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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:19 pm

Clintonburge wrote:Why do the threads fill up so quickly? Is it Trump controversy and debates?

Most likely.
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Postby Frenequesta » Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:21 pm

Clintonburge wrote:Why do the threads fill up so quickly? Is it Trump controversy and debates?

If there's one silver lining to Trump's presidency, it's that his handling of the office has made people less politically apathetic. Unfortunately, not necessarily with the right focus.
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Postby Clintonburge » Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:21 pm

It sad looking at far right T_D and news sites like Breitbart that are bashing undocumented children who have come into the country at no fault of their own. I wish we had a more compassionate government. Hopefully Canada will take these children if Congress doesn't act.

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Postby Clintonburge » Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:22 pm

Frenequesta wrote:
Clintonburge wrote:Why do the threads fill up so quickly? Is it Trump controversy and debates?

If there's one silver lining to Trump's presidency, it's that his handling of the office has made people less politically apathetic. Unfortunately, not necessarily with the right focus.


I don't know about that mate. Got any sources/statistics?

Many people are not happy with the current political process that gave us two bad choices.

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Postby Gauthier » Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:24 pm

Clintonburge wrote:It sad looking at far right T_D and news sites like Breitbart that are bashing undocumented children who have come into the country at no fault of their own. I wish we had a more compassionate government. Hopefully Canada will take these children if Congress doesn't act.

Wait until the economy gets kicked in the crotch from the mass deportations.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:26 pm

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Clintonburge wrote:It sad looking at far right T_D and news sites like Breitbart that are bashing undocumented children who have come into the country at no fault of their own. I wish we had a more compassionate government. Hopefully Canada will take these children if Congress doesn't act.

Wait until the economy gets kicked in the crotch from the mass deportations.


But Trump said all America's problems would be fixed if all the immigrants were removed.
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Postby Frenequesta » Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:27 pm

Clintonburge wrote:
Frenequesta wrote:If there's one silver lining to Trump's presidency, it's that his handling of the office has made people less politically apathetic. Unfortunately, not necessarily with the right focus.


I don't know about that mate. Got any sources/statistics?

Many people are not happy with the current political process that gave us two bad choices.

Well, people only post here when they care about the current situation, no? And not being happy with the system does not mean that one doesn't care what it brings about.
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Postby Clintonburge » Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:31 pm

Just heard an argument outside my window:

One woman told another woman to go back to her country, then the woman replied that she was born here and then an argument broke out. Wow, Trump is really hitting close to home.

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Postby Gauthier » Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:32 pm

Clintonburge wrote:Just heard an argument outside my window:

One woman told another woman to go back to her country, then the woman replied that she was born here and then an argument broke out. Wow, Trump is really hitting close to home.

If you're dark skinned you're automatically a foreigner, duh.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:33 pm

Clintonburge wrote:It sad looking at far right T_D and news sites like Breitbart that are bashing undocumented children who have come into the country at no fault of their own. I wish we had a more compassionate government. Hopefully Canada will take these children if Congress doesn't act.

What makes you think these people will have a choice as to where they're going, if they're deported? They go back to the country their parents came from. That they've never lived there makes no difference.
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Postby Clintonburge » Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:37 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Clintonburge wrote:It sad looking at far right T_D and news sites like Breitbart that are bashing undocumented children who have come into the country at no fault of their own. I wish we had a more compassionate government. Hopefully Canada will take these children if Congress doesn't act.

What makes you think these people will have a choice as to where they're going, if they're deported? They go back to the country their parents came from. That they've never lived there makes no difference.


Of course they don't have a choice, especially with Trump's hard line immigration policies in place. I'm saying that its not compassionate and is against the embracing of immigrants that America, as a nation, does.

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Postby Gauthier » Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:37 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Clintonburge wrote:It sad looking at far right T_D and news sites like Breitbart that are bashing undocumented children who have come into the country at no fault of their own. I wish we had a more compassionate government. Hopefully Canada will take these children if Congress doesn't act.

What makes you think these people will have a choice as to where they're going, if they're deported? They go back to the country their parents came from. That they've never lived there makes no difference.

Born in East L.A. on a massive scale and much less funny.
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Postby Kekistonia » Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:41 pm

People seem confused. This isn't about immigrants, children, compassion, or hatred. This is about rescinding an unconstitutional overreach of executive power that granted 800,000 foreign nationals living on American soil exemption from American law. It doesn't matter who violates it, or what you think of it, the law must be upheld.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:42 pm

Kekistonia wrote:People seem confused. This isn't about immigrants, children, compassion, or hatred. This is about rescinding an unconstitutional overreach of executive power that granted 800,000 foreign nationals living on American soil exemption from American law. It doesn't matter who violates it, or what you think of it, the law must be upheld.


So what makes it unconstitutional?
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Postby Clintonburge » Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:42 pm

Kekistonia wrote:People seem confused. This isn't about immigrants, children, compassion, or hatred. This is about rescinding an unconstitutional overreach of executive power that granted 800,000 foreign nationals living on American soil exemption from American law. It doesn't matter who violates it, or what you think of it, the law must be upheld.


Unconstitutional like Trump's Muslim ban done by Executive Order?

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Postby Neutraligon » Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:44 pm

About the North Korea thing, given the Trump businesses outsource, likely to China, I very much doubt he will stop allowing trade with China.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:45 pm

Neutraligon wrote:About the North Korea thing, given the Trump businesses outsource, likely to China, I very much doubt he will stop allowing trade with China.


Dude just won a court case to allow him to trademark his name over there. He ain't gonna do shit to them.
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Postby Clintonburge » Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:45 pm

Neutraligon wrote:About the North Korea thing, given the Trump businesses outsource, likely to China, I very much doubt he will stop allowing trade with China.


Oh yea, has Trump forgotten that most of his products are made in China? How can he ban trade with them?

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Postby Neutraligon » Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:47 pm

Clintonburge wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:About the North Korea thing, given the Trump businesses outsource, likely to China, I very much doubt he will stop allowing trade with China.


Oh yea, has Trump forgotten that most of his products are made in China? How can he ban trade with them?

He won't. For once we can be grateful that Trump has the...personality...he has.
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Postby Kekistonia » Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:47 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Kekistonia wrote:People seem confused. This isn't about immigrants, children, compassion, or hatred. This is about rescinding an unconstitutional overreach of executive power that granted 800,000 foreign nationals living on American soil exemption from American law. It doesn't matter who violates it, or what you think of it, the law must be upheld.



So what makes it unconstitutional?


It directly flies in the face of immigration laws already passed by congress.
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Postby Zanera » Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:48 pm

Clintonburge wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:What makes you think these people will have a choice as to where they're going, if they're deported? They go back to the country their parents came from. That they've never lived there makes no difference.


Of course they don't have a choice, especially with Trump's hard line immigration policies in place. I'm saying that its not compassionate and is against the embracing of immigrants that America, as a nation, does.

"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore, Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" - Statue of Liberty


Considering how long there has been dislike towards certain immigrant groups over the course of America's history, I am surprised we have that message.

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Postby Neutraligon » Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:48 pm

Kekistonia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:

So what makes it unconstitutional?


It directly flies in the face of immigration laws already passed by congress.

That doesn't make what he did unconstitutional. The president has the right to direct the resources of the various government agencies. That means if he tell people to focus on criminals instead of those brought over as children, he is in no way breaking any law.
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Postby Kekistonia » Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:49 pm

Clintonburge wrote:
Kekistonia wrote:People seem confused. This isn't about immigrants, children, compassion, or hatred. This is about rescinding an unconstitutional overreach of executive power that granted 800,000 foreign nationals living on American soil exemption from American law. It doesn't matter who violates it, or what you think of it, the law must be upheld.


Unconstitutional like Trump's Muslim ban done by Executive Order?


That was upheld by the Supreme Court. DACA was not.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:51 pm

Kekistonia wrote:
Clintonburge wrote:
Unconstitutional like Trump's Muslim ban done by Executive Order?


That was upheld by the Supreme Court. DACA was not.


Ergo any law not brought before the Supreme Court is de facto unconstitutional?
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