Trump MAGAthread IX: Korea, The Dreamers and Trump

[Kramania]

Oh it's quite easy to terminate.

All the president has to do is say "you're fired".

Not true. For instance the president cannot fire someone for being Muslim.

If he isn't breaking the law by doing so then he can fire him. And if he randomly chooses to fire him for no reason then he can.

[The Rich Port]

Impeach him.

We can add "is a fool" to the reasons for impeachment.

You can't just impeach someone because you don't like them.

Sorry. If you could have then I would have impeached Obama.

Obama was a fool? In what way?

[Neutraligon]

Not true. For instance the president cannot fire someone for being Muslim.

Since when?

Since anti discrimination laws went into effect. Even the president falls within their purview. The president may be the head of the executive branch but he does not have unilateral power.

[Kramania]

The president is the executive branch. He can fire the FBI director any time he wants to for any reason. He can fire them because he doesn't like the color of their tie.

It's funny because people like you wanted him fired about 2 seconds before Trump fired him because he reopened the email investigation.

I still haven't figured out if it's deliberate dishonesty or if so many Trump supporters are just legitimately too dense to understand the concept that just because we may have wanted Comey fired for his behavior during the election doesn't make it hypocritical to question the timing and method of his firing.

Pro Tip: we don't actually care about Comey, we care about the President firing the Director of the FBI by surprise for the apparent reason that he refused to make investigations the President doesnt like go away.

I can criticize Trump's blatant attempts to shut down politically inconvenient investigations and simultaneously enjoy James Comey's humiliation and dismissal because he apparently never learned that you can't half-ass being a partisan hack in a position like that, it's all or nothing.

The evidence that Trump fired Comey to obstruct the investigation: none.

Thanks, come again!

[Neutraligon]

Not true. For instance the president cannot fire someone for being Muslim.

If he isn't breaking the law by doing so then he can fire him. And if he randomly chooses to fire him for no reason then he can.

I doubt that is the case given that federal employees have protections. now I am not certain if that pertains to cabinet or upper level positions.

[Neutraligon]

I still haven't figured out if it's deliberate dishonesty or if so many Trump supporters are just legitimately too dense to understand the concept that just because we may have wanted Comey fired for his behavior during the election doesn't make it hypocritical to question the timing and method of his firing.

Pro Tip: we don't actually care about Comey, we care about the President firing the Director of the FBI by surprise for the apparent reason that he refused to make investigations the President doesnt like go away.

I can criticize Trump's blatant attempts to shut down politically inconvenient investigations and simultaneously enjoy James Comey's humiliation and dismissal because he apparently never learned that you can't half-ass being a partisan hack in a position like that, it's all or nothing.

The evidence that Trump fired Comey to obstruct the investigation: none.

Thanks, come again!

That would be what is being investigated, among other things.

[Gauthier]

I still haven't figured out if it's deliberate dishonesty or if so many Trump supporters are just legitimately too dense to understand the concept that just because we may have wanted Comey fired for his behavior during the election doesn't make it hypocritical to question the timing and method of his firing.

Pro Tip: we don't actually care about Comey, we care about the President firing the Director of the FBI by surprise for the apparent reason that he refused to make investigations the President doesnt like go away.

I can criticize Trump's blatant attempts to shut down politically inconvenient investigations and simultaneously enjoy James Comey's humiliation and dismissal because he apparently never learned that you can't half-ass being a partisan hack in a position like that, it's all or nothing.

The evidence that Trump fired Comey to obstruct the investigation: none.

Thanks, come again!

Which is why Mueller's special prosecutor investigation is coming up with nothing instead of hiring lawyers who specialize in white collar crimes- oh wait.

Also...

Trump says he considered 'this Russia thing' before firing FBI Director Comey

[Vassenor]

Since when?

Since anti discrimination laws went into effect. Even the president falls within their purview. The president may be the head of the executive branch but he does not have unilateral power.

What are you talking about? Obama was clearly a dictator wielding unlimited unilateral power.

[Thermodolia]

I still haven't figured out if it's deliberate dishonesty or if so many Trump supporters are just legitimately too dense to understand the concept that just because we may have wanted Comey fired for his behavior during the election doesn't make it hypocritical to question the timing and method of his firing.

Pro Tip: we don't actually care about Comey, we care about the President firing the Director of the FBI by surprise for the apparent reason that he refused to make investigations the President doesnt like go away.

I can criticize Trump's blatant attempts to shut down politically inconvenient investigations and simultaneously enjoy James Comey's humiliation and dismissal because he apparently never learned that you can't half-ass being a partisan hack in a position like that, it's all or nothing.

The evidence that Trump fired Comey to obstruct the investigation: none.

Thanks, come again!

As of yet. Also we have no evidence that it's not the case. It's kinda why there's an investigation, which doesn't mean that Trump is guilty or innocent.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Oh it's quite easy to terminate.

All the president has to do is say "you're fired".

Not true. For instance the president cannot fire someone for being Muslim.

Actually, he can.

[Thermodolia]

The evidence that Trump fired Comey to obstruct the investigation: none.

Thanks, come again!

Which is why Mueller's special prosecutor investigation is coming up with nothing instead of hiring lawyers who specialize in white collar crimes- oh wait.

White collar crimes =/= obstruction of justice

[Seangoli]

I still haven't figured out if it's deliberate dishonesty or if so many Trump supporters are just legitimately too dense to understand the concept that just because we may have wanted Comey fired for his behavior during the election doesn't make it hypocritical to question the timing and method of his firing.

Pro Tip: we don't actually care about Comey, we care about the President firing the Director of the FBI by surprise for the apparent reason that he refused to make investigations the President doesnt like go away.

I can criticize Trump's blatant attempts to shut down politically inconvenient investigations and simultaneously enjoy James Comey's humiliation and dismissal because he apparently never learned that you can't half-ass being a partisan hack in a position like that, it's all or nothing.

The evidence that Trump fired Comey to obstruct the investigation: none.

Thanks, come again!

Well, it's not like Trump is on tape in a public interview stating that he fired Comey because Comey was investigating Russian ties to his campaign. No, no, that would surely not be the case.

[Neutraligon]

Not true. For instance the president cannot fire someone for being Muslim.

Actually, he can.

At the lower levels no he cannot. Federal anti discrimination laws still hold for the federal government.

[Gauthier]

The evidence that Trump fired Comey to obstruct the investigation: none.

Thanks, come again!

Well, it's not like Trump is on tape in a public interview stating that he fired Comey because Comey wouldn't end the investigation involving Russian ties to his campaign.

Tape is not Lester Holt.

[Thermodolia]

Actually, he can.

At the lower levels no he cannot. Federal anti discrimination laws still hold for the federal government.

The director of the FBI is not a lower level federal employee

[Kramania]

Actually, he can.

At the lower levels no he cannot. Federal anti discrimination laws still hold for the federal government.

The FBI Director is not the lower levels.

[Kramania]

The evidence that Trump fired Comey to obstruct the investigation: none.

Thanks, come again!

Well, it's not like Trump is on tape in a public interview stating that he fired Comey because Comey was investigating Russian ties to his campaign. No, no, that would surely not be the case.

He said that was the sole reason he fired Comey, eh?

[Neutraligon]

At the lower levels no he cannot. Federal anti discrimination laws still hold for the federal government.

The director of the FBI is not a lower level federal employee

true but I am pretty sure anti discrimination laws still apply to top level officials. The president of the us is not above the la. They just don't hace the additional protections those lower down have.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Actually, he can.

At the lower levels no he cannot. Federal anti discrimination laws still hold for the federal government.

The FBI director is a position that works by appointment and confirmation, but it works with the firing system of "at the pleasure of the president", meaning Trump doesn't need to give a reason why he's firing the current sitting director, he just has to say the word.

[Cannot think of a name]

Well, it's not like Trump is on tape in a public interview stating that he fired Comey because Comey was investigating Russian ties to his campaign. No, no, that would surely not be the case.

He said that was the sole reason he fired Comey, eh?

This part is relevant now?

[Neutraligon]

At the lower levels no he cannot. Federal anti discrimination laws still hold for the federal government.

The FBI director is a position that works by appointment and confirmation, but it works with the firing system of "at the pleasure of the president", meaning Trump doesn't need to give a reason why he's firing the current sitting director, he just has to say the word.

Like anyone else they can be fired without a word as to what. However if the president where stupid enough to say it was because they are Muslim, then the president would be breaking the law.

[Kramania]

He said that was the sole reason he fired Comey, eh?

This part is relevant now?

Do you actually debate or do you just do hit and run type stuff?

You're quite pathetic. Begone.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

The FBI director is a position that works by appointment and confirmation, but it works with the firing system of "at the pleasure of the president", meaning Trump doesn't need to give a reason why he's firing the current sitting director, he just has to say the word.

Like anyone else they can be fired without a word as to what. However if the president where stupid enough to say it was because they are Muslim, then the president would be breaking the law.

Sure, but your initial statement was "Not true", to Kramania saying that it was quite easy to terminate someone just by telling them they were fired.

He wasn't exactly talking about which times would it be legal and which times wouldn't. He just said it was quite easy, which is true.

[Cannot think of a name]

This part is relevant now?

Do you actually debate or do you just do hit and run type stuff?

You're quite pathetic. Begone.

I'm just trying to clarify your questions. I'm sorry this troubles you.

[Hittanryan]

I still haven't figured out if it's deliberate dishonesty or if so many Trump supporters are just legitimately too dense to understand the concept that just because we may have wanted Comey fired for his behavior during the election doesn't make it hypocritical to question the timing and method of his firing.

Pro Tip: we don't actually care about Comey, we care about the President firing the Director of the FBI by surprise for the apparent reason that he refused to make investigations the President doesnt like go away.

I can criticize Trump's blatant attempts to shut down politically inconvenient investigations and simultaneously enjoy James Comey's humiliation and dismissal because he apparently never learned that you can't half-ass being a partisan hack in a position like that, it's all or nothing.

The evidence that Trump fired Comey to obstruct the investigation: none.

Thanks, come again!

So you know better than the Special Counsel and the entire investigation? You know that Trump didn't do it? Why haven't you gone public?

This is why there is an investigation in the first place.