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Postby The East Marches II » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:40 pm

Senkaku wrote:I should post this in the RWDT just so there's zero doubt


N-no y-you shouldn't.

Senkaku wrote:Eh, they did it in a war on their own soil when they were down on the equipment side of things. Chinese and Russians did the same, it's how it goes.

Wahhabis, on the other hand, like throwing lots and lots of rocks at the hornet's nest that is the West, and as a hornet, I do not appreciate this.


Who do think funds the Deo-Bandis in Afghanistan, it isn't the Saudis, the Iranians. I much prefer the Wahhabi to whatever comes out of Iran so long as the Ayatollahs are incharge.

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Postby Galloism » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:40 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Galloism wrote:I was making fun of Illinois' master necromancer, Mayor Daley.

I feel like he deserves a more menacing title than "master necromancer." Perhaps "Lord of the Sith"?

"Darth Daley was a lord of the Sith so powerful and so wise..." :p

NO! My title dammit!
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Postby Senkaku » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:42 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Senkaku wrote:I should post this in the RWDT just so there's zero doubt


N-no y-you shouldn't.

Acknowledge the error of your nationalist ways and embrace the one true church of globalism, and I shall spare you.
Senkaku wrote:Eh, they did it in a war on their own soil when they were down on the equipment side of things. Chinese and Russians did the same, it's how it goes.

Wahhabis, on the other hand, like throwing lots and lots of rocks at the hornet's nest that is the West, and as a hornet, I do not appreciate this.


Who do think funds the Deo-Bandis in Afghanistan, it isn't the Saudis, the Iranians. I much prefer the Wahhabi to whatever comes out of Iran so long as the Ayatollahs are incharge.

At least Afghanistan is actually somewhere where it kinda makes sense for them to be involved, seeing as it's right next to them. The Iranians do do things semi-rationally and have a semi-functional society. Whereas the Wahhabis are fond of blowing shit up a continent or two away for the sole purpose of ticking off white people and don't let half the population drive or do anything w/o daddy/big brother/uncle/husband/son/hot cousin's permission.
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Postby Senkaku » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:42 pm

Galloism wrote:
Senkaku wrote:I feel like he deserves a more menacing title than "master necromancer." Perhaps "Lord of the Sith"?

"Darth Daley was a lord of the Sith so powerful and so wise..." :p

NO! My title dammit!

I thought you would be the Vader to Daley's Plagueis in this? :p
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Postby The East Marches II » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:44 pm

Senkaku wrote:Acknowledge the error of your nationalist ways and embrace the one true church of globalism, and I shall spare you.


I would sooner die. Ataturk did nothing wrong, the Armenians, Greeks and Assyrians are just sore losers. You can post that in the RWDT!


Senkaku wrote:At least Afghanistan is actually somewhere where it kinda makes sense for them to be involved, seeing as it's right next to them. Whereas the Wahhabis are fond of blowing shit up a continent or two away for the sole purpose of ticking off white people.


Its less damaging and easy to stop you don't let them in the first place :^)

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Postby Senkaku » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:46 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Senkaku wrote:Acknowledge the error of your nationalist ways and embrace the one true church of globalism, and I shall spare you.


I would sooner die. Ataturk did nothing wrong, the Armenians, Greeks and Assyrians are just sore losers. You can post that in the RWDT!

Very well. On your head be it, heretic.


Senkaku wrote:At least Afghanistan is actually somewhere where it kinda makes sense for them to be involved, seeing as it's right next to them. Whereas the Wahhabis are fond of blowing shit up a continent or two away for the sole purpose of ticking off white people.


Its less damaging and easy to stop you don't let them in the first place :^)

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Postby Salus Maior » Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:24 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Senkaku wrote:Oh is that what they call the homosexuals down there?
>implying Jim is a billionaire

The man is a Satanist gun nut who regularly posts on NSG. If that's not a hint idk what is :p

It’s okay, we’ll just hire 4chan to find him.

> Inb4 realizing five seconds later that would be a terrible idea.


He's easy enough to find.

He's in the Guns thread like he always is :P
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Postby Salandriagado » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:18 am

Oil exporting People wrote:
Maineiacs wrote:In what way?


Because we simply won't be able to pay for it, given the composition of our current population.


Except that, you know, there's every reason for it to cost less than the current system.
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Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

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Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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Postby Salandriagado » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:19 am

Oil exporting People wrote:
Post War America wrote:
Finland
New Zealand
Australia
Spain
France
Canada
Poland
Hungary
UK
Ireland

All of them have at least some form of healthcare that is free, at point of access, to any citizen in their country.


Indeed, but guess what else? They're all overwhelmingly White nations, which America isn't anymore; you pass UHC today, and you're not going to be able to fund it going forward.


Skin colour has nothing to do with... anything at all, actually.
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Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

Vilatania wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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Postby Gauthier » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:19 am

Salandriagado wrote:
Oil exporting People wrote:
Because we simply won't be able to pay for it, given the composition of our current population.


Except that, you know, there's every reason for it to cost less than the current system.

Other than the country especially as of now worshipping corporate profits as sacrosanct.
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Postby Salandriagado » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:21 am

Oil exporting People wrote:
Senkaku wrote:What exactly does race have to do with this lmao


You're not going to be able to pay for the system, given the way demographics are shaping up.


Your racism is showing, dear. Your little attempts to sneak the general assumption that black people are inherently inferior into the debate aren't slipping under the radar.
Cosara wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

Vilatania wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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Postby Gauthier » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:22 am

Salandriagado wrote:
Oil exporting People wrote:
You're not going to be able to pay for the system, given the way demographics are shaping up.


Your racism is showing, dear. Your little attempts to sneak the general assumption that black people are inherently inferior into the debate aren't slipping under the radar.

If that was anywhere near true you'd swear the country would be a bit below first world status.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
Where is your God-Emperor now?

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Postby Salandriagado » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:24 am

Oil exporting People wrote:
Senkaku wrote:So if we have fewer white people as a percentage of a larger population, and they've acquired even more money, single payer is somehow invalidated.

Frankly, it seems like you either didn't read your own sources or don't understand their analysis, and are instead just subscribing to racist memes about minorities being leeches and assuming "well if there's more of 'them' there'll be less for 'us'!!!"


No, it appears you didn't bother to read it or think on it.

If 75% of taxes is being paid by ~60% of the population, and said population is projected to decline to just 40% of the population......well, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out how that is going to work.


Evidently it does, however, take someone who has thought about it more than you have. As a hint: when said population declines, so will the percentage of taxes that they pay, while the percentage paid by other segments will increase. White people don't magically have money, and black people aren't inevitably poor.

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Senkaku wrote:No, they're just replacing us and deleting our money while asking for handouts!!!1


Is his data wrong on the tax burden though? More poor people breeding or being let in is not conducive to your goals of a welfare state.


Yes it is, providing their net economic productivity is positive (which it generally is).
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Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

Vilatania wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]


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Postby Gauthier » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:34 am


Trump is after all the same sociopathic manbaby who talked trash about a Gold Star family as well as a former POW, not to mention bragged about how avoiding STDs while cruising for pussy was his own Vietnam after getting a deferment from real life Vietnam with a "bone spur".
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
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Postby Lady Scylla » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:54 am

Oil exporting People wrote:
Post War America wrote:
Finland
New Zealand
Australia
Spain
France
Canada
Poland
Hungary
UK
Ireland

All of them have at least some form of healthcare that is free, at point of access, to any citizen in their country.


Indeed, but guess what else? They're all overwhelmingly White nations, which America isn't anymore; you pass UHC today, and you're not going to be able to fund it going forward.


I've read some pretty stupid things, but that one has completely dumbfounded me.

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Postby Gauthier » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:57 am

Lady Scylla wrote:
Oil exporting People wrote:
Indeed, but guess what else? They're all overwhelmingly White nations, which America isn't anymore; you pass UHC today, and you're not going to be able to fund it going forward.


I've read some pretty stupid things, but that one has completely dumbfounded me.

You have to read it with the mindset of "darkies are too lazy and stupid to make money legitimately as opposed to spending it."
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
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If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:11 am

So none of you are aware that Republicans are trying to open up an Alaskin Wildlife Refuge for more drilling through sneaky and cowardly reconciliation procedures?

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/10/17/poli ... index.html

And fuck you Scott Pruitt. He's the sort of person who needs to be dragged out into the streets for not doing his job.
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Postby Gauthier » Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:17 am

The Flutterlands wrote:So none of you are aware that Republicans are trying to open up an Alaskin Wildlife Refuge for more drilling through sneaky and cowardly reconciliation procedures?

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/10/17/poli ... index.html

And fuck you Scott Pruitt. He's the sort of person who needs to be dragged out into the streets for not doing his job.

You probably shouldn't worry as much as under normal circumstances. The Republicans were so used to being the No Party that when they finally seized power they couldn't wield it to any significant effect. Three times in full control they tried to destroy their biggest hateboner which is Obamacare and three times they failed. Besides, Trump specifically picked morons to head agencies they want destroyed or at best don't give a shit about and it's like a hurricane to weather. Plus unlike actual hurricanes no need to endure Trump throwing paper towels like Marie Antoinette at a bake sale.
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If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:24 am

Gauthier wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:So none of you are aware that Republicans are trying to open up an Alaskin Wildlife Refuge for more drilling through sneaky and cowardly reconciliation procedures?

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/10/17/poli ... index.html

And fuck you Scott Pruitt. He's the sort of person who needs to be dragged out into the streets for not doing his job.

You probably shouldn't worry as much as under normal circumstances. The Republicans were so used to being the No Party that when they finally seized power they couldn't wield it to any significant effect. Three times in full control they tried to destroy their biggest hateboner which is Obamacare and three times they failed. Besides, Trump specifically picked morons to head agencies they want destroyed or at best don't give a shit about and it's like a hurricane to weather. Plus unlike actual hurricanes no need to endure Trump throwing paper towels like Marie Antoinette at a bake sale.

Still, we should be banning reconciliation for such harmful purposes like taking healthcare away or destroying wildlife. I think that maybe democracy should be restricted to helping people instead of such godawful policies. I know it's a dumb belief, but taking healthcare away or opening up wildlife refuge for corporate greed shouldn't be allowed to be voted on and just banned.
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Postby Corrian » Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:26 am

Ryan Zinke is also trying to waver another wildlife refuge so they can build a road straight through it.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:31 am

Corrian wrote:Ryan Zinke is also trying to waver another wildlife refuge so they can build a road straight through it.

Again, should be banned. Harmful democracy such as this should be not be allowed.
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Postby Post War America » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:27 am

Oil exporting People wrote:
Post War America wrote:
Finland
New Zealand
Australia
Spain
France
Canada
Poland
Hungary
UK
Ireland

All of them have at least some form of healthcare that is free, at point of access, to any citizen in their country.


Indeed, but guess what else? They're all overwhelmingly White nations, which America isn't anymore; you pass UHC today, and you're not going to be able to fund it going forward.


Of all the factors that go into the successful public healthcare system, you chose the worst one. Whiteness had little to do with my choosing the list and the only reason I've listed mostly European countries is very possibly as a result of my lack information regarding other systems.

Further I do believe you'd find that our lack of a welfare state has more to do with an unwillingness to fund anything other than the military and the police state than because there are more nonwhite people than white people.
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Postby Valrifell » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:40 am

The Flutterlands wrote:
Corrian wrote:Ryan Zinke is also trying to waver another wildlife refuge so they can build a road straight through it.

Again, should be banned. Harmful democracy such as this should be not be allowed.


Harmful democracy is subjective, this sounds way too authoritarian for my liking.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:47 am

Valrifell wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:Again, should be banned. Harmful democracy such as this should be not be allowed.


Harmful democracy is subjective, this sounds way too authoritarian for my liking.

Mph. Well, maybe climate change polices should be authoritarian. We are talking about not just the environment, but human existence being at stake. I don't think it should be something to waste time debating on while the clock is ticking
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