Trump MAGAthread IX: Korea, The Dreamers and Trump

[Ifreann]

I hesitate to call Bannon a genius because he doesn't deserve the praise or respect.

His effectiveness as a political operative cannot be discounted.

Given that he was fired, perhaps it can.

[Aidannadia]

His effectiveness as a political operative cannot be discounted.

Given that he was fired, perhaps it can.

He "resigned". He also heavily hinted that his firing was purely political, and that he would be a more effective operator at attacking the president's perceived enemies in his own party if he was not a member of the white house staff.

[Ifreann]

Given that he was fired, perhaps it can.

He "resigned". He also heavily hinted that his firing was purely political, and that he would be a more effective operator at attacking the president's perceived enemies in his own party if he was not a member of the white house staff.

Man can say whatever the fuck he wants, if you're in the White House, and then you're not, then as a political operator you have done something wrong. Your political operation has fucked up.

[Clintonburge]

Given that he was fired, perhaps it can.

He "resigned". He also heavily hinted that his firing was purely political, and that he would be a more effective operator at attacking the president's perceived enemies in his own party if he was not a member of the white house staff.

I doubt Bannon has more influence with Trump than Ivanka or Jared, who also may have pressured Bannon to leave.

[Aidannadia]

He "resigned". He also heavily hinted that his firing was purely political, and that he would be a more effective operator at attacking the president's perceived enemies in his own party if he was not a member of the white house staff.

Man can say whatever the fuck he wants, if you're in the White House, and then you're not, then as a political operator you have done something wrong. Your political operation has fucked up.

If you think Bannon isn't still able to influence Trump through backchannels, mutual friends, and political allies in order to further push their vision, you're being a little naïve.

[Aidannadia]

He "resigned". He also heavily hinted that his firing was purely political, and that he would be a more effective operator at attacking the president's perceived enemies in his own party if he was not a member of the white house staff.

I doubt Bannon has more influence with Trump than Ivanka or Jared, who also may have pressured Bannon to leave.

Can you name one thing Ivanka has actually influenced her father on?

[Clintonburge]

I doubt Bannon has more influence with Trump than Ivanka or Jared, who also may have pressured Bannon to leave.

Can you name one thing Ivanka has actually influenced her father on?

Um, the Syria strikes in April?

Ivanka Trump influenced my father to launch Syria strikes, reveals brother Eric

[Ifreann]

Man can say whatever the fuck he wants, if you're in the White House, and then you're not, then as a political operator you have done something wrong. Your political operation has fucked up.

If you think Bannon isn't still able to influence Trump through backchannels, mutual friends, and political allies in order to further push their vision, you're being a little naïve.

If you think Bannon has as much influence from whatever basement he currently inhabits as he had from the literal fucking White House then yada yada etc.

[Aidannadia]

Can you name one thing Ivanka has actually influenced her father on?

Um, the Syria strikes in April?

Ivanka Trump influenced my father to launch Syria strikes, reveals brother Eric

Yes, the largely useless strike that served only to get Trump a rise in the polls for... what 3 days?

[Clintonburge]

Um, the Syria strikes in April?

Ivanka Trump influenced my father to launch Syria strikes, reveals brother Eric

Yes, the largely useless strike that served only to get Trump a rise in the polls for... what 3 days?

The fact that Ivanka can sway her "daddy" to launch missiles on another country is pretty fucking influential.

[Aidannadia]

If you think Bannon isn't still able to influence Trump through backchannels, mutual friends, and political allies in order to further push their vision, you're being a little naïve.

If you think Bannon has as much influence from whatever basement he currently inhabits as he had from the literal fucking White House then yada yada etc.

Bannon put Trump in the White House with a shitty propaganda website.

The fact that Ivanka can sway her "daddy" to launch missiles on another country is pretty fucking influential.

Your preoccupation with the fact that something exploded misses the fact that almost nothing came of it. It takes no political capital to pull a stunt like that, and had every projected advantage in the short run, other than kinda bothering some of his base whom got over it rather quickly. I don't find that particularly exceptional or influential.

[Cannot think of a name]

The fact that Ivanka can sway her "daddy" to launch missiles on another country is pretty fucking influential.

Your preoccupation with the fact that something exploded misses the fact that almost nothing came of it. It takes no political capital to pull a stunt like that, and had every projected advantage in the short run, other than kinda bothering some of his base whom got over it rather quickly. I don't find that particularly exceptional or influential.

How effective the action was or was not was not part of the question.

[Aidannadia]

Your preoccupation with the fact that something exploded misses the fact that almost nothing came of it. It takes no political capital to pull a stunt like that, and had every projected advantage in the short run, other than kinda bothering some of his base whom got over it rather quickly. I don't find that particularly exceptional or influential.

How effective the action was or was not was not part of the question.

The fact that it didn't hurt the Syrian government other than taking a few hours to fill some holes absolutely is part of the equation that says whether or not Trump does this. Secondly, this is something popular with nearly everyone else in the administration. The only downside was that it snubbed his base, which dismissed it as a peace offering to the establishment and blindly went along with their leader's decision.

[Clintonburge]

The fact that Ivanka can sway her "daddy" to launch missiles on another country is pretty fucking influential.

Your preoccupation with the fact that something exploded misses the fact that almost nothing came of it. It takes no political capital to pull a stunt like that, and had every projected advantage in the short run, other than kinda bothering some of his base whom got over it rather quickly. I don't find that particularly exceptional or influential.

The influence is on Trump and his decision making process, not on the outcome of the chosen action. What matters is if Ivanka can cause Trump to make a decision, the outcome of that decision is irrelevant.

[Clintonburge]

Can you name one thing Ivanka has actually influenced her father on?

Also, I've already answered your question in my above posts.

[Gauthier]

Your preoccupation with the fact that something exploded misses the fact that almost nothing came of it. It takes no political capital to pull a stunt like that, and had every projected advantage in the short run, other than kinda bothering some of his base whom got over it rather quickly. I don't find that particularly exceptional or influential.

The influence is on Trump and his decision making process, not on the outcome of the chosen action. What matters is if Ivanka can cause Trump to make a decision, the outcome of that decision is irrelevant.

"Daddy, can we bomb North Korea with my designer shoes and jewelry?"

[Aidannadia]

Your preoccupation with the fact that something exploded misses the fact that almost nothing came of it. It takes no political capital to pull a stunt like that, and had every projected advantage in the short run, other than kinda bothering some of his base whom got over it rather quickly. I don't find that particularly exceptional or influential.

The influence is on Trump and his decision making process, not on the outcome of the chosen action. What matters is if Ivanka can cause Trump to make a decision, the outcome of that decision is irrelevant.

The projected outcome of an action goes into effect when you decide to do something. Pointing out an obvious move that was being forced by every side, regardless of whether Ivanka wanted it or not, still is not influential in the slightest. Ivanka didn't need to be a part of the equation for the strike to happen, and I definitely don't need to here Eric's take on it considering all that buffoon's been through.

[Corrian]

So how much do you think Democrats will try to take advantage of the fact that Trump seems to semi want to work with them because it "Makes him look good"?

[Clintonburge]

So how much do you think Democrats will try to take advantage of the fact that Trump seems to semi want to work with them because it "Makes him look good"?

If it doesn't lead to the Republicans impeaching him, I don't know what will.

[Aidannadia]

So how much do you think Democrats will try to take advantage of the fact that Trump seems to semi want to work with them because it "Makes him look good"?

Timing lines up with Sander's medicare plan, but that'll die so nothing good'll come of that.

Perhaps infrastructure/budgetary squabbles.

[AiliailiA]

The influence is on Trump and his decision making process, not on the outcome of the chosen action. What matters is if Ivanka can cause Trump to make a decision, the outcome of that decision is irrelevant.

The projected outcome of an action goes into effect when you decide to do something. Pointing out an obvious move that was being forced by every side, regardless of whether Ivanka wanted it or not, still is not influential in the slightest. Ivanka didn't need to be a part of the equation for the strike to happen, and I definitely don't need to here Eric's take on it considering all that buffoon's been through.

"I don't need to [hear] Eric's take on it ..."

Does this mean you refused to even read the source claiming Ivanka influenced Donald?

I doubt Bannon has more influence with Trump than Ivanka or Jared, who also may have pressured Bannon to leave.

Can you name one thing Ivanka has actually influenced her father on?

The answer to your question is Yes. Move on.

[Corrian]

So how much do you think Democrats will try to take advantage of the fact that Trump seems to semi want to work with them because it "Makes him look good"?

Timing lines up with Sander's medicare plan, but that'll die so nothing good'll come of that.

Perhaps infrastructure/budgetary squabbles.

In before Trump endorses the medicare plan and Republicans heads explode.

[Gauthier]

Timing lines up with Sander's medicare plan, but that'll die so nothing good'll come of that.

Perhaps infrastructure/budgetary squabbles.

In before Trump endorses the medicare plan and Republicans heads explode.

If it gets people clapping like battery powered monkeys with cymbals, Trump'll do it.

[Aidannadia]

In before Trump endorses the medicare plan and Republicans heads explode.

Supposedly, there is 'something in the works' to 'fix' Obamacare. Don't know if that's saving face without any actual progress being made, or just deflecting.

If it landed on Trump's desk, I bet he would sign it.

[Clintonburge]

Timing lines up with Sander's medicare plan, but that'll die so nothing good'll come of that.

Perhaps infrastructure/budgetary squabbles.

In before Trump endorses the medicare plan and Republicans heads explode.

Trump would literally be "cucking" the Republicans and the alt-right.