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Postby MERIZoC » Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:20 pm

Corrian wrote:Trump also said that no past President has called families of fallen soldiers. Or, specifically Obama anyway.

lol he still hasn't said "Niger"

There's no way the pronunciation isn't the reason they've had him not talk about it. That's gotta be it.

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Postby Corrian » Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:55 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Corrian wrote:Trump also said that no past President has called families of fallen soldiers. Or, specifically Obama anyway.

...And sports people are supposedly the ones disrespecting the troops.


Basically he's too busy bitching about Hilary to talk about the Green Berets who died in Nigeria.

I mean, a friend of mine did say, unless it is a special case, that you don't usually talk about them.

But of course Trump tries and screws that up.

And it is Niger, not Nigeria. Because apparently we're damn everywhere.
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Postby Hittanryan » Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:00 pm

Corrian wrote:Trump On GOP Failures: 'I'm Not Going To Blame Myself, I'll Be Honest'

Yes, because the leader of the country shouldn't be blamed for his own party members or anything. The "Expert negotiator"

Truman's "The buck stops here" has been replaced with Bart Simpson's "I didn't do it."

If someone else does something good, he takes credit for it. If he screws up, he didn't do it or "never said that."
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Postby Corrian » Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:02 pm

Hittanryan wrote:
Corrian wrote:Trump On GOP Failures: 'I'm Not Going To Blame Myself, I'll Be Honest'

Yes, because the leader of the country shouldn't be blamed for his own party members or anything. The "Expert negotiator"

Truman's "The buck stops here" has been replaced with Bart Simpson's "I didn't do it."

If someone else does something good, he takes credit for it. If he screws up, he didn't do it or "never said that."

Remember the economy was fake stats until he was in office, and immediately everything was a-okay.
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Postby Senkaku » Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:11 pm

Corrian wrote:
And it is Niger, not Nigeria. Because apparently we're damn everywhere.

...Niger is literally directly next to Nigeria, and Boko Haram has been active there as well?
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Postby Zanera » Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:18 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Corrian wrote:
And it is Niger, not Nigeria. Because apparently we're damn everywhere.

...Niger is literally directly next to Nigeria, and Boko Haram has been active there as well?


Can at least keep the country where they died right.

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Postby AiliailiA » Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:14 pm

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Saiwania wrote:http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/355551-pro-trump-states-most-impacted-by-health-care-subsidy-cuts-report

So with up to 4 million people maybe losing health insurance because of the subsidies discontinuing, do you think these same people will turn against Donald Trump and all Republicans by 2020 or even in 2018?

It is plain to see for me anyways, that the Democrats have the ability to win big, but their leadership doesn't know what the hell they're doing- so they won't. Quit with the bs about Russia and take up the platform of leftist populism. Outline all of the failures of Republican policy and deliver on doing things better than the GOP can or will in terms of governing.

Again, we may actually need a revolution to bring actual change. The elites who actually run the system won't have it any other way. They will only give up their power when we prive it from their cold dead hands.


No, NOT again. Talking about killing Congress people is NOT an acceptable way for you to vent your frustration with them.

Just fucking stop it.
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Postby Camicon » Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:19 pm

AiliailiA wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:Again, we may actually need a revolution to bring actual change. The elites who actually run the system won't have it any other way. They will only give up their power when we prive it from their cold dead hands.


No, NOT again. Talking about killing Congress people is NOT an acceptable way for you to vent your frustration with them.

Just fucking stop it.

At what point does continually voicing support for a violent revolution cross the line?

Serious question here, Moderators. At what point does repeatedly saying "violent revolution? Why not? Seems like the only way. Great idea" violate the rules?
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Postby Zanera » Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:23 pm

Camicon wrote:
AiliailiA wrote:
No, NOT again. Talking about killing Congress people is NOT an acceptable way for you to vent your frustration with them.

Just fucking stop it.

At what point does continually voicing support for a violent revolution cross the line?

Serious question here, Moderators. At what point does repeatedly saying "violent revolution? Why not? Seems like the only way. Great idea" violate the rules?


Explicitly calling for death I'd guess.

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:27 pm

Saiwania wrote:http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/355551-pro-trump-states-most-impacted-by-health-care-subsidy-cuts-report

So with up to 4 million people maybe losing health insurance because of the subsidies discontinuing, do you think these same people will turn against Donald Trump and all Republicans by 2020 or even in 2018?

It is plain to see for me anyways, that the Democrats have the ability to win big, but their leadership doesn't know what the hell they're doing- so they won't. Quit with the bs about Russia and take up the platform of leftist populism. Outline all of the failures of Republican policy and deliver on doing things better than the GOP can or will in terms of governing.

4 million illegals, problem solved.
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Postby AiliailiA » Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:37 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Saiwania wrote:http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/355551-pro-trump-states-most-impacted-by-health-care-subsidy-cuts-report

So with up to 4 million people maybe losing health insurance because of the subsidies discontinuing, do you think these same people will turn against Donald Trump and all Republicans by 2020 or even in 2018?

It is plain to see for me anyways, that the Democrats have the ability to win big, but their leadership doesn't know what the hell they're doing- so they won't. Quit with the bs about Russia and take up the platform of leftist populism. Outline all of the failures of Republican policy and deliver on doing things better than the GOP can or will in terms of governing.

4 million illegals, problem solved.


Not quite, you've got the illegals but you still have to make them vote Republican. How?

Voting machines in prison, problem solved.
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Postby AiliailiA » Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:44 pm

Zanera wrote:
Camicon wrote:At what point does continually voicing support for a violent revolution cross the line?

Serious question here, Moderators. At what point does repeatedly saying "violent revolution? Why not? Seems like the only way. Great idea" violate the rules?


Explicitly calling for death I'd guess.


Like "cold dead hands" ..?

Rereading it, that threat appears to apply to "elites" ... a bogeyman so vaguely defined that it's not the level of credible threat that (for instance) "Congress won't give up abusing their power until we prize it from their cold dead hands".

But still, I don't think there's a pass for political violence that the target of it is vaguely defined. Attaining political ends by political violence is not OK, not even dressing it in the righteous word "revolution" ... whoever the target is, seizing power from them by killing them is completely fucking illegal and there's no need to consider whether it's in some way righteous or more moral than the alternative, it's illegal so Flutterlands can't advocate it here.
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Postby Socialista Mozambique » Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:10 am

Guys, can we all agree that Trump is a genius?

By making Pence as his Vice President he basically has a shield against impeachment, because no one wants Pence as President.

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Socialista Mozambique wrote:Guys, can we all agree that Trump is a genius?

By making Pence as his Vice President he basically has a shield against impeachment, because no one wants Pence as President.

Unless they impeach the closet theocrat along with Trump, then it's "President Ryan", and not Jack Ryan either.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:24 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Socialista Mozambique wrote:Guys, can we all agree that Trump is a genius?

By making Pence as his Vice President he basically has a shield against impeachment, because no one wants Pence as President.

Unless they impeach the closet theocrat along with Trump, then it's "President Ryan", and not Jack Ryan either.

Andrew Ryan?
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:29 am

Socialista Mozambique wrote:Guys, can we all agree that Trump is a genius?

By making Pence as his Vice President he basically has a shield against impeachment, because no one wants Pence as President.

Obama did the same. No republican in their right mind wanted Biden president.

Trump isn't the first one to do this and he's not going to be the last. There have always been VPs that where only a VP because they stopped impeachment.
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Postby Telconi » Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:58 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Socialista Mozambique wrote:Guys, can we all agree that Trump is a genius?

By making Pence as his Vice President he basically has a shield against impeachment, because no one wants Pence as President.

Obama did the same. No republican in their right mind wanted Biden president.

Trump isn't the first one to do this and he's not going to be the last. There have always been VPs that where only a VP because they stopped impeachment.


VP is often times less moderate than President.

It serves a few purposes, shield from impeachment. Throwing a bone to the wing of the party represented by the VP, insurance against hung Senate votes, etc.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:05 am

Telconi wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Obama did the same. No republican in their right mind wanted Biden president.

Trump isn't the first one to do this and he's not going to be the last. There have always been VPs that where only a VP because they stopped impeachment.


VP is often times less moderate than President.

It serves a few purposes, shield from impeachment. Throwing a bone to the wing of the party represented by the VP, insurance against hung Senate votes, etc.

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Postby AiliailiA » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:01 am

FBI and CIA files about the JFK assassination are due to be released, in the next two weeks. The connection to Trump is that he's the only person legally able to block the release. I hope he doesn't.
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Postby Socialista Mozambique » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:06 am

AiliailiA wrote:FBI and CIA files about the JFK assassination are due to be released, in the next two weeks. The connection to Trump is that he's the only person legally able to block the release. I hope he doesn't.

Well this will be interesting. I'm not a conspiracy theorist myself, but I can't wait for the files to be released.

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:13 am

AiliailiA wrote:FBI and CIA files about the JFK assassination are due to be released, in the next two weeks. The connection to Trump is that he's the only person legally able to block the release. I hope he doesn't.

It took them that long to alter the files?
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Postby AiliailiA » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:54 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
AiliailiA wrote:FBI and CIA files about the JFK assassination are due to be released, in the next two weeks. The connection to Trump is that he's the only person legally able to block the release. I hope he doesn't.

It took them that long to alter the files?

Well Alpha Draconis is over three hundred light years away, it takes a while.
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Postby Dahon » Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:03 am

AiliailiA wrote:FBI and CIA files about the JFK assassination are due to be released, in the next two weeks. The connection to Trump is that he's the only person legally able to block the release. I hope he doesn't.


My money's on he cockblocks it, because why not?
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Postby AiliailiA » Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:25 am

Dahon wrote:
AiliailiA wrote:FBI and CIA files about the JFK assassination are due to be released, in the next two weeks. The connection to Trump is that he's the only person legally able to block the release. I hope he doesn't.


My money's on he cockblocks it, because why not?


“Americans deserve a full picture of what happened that fateful day in November 1963,” said Senator Charles Grassley of Iowa, the Judiciary Committee chairman, in announcing last week that he was sponsoring a Senate resolution calling for release of all the remaining documents. “The assassination of President Kennedy occurred at a pivotal time for our nation, and, nearly 54 years later, we are still learning the details of how our government responded and what it may have known beforehand.”


Chuck Grassley is why not.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:39 am

AiliailiA wrote:
Dahon wrote:
My money's on he cockblocks it, because why not?


“Americans deserve a full picture of what happened that fateful day in November 1963,” said Senator Charles Grassley of Iowa, the Judiciary Committee chairman, in announcing last week that he was sponsoring a Senate resolution calling for release of all the remaining documents. “The assassination of President Kennedy occurred at a pivotal time for our nation, and, nearly 54 years later, we are still learning the details of how our government responded and what it may have known beforehand.”


Chuck Grassley is why not.

How much ya wanna bet he's fucking with Trump?
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