The Christian Discussion thread IX: Pelagius Rising.

[The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom]

it really isn’t.

Armaggeddon

Far be it from me to step on peoples pearls, but Joel doesn’t know a damn thing about the science behind these topics. His posts aren’t even original he’s merely parroting (sometimes word for word) other similar blog posts of people equally as ignorant.

Then write to the webmaster and correct him; or put/link -up a website that does.

Eh, not all of us.

"They know not, neither will they understand;
they walk on in darkness:
all the foundations of the earth are out of course."
(Psalms 82:5, KJV)

[Albrenia]

Since this isn't the place for an evolution debate, and I'm a guest here as an Atheist and don't want to swipe at your faith, I'll just suggest looking into Evolution anew.

It doesn't disprove God in any way, but it is almost certainly true.

[Tarsonis]

it really isn’t.

Armaggeddon

Again, Israel really isn’t important. The belief in a restoration of an Israeli nation state as a necessary precursor for the end times is a not an orthodox Christian belief. It’s a Protestant one that has roots in the reformation but didn’t really arise until the 19th century. It’s up there with the rapture as “Evangelical nonsense”

Far be it from me to step on peoples pearls, but Joel doesn’t know a damn thing about the science behind these topics. His posts aren’t even original he’s merely parroting (sometimes word for word) other similar blog posts of people equally as ignorant.

Then write to the webmaster and correct him; or put/link -up a website that does.

a Roman Catholic writing an Australian evangelical fundamentalist correcting him in his knowledge? Oh that’s going to go over well won’t it. However if you’d like I’ll refute it point for point on the forum.

Eh, not all of us.

"They know not, neither will they understand;
they walk on in darkness:
all the foundations of the earth are out of course."
(Psalms 82:5, KJV)

When I look at your heavens, the work of your fingers,
the moon and the stars that you have established;
4 what are human beings that you are mindful of them,
mortals that you care for them?
5 Yet you have made them a little lower than God,
and crowned them with glory and honor.

Psalm 8: 3-5 NRSVCE

It’s a big book. Maybe you need another read through.

[The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom]

Again, Israel really isn’t important. The belief in a restoration of an Israeli nation state as a necessary precursor for the end times is a not an orthodox Christian belief. It’s a Protestant one that has roots in the reformation but didn’t really arise until the 19th century. It’s up there with the rapture as “Evangelical nonsense”

Unless the nation which was scattered in 70 A.D. was raised up once more, events towards the latter half of Revelation make no sense. If prophecy were unfolding before your eyes, why won't you pay it more attention? The refounding of Israel in 1948 excited the entire Evangelical Protestant branch, 800 mil according to latest estimates. Even if we are 'schismatics' to the RC church, don't the magisterium generally support your Pontiff's exhortation to "know the smell of the sheep"?

One should not be so quick to dismiss the viewpoint of so many others who have (or have not) been baptized with the Holy Spirit as merely "nonsense".

a Roman Catholic writing an Australian evangelical fundamentalist correcting him in his knowledge? Oh that’s going to go over well won’t it. However if you’d like I’ll refute it point for point on the forum.

No need to post your refutation here, I know the smell of the sheep! Write to the webmaster if you think he has been spreading grave errors, remember in Catholic doctrine "omission of right action is a sin" (something to that effect). In true Protestant fashion, whether you do it or not I see that as something between you and God.

When I look at your heavens, the work of your fingers,
the moon and the stars that you have established;
4 what are human beings that you are mindful of them,
mortals that you care for them?
5 Yet you have made them a little lower than God,
and crowned them with glory and honor.

Psalm 8: 3-5 NRSVCE

It’s a big book. Maybe you need another read through.

"For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"
(Romans 3:23, KJV)

[Albrenia]

What does 'the smell of your sheep' mean, for the unenlightened?

[The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom]

What does 'the smell of your sheep' mean, for the unenlightened?

My own understanding is "to empathize with the difficulties of the flock" (living and working among them), its something the Pope has been saying alot recently to emphasize his teaching on pastoral care.
But I am a sheep and not a pastor!

[Gim]

What does 'the smell of your sheep' mean, for the unenlightened?

Sheep is symbolic of Jesus Christ. Smell means "scent", so scent of Jesus Christ is the answer.

[The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom]

What does 'the smell of your sheep' mean, for the unenlightened?

Sheep is symbolic of Jesus Christ. Smell means "scent", so scent of Jesus Christ is the answer.

Did you obtain this explanation from somewhere?
Our Lord is referred to in the Scriptures as Lamb of God.

[Gim]

Sheep is symbolic of Jesus Christ. Smell means "scent", so scent of Jesus Christ is the answer.

Did you obtain this explanation from somewhere?
Our Lord is referred to in the Scriptures as Lamb of God.

Lamb and sheep. I consider them similar.

[The Archregimancy]

Did you obtain this explanation from somewhere?
Our Lord is referred to in the Scriptures as Lamb of God.

Lamb and sheep. I consider them similar.

Well, they are, I suppose; except that it defeats the entire point of the metaphor. Traditionally lambs were used for sacrifice rather than sheep, our Jewish friends don't eat passover mutton, and 'ovis Dei, qui tolis peccata mundi: miserere nobis' perhaps doesn't have quite the same ring for our Catholic cousins.

Sheep are typically used for a completely different Biblical metaphor with a very different meaning (see Isaiah 53:6).

[Gim]

Lamb and sheep. I consider them similar.

Well, they are, I suppose; except that it defeats the entire point of the metaphor. Traditionally lambs were used for sacrifice rather than sheep, our Jewish friends don't eat passover mutton, and 'ovis Dei, qui tolis peccata mundi: miserere nobis' perhaps doesn't have quite the same ring for our Catholic cousins.

Sheep are typically used for a completely different Biblical metaphor with a very different meaning (see Isaiah 53:6).

We are the sheep; God is the shepard. Ah, yes. That just went across from my memory there. Hopefully, I don't get confused next time.

[The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom]

We are the sheep; ...

Sure, if you are Christian baptized in the Trinitarian formula.

[Anarcho capitalist utopia]

I have changed my view on christianity. From now on im only tolerating Christian Identity, and I won't accept anything else

Everyone who doesn't practice christian identity is a cuck, catholics, protestants, east orthodox, Luthern, ect. have all been cucked by jews

[The Archregimancy]

We are the sheep; ...

Sure, if you are Christian baptized in the Trinitarian formula.

Lambs are surely Arian, not Nicene.

Lambs and sheep are homoiousis rather than homoousios; lambs do not solely proceed from the sheep, but are also created therefrom.

[Ransium]

I have changed my view on christianity. From now on im only tolerating Christian Identity, and I won't accept anything else

Everyone who doesn't practice christian identity is a cuck, catholics, protestants, east orthodox, Luthern, ect. have all been cucked by jews

Given your history: *** 3-day ban for trolling. ***

[The Blaatschapen]

What does 'the smell of your sheep' mean, for the unenlightened?

Sheep is symbolic of Jesus Christ. Smell means "scent", so scent of Jesus Christ is the answer.

I used to be the Lamb of Mod.

[The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom]

I have changed my view on christianity. From now on im only tolerating Christian Identity, and I won't accept anything else

Everyone who doesn't practice christian identity is a cuck, catholics, protestants, east orthodox, Luthern, ect. have all been cucked by jews

There are still doctrinal differences (big and small) between the various denominations, though I don't know the specifics well.

Lambs are surely Arian, not Nicene.

Lambs and sheep are homoiousis rather than homoousios; lambs do not solely proceed from the sheep, but are also created therefrom.

English, dude. English!

[Big Jim P]

Sheep is symbolic of Jesus Christ. Smell means "scent", so scent of Jesus Christ is the answer.

I used to be the Lamb of Mod.

You're going to hell for that one, most certainly.

[The Blaatschapen]

I used to be the Lamb of Mod.

You're going to hell for that one, most certainly.

Eh, I'll live.

[Big Jim P]

You're going to hell for that one, most certainly.

Eh, I'll live.

When you get there, drop my name. You'll get VIP treatment.

[The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom]

Big Jim P


"12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots; 13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever."
(Jude 1:12-13, KJV)

[Hakons]

>People thinking Hell is a laughing matter

[The Blaatschapen]

>People thinking Hell is a laughing matter

Everything that holds power has to be able to be ridiculed. Hell is no exception.

[United Muscovite Nations]

>People thinking Hell is a laughing matter

Everything that holds power has to be able to be ridiculed. Hell is no exception.

Not really, because then you can start making excuses for blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.

[Reikoku]

Everything that holds power has to be able to be ridiculed. Hell is no exception.

Not really, because then you can start making excuses for blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.

Does Big Jim P really need excuses?