Trump MAGAthread IX: Korea, The Dreamers and Trump

[Northern Davincia]

Surprise surprise surprise.

Donald Trump doesn't know how to do fucking shit.

He's handling North Korea like a summer Nationstates noobie handles a summer Nationstates troll in the RP threads, is handling the immigration situation like an OCD sufferer handles an ant infestation (by spraying himself with pesticide) and, admittedly a first in presidential history, handles the White House like it's a goddamn porn parody of itself.

"I can't suck my own dick" indeed...

C'mon, let's not drag Bill Clinton into this.

[Clintonburge]

Trump is not an independent, he is pushing the far-right agenda, and doing it poorly, so much so that he is losing support. Just because he makes concessions with the dems, doesn't meant he is moving towards the center.

The gullible press shouldn't fall for Trump's tricks.

[Northern Davincia]

Trump is not an independent, he is pushing the far-right agenda, and doing it poorly, so much so that he is losing support. Just because he makes concessions with the dems, doesn't meant he is moving towards the center.

The gullible press shouldn't fall for Trump's tricks.

They will anyway. Trump plays the media like a fiddle.

[Valrifell]

Trump is not an independent, he is pushing the far-right agenda, and doing it poorly, so much so that he is losing support. Just because he makes concessions with the dems, doesn't meant he is moving towards the center.

The gullible press shouldn't fall for Trump's tricks.

They will anyway. Trump plays the media like a fiddle.

What use is getting free press when it's overwhelmingly negative and makes people extremely unhappy with you? I've always been a skeptic of the hypothesis that reporting on negative Trump things makes more Trump supporters.

[Clintonburge]

They will anyway. Trump plays the media like a fiddle.

What use is getting free press when it's overwhelmingly negative and makes people extremely unhappy with you? I've always been a skeptic of the hypothesis that reporting on negative Trump things makes more Trump supporters.

Well, for some Trump supporters, Trumps attacks on LGBTQ, Hispanics, Immigrants, Media, etc, are met with praise. So, what many would consider negative, some would consider positive.

[Valrifell]

What use is getting free press when it's overwhelmingly negative and makes people extremely unhappy with you? I've always been a skeptic of the hypothesis that reporting on negative Trump things makes more Trump supporters.

Well, for some Trump supporters, Trumps attacks on LGBTQ, Hispanics, Immigrants, Media, etc, is met with praise. What many would consider negative, some would consider positive.

Trump's base isn't large enough at the moment to secure him an election. He's got to win back those disenchanted with him, or those moderate Republicans who never really liked him in the first place. Problem being, most people don't like him largely through his obnoxious personality.

[Clintonburge]

Well, for some Trump supporters, Trumps attacks on LGBTQ, Hispanics, Immigrants, Media, etc, is met with praise. What many would consider negative, some would consider positive.

Trump's base isn't large enough at the moment to secure him an election. He's got to win back those disenchanted with him, or those moderate Republicans who never really liked him in the first place. Problem being, most people don't like him largely through his obnoxious personality.

I'm not sure how large Trump's base actually is, based upon his many legislative failures I doubt its growing. I did see polling data last month that suggested he has lost support in the swing states that won him the election. I'm actually surprised Trump hasn't started a war, like previous unpopular presidents have, just to boost his approvals.

[Eol Sha]

Trump's base isn't large enough at the moment to secure him an election. He's got to win back those disenchanted with him, or those moderate Republicans who never really liked him in the first place. Problem being, most people don't like him largely through his obnoxious personality.

I'm not sure how large Trump's base actually is, based upon his many legislative failures I doubt its growing. I did see polling data last month that suggested he has lost support in the swing states that won him the election. I'm actually surprised Trump hasn't started a war, like previous unpopular presidents have, just to boost his approvals.

The polling indicates its around 20% of the electorate. They're the ones who strongly approve of Trump.

[Eol Sha]

The war with Bannon is heating up.

[Cannot think of a name]

Guys, we all know NK has created a weather machine. 3 hurricanes in one months time? That's not typical... that earthquake was a mistake, but Kim Jon something has gotten it to work...

Pretty sure 3 hurricanes in one month is perfectly typical.

Maybe not so much 3 at once.

In order to get three hurricanes to hit the US this close together in our history you have to include Hawaii.

[Clintonburge]

The war with Bannon is heating up.

I've noticed, that many right wingers seem to elude that if Trump is removed from office there will be a "civil war". This has been said by people like Roger Stone, and now by Bannon. What is with them and "civil wars"? Don't they know the last one was fought over slavery, but they would probably deny and say it was "States' rights".

[Eol Sha]

The war with Bannon is heating up.

I've noticed, that many right wingers seem to elude that if Trump is removed from office there will be a "civil war". This has been said by people like Roger Stone, and now by Bannon. What is with them and "civil wars"? Don't they know the last one was fought over slavery, but they would probably deny and say it was "States' rights".

I mean, I'd expect there to be a civil war. If the Republican establishment removes Trump then they'll be fighting directly with a large portion of their base who actually *gulp* like Trump.

[Clintonburge]

I've noticed, that many right wingers seem to elude that if Trump is removed from office there will be a "civil war". This has been said by people like Roger Stone, and now by Bannon. What is with them and "civil wars"? Don't they know the last one was fought over slavery, but they would probably deny and say it was "States' rights".

I mean, I'd expect there to be a civil war. If the Republican establishment removes Trump then they'll be fighting directly with a large portion of their base who actually *gulp* like Trump.

Again, I'm not sure what a "Civil war" would mean in this instance. If its political party infighting, that wouldn't constitute a civil war, more likely a tea party like scenario.

[Eol Sha]

I mean, I'd expect there to be a civil war. If the Republican establishment removes Trump then they'll be fighting directly with a large portion of their base who actually *gulp* like Trump.

Again, I'm not sure what a "Civil war" would mean in this instance. If its political party infighting, that wouldn't constitute a civil war, more likely a tea party like scenario.

I think it'd be far worse than the Tea Party. After all, you're taking out the guy they most identify with. The guy they're responsible for giving him the momentum needed to capture the nomination and the presidency.

[Clintonburge]

Again, I'm not sure what a "Civil war" would mean in this instance. If its political party infighting, that wouldn't constitute a civil war, more likely a tea party like scenario.

I think it'd be far worse than the Tea Party. After all, you're taking out the guy they most identify with. The guy they're responsible for giving him the momentum needed to capture the nomination and the presidency.

According to that logic, anytime a President is removed from office, a civil war can occur, but that has not been the case. Also, even if Trump is removed, there is still Mike Pence.

[Zanera]

I think it'd be far worse than the Tea Party. After all, you're taking out the guy they most identify with. The guy they're responsible for giving him the momentum needed to capture the nomination and the presidency.

According to that logic, anytime a President is removed from office, a civil war can occur, but that has not been the case. Also, even if Trump is removed, there is still Mike Pence.

Trump might have supporters that are more fanatical than the usual due to the apparently unusual political climate. There might be some uppitiness but I'd like to think nothing beyond that. Besides that one woman with the wall costume. She was pretty excited about Trump.

[Eol Sha]

I think it'd be far worse than the Tea Party. After all, you're taking out the guy they most identify with. The guy they're responsible for giving him the momentum needed to capture the nomination and the presidency.

According to that logic, anytime a President is removed from office, a civil war can occur, but that has not been the case. Also, even if Trump is removed, there is still Mike Pence.

Mike Pence is not the kind of guy who Trump supporters want in office.

I hope you don't think I mean an actual, physical civil war.

[Clintonburge]

According to that logic, anytime a President is removed from office, a civil war can occur, but that has not been the case. Also, even if Trump is removed, there is still Mike Pence.

Mike Pence is not the kind of guy who Trump supporters want in office.

I hope you don't think I mean an actual, physical civil war.

Your saying something would occur that is "far worse" than the tea party, what did you mean?

[Eol Sha]

Mike Pence is not the kind of guy who Trump supporters want in office.

I hope you don't think I mean an actual, physical civil war.

Your saying something would occur that is "far worse" than the tea party, what did you mean?

For the most part, the mass Tea Party movement fizzled out after two years. There quest to root out the RINOs lost a lot of steam by 2012 and 2014 and especially 2016. I don't know how much staying power the Trump people have, but I can imagine the infighting being far more vicious since the Tea Partiers didn't have a president to rally behind. They didn't have a politically powerful figure representing their interests. The Trumpies do have that and I think that counts for a lot.

Whether they can oust the establishment types is a legitimate and interesting question, but I don't think they'll lie down without a fight.

[Clintonburge]

Your saying something would occur that is "far worse" than the tea party, what did you mean?

For the most part, the mass Tea Party movement fizzled out after two years. There quest to root out the RINOs lost a lot of steam by 2012 and 2014 and especially 2016. I don't know how much staying power the Trump people have, but I can imagine the infighting being far more vicious since the Tea Partiers didn't have a president to rally behind. They didn't have a politically powerful figure representing their interests. The Trumpies do have that and I think that counts for a lot.

Whether they can oust the establishment types is a legitimate and interesting question, but I don't think they'll lie down without a fight.

The Trump movement has people like Bannon and the billionaire Mercer family, so they could do some real damage to the GOP.

[Eol Sha]

For the most part, the mass Tea Party movement fizzled out after two years. There quest to root out the RINOs lost a lot of steam by 2012 and 2014 and especially 2016. I don't know how much staying power the Trump people have, but I can imagine the infighting being far more vicious since the Tea Partiers didn't have a president to rally behind. They didn't have a politically powerful figure representing their interests. The Trumpies do have that and I think that counts for a lot.

Whether they can oust the establishment types is a legitimate and interesting question, but I don't think they'll lie down without a fight.

The Trump movement has people like Bannon and the billionaire Mercer family, so they could do some real damage to the GOP.

Yes, I think so. Although, I wonder whether the Mercers will just move on to someone else. They initially backed Ted Cruz, after all.

[Steffan]

The Trump movement has people like Bannon and the billionaire Mercer family, so they could do some real damage to the GOP.

Yes, I think so. Although, I wonder whether the Mercers will just move on to someone else. They initially backed Ted Cruz, after all.

Eeeewwwwwwww...

[Steffan]

UN passes fresh sanctions on North Korea...again

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/11/politics/ ... index.html

[Ascoobis]

UN passes fresh sanctions on North Korea...again

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/11/politics/ ... index.html

God, how there always "new" sanctions? When do the reach the point where you've completely and utterly sanctioned and embargoed North Korea?

[Camicon]

UN passes fresh sanctions on North Korea...again

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/11/politics/ ... index.html

God, how there always "new" sanctions? When do the reach the point where you've completely and utterly sanctioned and embargoed North Korea?

A full-on land, sea, and sky blockade?