't expect me to pass up a golden opportunity like that. If you're just gonna lob them up there. As you see I've created a pasta chain that everyone's getting in on.


I didn't "lob them up there." I advocated for a trinitarian baptism, but apparently that was too much for your dogmatism. The pasta chain is funny. What started it was annoying and pointless.


And you don't think Auze saw your post as annoying an pointless, and was frustrated at you, the exact same way you're frustrated at me?

And yes you did lob that up there. You can't criticize another denomination of abandoning the Gospel without opening yourself up to the same attack from others who hold the same opinion of your denomination. Regardless of what I think of Mormonism, your critical interjections were not solicited nor wanted. I showed the same amount of dogmatism that you showed Auze. If your house is made from such fragile glass, you really shouldn't throw stones.
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