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Postby Albrenia » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:12 pm

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Ascoobis wrote:God, how there always "new" sanctions? When do the reach the point where you've completely and utterly sanctioned and embargoed North Korea?

A full-on land, sea, and sky blockade?


It's too bad they can't block all television and radio signals in North Korea and replace them with Fox News 24/7.

That would make me laugh my brains out.

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Postby Steffan » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:12 pm

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Steffan wrote:UN passes fresh sanctions on North Korea...again

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/11/politics/ ... index.html

God, how there always "new" sanctions? When do the reach the point where you've completely and utterly sanctioned and embargoed North Korea?

Not yet. The sanctions that just passed were watered down from the original draft because China and Russia whined that they were too harsh...
ffs >:(
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Postby Zanera » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:12 pm

Camicon wrote:
Ascoobis wrote:God, how there always "new" sanctions? When do the reach the point where you've completely and utterly sanctioned and embargoed North Korea?

A full-on land, sea, and sky blockade?


No air or rain clouds allowed into North Korea.

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Postby Eol Sha » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:14 pm

Steffan wrote:
Ascoobis wrote:God, how there always "new" sanctions? When do the reach the point where you've completely and utterly sanctioned and embargoed North Korea?

Not yet. The sanctions that just passed were watered down from the original draft because China and Russia whined that they were too harsh...
ffs >:(

Its not surprising.
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Postby Steffan » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:14 pm

Albrenia wrote:
Camicon wrote:A full-on land, sea, and sky blockade?


It's too bad they can't block all television and radio signals in North Korea and replace them with Fox News 24/7.

That would make me laugh my brains out.

Now that would be a true human rights abuse :lol:
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Postby Albrenia » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:15 pm

Steffan wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
It's too bad they can't block all television and radio signals in North Korea and replace them with Fox News 24/7.

That would make me laugh my brains out.

Now that would be a true human rights abuse :lol:


Yes, I think any country would consider it an act of war. :lol2:

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Postby Ascoobis » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:19 pm

Camicon wrote:
Ascoobis wrote:God, how there always "new" sanctions? When do the reach the point where you've completely and utterly sanctioned and embargoed North Korea?

A full-on land, sea, and sky blockade?

Wouldn't be worth the cost. That'd probably lead to war immediately.

I meant through current means of trade.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:21 pm

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Camicon wrote:A full-on land, sea, and sky blockade?

Wouldn't be worth the cost. That'd probably lead to war immediately.

I meant through current means of trade.

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Postby Ascoobis » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:22 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Ascoobis wrote:Wouldn't be worth the cost. That'd probably lead to war immediately.

I meant through current means of trade.

Opium.

Yes. Why haven't we thought of it before......

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Postby Steffan » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:23 pm

Camicon wrote:
Ascoobis wrote:God, how there always "new" sanctions? When do the reach the point where you've completely and utterly sanctioned and embargoed North Korea?

A full-on land, sea, and sky blockade?

How the hell would we block land access? There would need to be troops and equipment in China and Russia.
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Postby Ascoobis » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:24 pm

Steffan wrote:
Camicon wrote:A full-on land, sea, and sky blockade?

How the hell would we block land access? There would need to be troops and equipment in China and Russia.

Get them to cooperate...somehow and in a very vague manner....yeah...
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Postby Steffan » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:26 pm

Ascoobis wrote:
Steffan wrote:How the hell would we block land access? There would need to be troops and equipment in China and Russia.

Get them to cooperate...somehow and in a very vague manner....yeah...

It'll happen. Don't worry. Believe me. :lol:
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Postby Ascoobis » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:28 pm

Steffan wrote:
Ascoobis wrote:Get them to cooperate...somehow and in a very vague manner....yeah...

It'll happen. Don't worry. Believe me. :lol:

Will it happen by Trump offering to be a literal lotion boy?

*Shudders at thought*
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Postby Steffan » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:29 pm

Ascoobis wrote:
Steffan wrote:It'll happen. Don't worry. Believe me. :lol:

Will it happen by Trump offering to be a literal lotion boy?

*Shudders at thought*

Eeeeewwwww...
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Postby Galloism » Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:38 pm

Zanera wrote:
Camicon wrote:A full-on land, sea, and sky blockade?


No air or rain clouds allowed into North Korea.

If we were really determined, we could probably arrange that.
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Postby Camicon » Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:42 pm

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Zanera wrote:
No air or rain clouds allowed into North Korea.

If we were really determined, we could probably arrange that.

Light the atmosphere on fire. I hear that all you need to do is detonate enough nukes. You could even us North Korea as a patsy, blame it on their hydrogen bomb tests!
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Postby Galloism » Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:52 pm

Camicon wrote:
Galloism wrote:If we were really determined, we could probably arrange that.

Light the atmosphere on fire. I hear that all you need to do is detonate enough nukes. You could even us North Korea as a patsy, blame it on their hydrogen bomb tests!

Well, dropping enough energy into North Korea to literally turn the air into plasma (which isn't technically "air" anymore) would render the need to eliminate the air obsolete anyway.
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Postby Zanera » Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:03 pm

Galloism wrote:
Zanera wrote:
No air or rain clouds allowed into North Korea.

If we were really determined, we could probably arrange that.


Invent weather control to end the rhyme "The rains in North Koreain falls mainly on the Pyongyains." Then engineer towards stopping global wind patterns from blowing through North Korea.

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Postby Aidannadia » Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:04 pm

Steffan wrote:
Ascoobis wrote:God, how there always "new" sanctions? When do the reach the point where you've completely and utterly sanctioned and embargoed North Korea?

Not yet. The sanctions that just passed were watered down from the original draft because China and Russia whined that they were too harsh...
ffs >:(

Because we should use starving people to pressure an uncaring leader for playing with big boy toys.
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Postby The United Holy German Reich » Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:58 pm

I'll be honest, I was big on Trump when he first came in. His economic nationalism and populist rhetoric appealed to me in a big way.

After ~7 months, I can only conclude that Trump is yet another authoritarian kleptocrat who can't get anything done other than the most basic legislation.
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Postby The United Holy German Reich » Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:59 pm

I'll be honest, I was big on Trump when he first came in. His economic nationalism and populist rhetoric appealed to me in a big way.

After ~7 months, I can only conclude that Trump is yet another authoritarian kleptocrat who can't get anything done other than the most basic of legislation.
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Postby Eol Sha » Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:00 pm

The United Holy German Reich wrote:I'll be honest, I was big on Trump when he first came in. His economic nationalism and populist rhetoric appealed to me in a big way.

After ~7 months, I can only conclude that Trump is yet another authoritarian kleptocrat who can't get anything done other than the most basic legislation.

If only people had listen to the so-called "alarmists".
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Postby The Rich Port » Mon Sep 11, 2017 9:33 pm

Eol Sha wrote:
The United Holy German Reich wrote:I'll be honest, I was big on Trump when he first came in. His economic nationalism and populist rhetoric appealed to me in a big way.

After ~7 months, I can only conclude that Trump is yet another authoritarian kleptocrat who can't get anything done other than the most basic legislation.

If only people had listen to the so-called "alarmists".


If only people had made basic efforts at critical thinking.

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Postby Zanera » Mon Sep 11, 2017 9:45 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:If only people had listen to the so-called "alarmists".


If only people had made basic efforts at critical thinking.


If only people hadn't all flushed their toilets simultaneously...

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Postby Senkaku » Mon Sep 11, 2017 9:53 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:If only people had listen to the so-called "alarmists".


If only people had made basic efforts at critical thinking.

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