Trump MAGAthread IX: Korea, The Dreamers and Trump

[Steffan]

Bannon orders Breitbart to step up negative coverage of Trump-backed candidate Luther Strange

http://money.cnn.com/2017/09/19/media/b ... index.html


Only good thing outta this presidency: a Republican party too divided to do anything

[Northern Davincia]

NYT: Trump Administration Rejects Study Showing Positive Impact of Refugees

Can't have stuff disagreeing with the REFUGEES BAD narrative after all.

Why bother in bringing them in anyway? Let it be Europe's or Canada's problem.

[The of Japan]

Bannon orders Breitbart to step up negative coverage of Trump-backed candidate Luther Strange

http://money.cnn.com/2017/09/19/media/b ... index.html


Only good thing outta this presidency: a Republican party too divided to do anything

breitbart is hardly a major influence in Republican party

[Vassenor]

NYT: Trump Administration Rejects Study Showing Positive Impact of Refugees

Can't have stuff disagreeing with the REFUGEES BAD narrative after all.

Why bother in bringing them in anyway? Let it be Europe's or Canada's problem.

Yes, let Europe or Canada get the $200 billion they paid into the economy.

[New haven america]

NYT: Trump Administration Rejects Study Showing Positive Impact of Refugees

Can't have stuff disagreeing with the REFUGEES BAD narrative after all.

Why bother in bringing them in anyway? Let it be Europe's or Canada's problem.

For someone who claims to love capitalism, you are very bad at it.

[Holy Tedalonia]

If immigrants bring in that much cash, then there's a issue with the people living there.

[Salus Maior]

What about Vietnam?

Sweatshops and authoritarianism aren't measures of success.

Au contraire. Authoritarian nations have known loads of success throughout history.

[The of Japan]

If immigrants bring in that much cash, then there's a issue with the people living there.

legal immigrants are good

[Gauthier]

What about Vietnam?

Sweatshops and authoritarianism aren't measures of success.

From the side that mooned on about Pinochet Chile.

[The of Japan]

Sweatshops and authoritarianism aren't measures of success.

From the side that mooned on about Pinochet Chile.

what do you mean by that? not all people who you think are "right wing" support authoriatarianism, let alone pinochet

[Steffan]

Bannon orders Breitbart to step up negative coverage of Trump-backed candidate Luther Strange

http://money.cnn.com/2017/09/19/media/b ... index.html


Only good thing outta this presidency: a Republican party too divided to do anything

breitbart is hardly a major influence in Republican party

It's a major influence with Trump's lot, most of whom are Republicans or conservatives in general. They're at odds with each other even if they don't admit it.

[Zanera]

National Monument news

Some people look at these things and all they see are stale dollar signs.

[The of Japan]

breitbart is hardly a major influence in Republican party

It's a major influence with Trump's lot, most of whom are Republicans or conservatives in general. They're at odds with each other even if they don't admit it.

conservatives in general arent that far right, and most republicans are not as far right as conservatives.

[Gauthier]

From the side that mooned on about Pinochet Chile.

what do you mean by that? not all people who you think are "right wing" support authoriatarianism, let alone pinochet

Pinochet was unmistakably authoritarian but he tends to be lauded by right wingers as an economic success that saved Chile from communism.

[Holy Tedalonia]

What I'm saying is they have their choices. If they want to be conservative anti-healthcare culture fine. It's their problem, but don't enforce policies that work against that culture. It causes much discontent and might cause an event like the Spanish civil war which sides pushed their tolerance to the very brink and it exploded into a war.

Cultures are not static, and those that seek to be will become maladaptive due to the dynamic nature of the world. Therefore, cultures that become maladaptive must alter their practices to remove those practices which are unsuited to the current conditions said culture faces.

True, but as I said still needs to be agreeable. As the culture adapts so does the government, but you can't force a culture's hand to quickly or you need to hurry.

What I'm saying is they have their choices. If they want to be conservative anti-healthcare culture fine. It's their problem, but don't enforce policies that work against that culture. It causes much discontent and might cause an event like the Spanish civil war which sides pushed their tolerance to the very brink and it exploded into a war.[

Maybe I don't give a shit about the Conservative Culture as many Conservative ideas, like Healthcare being a privilege rather than what truly is, a God given right, had proven to be more bad than good? I want healthcare to be adequate and affordable to everyone and there is no debate around it, because I want my own healthcare to be adequate and affordable.

Sure, but make sure your country isn't mainly conservative, because you can't change a fascist to suddenly become conservative, or a communist to a fascist. The Spanish civil war is proof that pushing ideals to quickly can cause huge and devasting wars.

[The of Japan]

what do you mean by that? not all people who you think are "right wing" support authoriatarianism, let alone pinochet

Pinochet was unmistakably authoritarian but he tends to be lauded by right wingers as an economic success that saved Chile from communism.

which right wingers? breitbart and infowars?

[Holy Tedalonia]

If immigrants bring in that much cash, then there's a issue with the people living there.

legal immigrants are good

True, they're fine with me. What I'm saying is if the immigrants are doing better than the people initially living in said country, then that's a bad sign.

[Community Values]

Page 11-14 for the methods and limitations of the study, 21-24 for the demographics represented plus their income in the study.
I'm not saying that it disproves the study or anything, but it certainly gives insight. I'm not sure how different the study would be if it accounted for a refugee's whole life, but I'm assuming it would cost a bit more. It's also interesting to note (and kind of obvious) that refugees who live here for longer amounts, in the 10+ years, make more money, and was pretty close to average American median income.

[Community Values]

what do you mean by that? not all people who you think are "right wing" support authoriatarianism, let alone pinochet

Pinochet was unmistakably authoritarian but he tends to be lauded by right wingers as an economic success that saved Chile from communism.

You mean alt-right "libertarians" and Hoppeans. The average right winger doesn't even know who Pinochet was, much less America's involvement in Chile.

[The of Japan]

Pinochet was unmistakably authoritarian but he tends to be lauded by right wingers as an economic success that saved Chile from communism.

You mean alt-right "libertarians" and Hoppeans. The average right winger doesn't even know who Pinochet was, much less America's involvement in Chile.

what do you mean by ""libertarians""?

[The East Marches II]

Pinochet was unmistakably authoritarian but he tends to be lauded by right wingers as an economic success that saved Chile from communism.

You mean alt-right "libertarians" and Hoppeans. The average right winger doesn't even know who Pinochet was, much less America's involvement in Chile.

"Libertarians"

Left-entryists you mean :^)

[The of Japan]

You mean alt-right "libertarians" and Hoppeans. The average right winger doesn't even know who Pinochet was, much less America's involvement in Chile.

"Libertarians"

Left-entryists you mean :^)

i came to semi-libertarian semi-conservative from the right actually.

[Community Values]

You mean alt-right "libertarians" and Hoppeans. The average right winger doesn't even know who Pinochet was, much less America's involvement in Chile.

what do you mean by ""libertarians""?

Maybe one of them can explain it themselves, but I don't think supporting Pinochet, a violent dictator who threw political dissidents out of helicopters, is very libertarian. By extension, those who unironically support a violent dictator who threw political dissidents out of helicopters are not libertarian. Hence, "libertarians"

[Zakuvia]

what do you mean by ""libertarians""?

Maybe one of them can explain it themselves, but I don't think supporting Pinochet, a violent dictator who threw political dissidents out of helicopters, is very libertarian. By extension, those who unironically support a violent dictator who threw political dissidents out of helicopters are not libertarian. Hence, "libertarians"

You'll find a great amount of them support people who historically were violent towards socialists. Take a look at just about any right-wing/alt-right website and see how glowingly they speak of giving leftists 'free helicopter rides'. It's sickening. Hell, I accidentally reposted a 'helicopter ride' image with Pinochet in it when Castro died, because I had no idea who the guy in the Generalissimo outfit was.

[Kramania]

Trump: *Trashes socialism in a room full of countries where socialism works*


[Pauses for applause]


UN: Oh...uh...*clap* *clap*

"Where socialism works"

Name one.