Trump MAGAthread IX: Korea, The Dreamers and Trump

[Internationalist Bastard]

Anyone else listening to Sessions hearing?

[Vassenor]

Anyone else listening to Sessions hearing?

What're the highlights so far?

[Internationalist Bastard]

Anyone else listening to Sessions hearing?

What're the highlights so far?

Nothing much, it's just started. He has yet to answer a qustion about Title seven revocation on lgbt, he's focusing on violent crime. I'll keep posts

[Internationalist Bastard]

He just said we don't need warrants for illegal immigrants

[Vassenor]

He just said we don't need warrants for illegal immigrants

That's Fifth Amendment binned then?

[The Empire of Pretantia]

He just said we don't need warrants for illegal immigrants

That's Fifth Amendment binned then?

Fourth.

[Vassenor]

That's Fifth Amendment binned then?

Fourth.

Fifth is the one about not being detained without due process. The implication from what I read was that this was arrest warrants rather than search.

[Internationalist Bastard]

He just said warrents, at least what I heard

[Internationalist Bastard]

He's really not answering anything

[Dread Lady Nathicana]

There comes a point where so help me, I can't help but wish the earth itself would revolt against the very step of our near-entire government upon it, open up a great yawning chasm, and swallow them up entirely, thus ridding itself and us of their continued troublesome existence so we can just start the hell over. >_o

Yeah, ok. Sick to death of the corruption, the lies, the spin, the absolute bullshit, and self-serving actions of the lot of them - Republican, Democrat, whatever - don't care. This current batch has me to the point of near spitting nails, so help me. Every day, we see some other absolute awfulness come out of DC, some stupid tweet, some idiotic statement, some goram ridiculous bill or measure proposed ... and god help me, its wearing me down. Just makes me tired reading it all now and then, you know? Like 'Look, didn't want this to begin with, and now - ye gods - its even worse than I'd feared, and I feel like I can't do a thing about it'.

Make any sense at all? Can't remember the last time I was quite this riled, save for being right pissed off about Clinton pressuring people to lie for him concerning his extracurricular activities in his office etc. (No, didn't care about the sex, cared about the pressure to lie to cover his ass.) And even that doesn't measure up to this current fiasco.

Not just me, is it?

[Salus Maior]

There comes a point where so help me, I can't help but wish the earth itself would revolt against the very step of our near-entire government upon it, open up a great yawning chasm, and swallow them up entirely, thus ridding itself and us of their continued troublesome existence so we can just start the hell over. >_o

Yeah, ok. Sick to death of the corruption, the lies, the spin, the absolute bullshit, and self-serving actions of the lot of them - Republican, Democrat, whatever - don't care. This current batch has me to the point of near spitting nails, so help me. Every day, we see some other absolute awfulness come out of DC, some stupid tweet, some idiotic statement, some goram ridiculous bill or measure proposed ... and god help me, its wearing me down. Just makes me tired reading it all now and then, you know? Like 'Look, didn't want this to begin with, and now - ye gods - its even worse than I'd feared, and I feel like I can't do a thing about it'.

Make any sense at all? Can't remember the last time I was quite this riled, save for being right pissed off about Clinton pressuring people to lie for him concerning his extracurricular activities in his office etc. (No, didn't care about the sex, cared about the pressure to lie to cover his ass.) And even that doesn't measure up to this current fiasco.

Not just me, is it?

Nope, not just you.

[Hittanryan]

There comes a point where so help me, I can't help but wish the earth itself would revolt against the very step of our near-entire government upon it, open up a great yawning chasm, and swallow them up entirely, thus ridding itself and us of their continued troublesome existence so we can just start the hell over. >_o

Yeah, ok. Sick to death of the corruption, the lies, the spin, the absolute bullshit, and self-serving actions of the lot of them - Republican, Democrat, whatever - don't care. This current batch has me to the point of near spitting nails, so help me. Every day, we see some other absolute awfulness come out of DC, some stupid tweet, some idiotic statement, some goram ridiculous bill or measure proposed ... and god help me, its wearing me down. Just makes me tired reading it all now and then, you know? Like 'Look, didn't want this to begin with, and now - ye gods - its even worse than I'd feared, and I feel like I can't do a thing about it'.

Make any sense at all? Can't remember the last time I was quite this riled, save for being right pissed off about Clinton pressuring people to lie for him concerning his extracurricular activities in his office etc. (No, didn't care about the sex, cared about the pressure to lie to cover his ass.) And even that doesn't measure up to this current fiasco.

Not just me, is it?

And yet Trump claimed he had the answers to all of it. He would drain the swamp. Drain the swamp my ass.

[Dread Lady Nathicana]

And yet Trump claimed he had the answers to all of it. He would drain the swamp. Drain the swamp my ass.

I still cannot fathom how people believed this. Good lord, folks - he's been a damn dirty businessman for as long as I can remember, and I have never liked him based on that fact. He's always been a big-talking hot shot so and so who's only interested in himself.

That said, campaign promises ... when are people going to learn, ffs? All the politicians pull this crap. Which is why we need to vote them all out, and stop voting in more of the same. High time we started representing ourselves - regular folks, with a healthy dose of common sense. And no big business special interest etc groups owning our votes.

Grr, argh. >_<

[Hittanryan]

Finland
New Zealand
Australia
Spain
France
Canada
Poland
Hungary
UK
Ireland

All of them have at least some form of healthcare that is free, at point of access, to any citizen in their country.

Indeed, but guess what else? They're all overwhelmingly White nations, which America isn't anymore; you pass UHC today, and you're not going to be able to fund it going forward.

Guess what else? Healthcare costs are less in nations with universal healthcare. A lot less. How much less? Americans spend double what they do for terrible access. How much less? Medicare and Medicaid wouldn't need nearly as much funding to cover the costs of healthcare if we didn't have this dogshit privatized system driving up costs.

[Hittanryan]

And yet Trump claimed he had the answers to all of it. He would drain the swamp. Drain the swamp my ass.

I still cannot fathom how people believed this. Good lord, folks - he's been a damn dirty businessman for as long as I can remember, and I have never liked him based on that fact. He's always been a big-talking hot shot so and so who's only interested in himself.

That said, campaign promises ... when are people going to learn, ffs? All the politicians pull this crap. Which is why we need to vote them all out, and stop voting in more of the same. High time we started representing ourselves - regular folks, with a healthy dose of common sense. And no big business special interest etc groups owning our votes.

Grr, argh. >_<

Trump is a con artist doing what he's always done. The trouble is that he had more expected of him in the Oval Office than simply continuing to be a con artist.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Fourth.

Fifth is the one about not being detained without due process. The implication from what I read was that this was arrest warrants rather than search.

It's more a fourth amendment issue, since it deals with police powers, not the powers to punish and detain. It's a 'seizure' of a person without a warrant, and thus falls under the fourth amendment.

There comes a point where so help me, I can't help but wish the earth itself would revolt against the very step of our near-entire government upon it, open up a great yawning chasm, and swallow them up entirely, thus ridding itself and us of their continued troublesome existence so we can just start the hell over. >_o

Yeah, ok. Sick to death of the corruption, the lies, the spin, the absolute bullshit, and self-serving actions of the lot of them - Republican, Democrat, whatever - don't care. This current batch has me to the point of near spitting nails, so help me. Every day, we see some other absolute awfulness come out of DC, some stupid tweet, some idiotic statement, some goram ridiculous bill or measure proposed ... and god help me, its wearing me down. Just makes me tired reading it all now and then, you know? Like 'Look, didn't want this to begin with, and now - ye gods - its even worse than I'd feared, and I feel like I can't do a thing about it'.

Make any sense at all? Can't remember the last time I was quite this riled, save for being right pissed off about Clinton pressuring people to lie for him concerning his extracurricular activities in his office etc. (No, didn't care about the sex, cared about the pressure to lie to cover his ass.) And even that doesn't measure up to this current fiasco.

Not just me, is it?

I'm an ardent follower of the rule of law and legality. Revolutions aren't really my thing: an armed group can, with enough speed and precision, impose their undemocratic will on an entire government just because they have access either to resources or weapons. Revolutions are nasty, brutish things.

However, even I don't see how the American situation can get any better without either a coup or a revolt. The constitution has gridlocked itself into a two-party system. A system that is never going to change for the better by itself. The US constitution has reached a dead end in my opinion. Even if the next elected president is a democrat, you will still have the bullshit lack of bipartisan effort, fuelled by a political system more aimed at scoring points with their own base than actually making the country a better place.

The US needs a parliamentary democracy. And I see no other way to achieve that than through some action of the masses, whether or not they storm the stairs of Congress.

[Dread Lady Nathicana]

I'm an ardent follower of the rule of law and legality. Revolutions aren't really my thing: an armed group can, with enough speed and precision, impose their undemocratic will on an entire government just because they have access either to resources or weapons. Revolutions are nasty, brutish things.

However, even I don't see how the American situation can get any better without either a coup or a revolt. The constitution has gridlocked itself into a two-party system. A system that is never going to change for the better by itself. The US constitution has reached a dead end in my opinion. Even if the next elected president is a democrat, you will still have the bullshit lack of bipartisan effort, fuelled by a political system more aimed at scoring points with their own base than actually making the country a better place.

The US needs a parliamentary democracy. And I see no other way to achieve that than through some action of the masses, whether or not they storm the stairs of Congress.

Well we certainly need something at this point. Don't like the idea of a violent overthrow all the same, nor a violent group imposing their will on the rest either ... but this two party bs is a crock, hands down. Just two sides of the same dirty coin. Really think we're in need of some serious reform, and the powers that be will never allow for any of it. Not in their best interests, after all. We need to get the government to consider the best interests of the nation and citizens over their own.

[Gauthier]

And yet Trump claimed he had the answers to all of it. He would drain the swamp. Drain the swamp my ass.

I still cannot fathom how people believed this. Good lord, folks - he's been a damn dirty businessman for as long as I can remember, and I have never liked him based on that fact. He's always been a big-talking hot shot so and so who's only interested in himself.

That said, campaign promises ... when are people going to learn, ffs? All the politicians pull this crap. Which is why we need to vote them all out, and stop voting in more of the same. High time we started representing ourselves - regular folks, with a healthy dose of common sense. And no big business special interest etc groups owning our votes.

Grr, argh. >_<

It's called Desperation With A Generous Dose Of Wanting To Flip Off Obama And Clinton. Potent and addictive, like opioids.

[Post War America]

And yet Trump claimed he had the answers to all of it. He would drain the swamp. Drain the swamp my ass.

I still cannot fathom how people believed this. Good lord, folks - he's been a damn dirty businessman for as long as I can remember, and I have never liked him based on that fact. He's always been a big-talking hot shot so and so who's only interested in himself.

That said, campaign promises ... when are people going to learn, ffs? All the politicians pull this crap. Which is why we need to vote them all out, and stop voting in more of the same. High time we started representing ourselves - regular folks, with a healthy dose of common sense. And no big business special interest etc groups owning our votes.

Grr, argh. >_<

As much as I'd like to see that (kind of) myself, I doubt it'll happen. Our populace is too disengaged with society to actually meaningfully govern itself, which is likely why we now have such a deeply entrenched political class that governs the way it has for at least my lifetime.

[The Flutterlands]

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There comes a point where so help me, I can't help but wish the earth itself would revolt against the very step of our near-entire government upon it, open up a great yawning chasm, and swallow them up entirely, thus ridding itself and us of their continued troublesome existence so we can just start the hell over. >_o

Yeah, ok. Sick to death of the corruption, the lies, the spin, the absolute bullshit, and self-serving actions of the lot of them - Republican, Democrat, whatever - don't care. This current batch has me to the point of near spitting nails, so help me. Every day, we see some other absolute awfulness come out of DC, some stupid tweet, some idiotic statement, some goram ridiculous bill or measure proposed ... and god help me, its wearing me down. Just makes me tired reading it all now and then, you know? Like 'Look, didn't want this to begin with, and now - ye gods - its even worse than I'd feared, and I feel like I can't do a thing about it'.

Make any sense at all? Can't remember the last time I was quite this riled, save for being right pissed off about Clinton pressuring people to lie for him concerning his extracurricular activities in his office etc. (No, didn't care about the sex, cared about the pressure to lie to cover his ass.) And even that doesn't measure up to this current fiasco.

Not just me, is it?

I'm an ardent follower of the rule of law and legality. Revolutions aren't really my thing: an armed group can, with enough speed and precision, impose their undemocratic will on an entire government just because they have access either to resources or weapons. Revolutions are nasty, brutish things.

However, even I don't see how the American situation can get any better without either a coup or a revolt. The constitution has gridlocked itself into a two-party system. A system that is never going to change for the better by itself. The US constitution has reached a dead end in my opinion. Even if the next elected president is a democrat, you will still have the bullshit lack of bipartisan effort, fuelled by a political system more aimed at scoring points with their own base than actually making the country a better place.

The US needs a parliamentary democracy. And I see no other way to achieve that than through some action of the masses, whether or not they storm the stairs of Congress.

Ah-Ha! So im not alone here with my ever growing desire to just call for a mass right to storm Washington and overthrow our corrupt leaders. Scott Pruitt, Ajit Pai, Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell would be on my hit list.

[Galloism]

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I'm an ardent follower of the rule of law and legality. Revolutions aren't really my thing: an armed group can, with enough speed and precision, impose their undemocratic will on an entire government just because they have access either to resources or weapons. Revolutions are nasty, brutish things.

However, even I don't see how the American situation can get any better without either a coup or a revolt. The constitution has gridlocked itself into a two-party system. A system that is never going to change for the better by itself. The US constitution has reached a dead end in my opinion. Even if the next elected president is a democrat, you will still have the bullshit lack of bipartisan effort, fuelled by a political system more aimed at scoring points with their own base than actually making the country a better place.

The US needs a parliamentary democracy. And I see no other way to achieve that than through some action of the masses, whether or not they storm the stairs of Congress.

Ah-Ha! So im not alone here with my ever growing desire to just call for a mass right to storm Washington and overthrow our corrupt leaders. Scott Pruitt, Ajit Pai, Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell would be on my hit list.

No.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Anybody up for popcorn?

[The Flutterlands]

Ah-Ha! So im not alone here with my ever growing desire to just call for a mass right to storm Washington and overthrow our corrupt leaders. Scott Pruitt, Ajit Pai, Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell would be on my hit list.

No.

Why not? They want to destroy the environment, gut healthcare and take away the free and open internet and all to increase the power of Corporate Overlords! If that doesn't make you want to just tear down the whole system and start over then you just dont seem to care enough.

[Proctopeo]

No.

Why not? They want to destroy the environment, gut healthcare and take away the free and open internet and all to increase the power of Corporate Overlords! If that doesn't make you want to just tear down the whole system and start over then you just dont seem to care enough.

I panic about important things, like the shape of the Earth.

[Ifreann]

No.

Why not? They want to destroy the environment, gut healthcare and take away the free and open internet and all to increase the power of Corporate Overlords! If that doesn't make you want to just tear down the whole system and start over then you just dont seem to care enough.

Maybe when you get your shit under control you'll be able to realise that there can be change other than violent revolution.