Trump MAGAthread IX: Korea, The Dreamers and Trump

[The Rich Port]

White House Rejects Supremacist Label: “No One Has Done More Than Trump to Prove White People Are Not Superior”

WASHINGTON —Upbraiding the ESPN anchor Jemele Hill for calling Donald Trump a “white supremacist,” the White House press secretary, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, said on Wednesday that “no one has done more than President Trump to prove that white people are not superior.”

“It’s grossly unfair that Ms. Hill sought to portray Donald Trump as an upholder of white supremacy, when everything he says or does directly undermines that whole concept,” Sanders said. “Anyone who thinks that Donald Trump is on some mission to make white people look good hasn’t been paying attention.”

Sanders urged the ESPN anchor to “do her homework” on Trump before making baseless allegations. “Read his tweets,” she said. “Listen to his speeches. If you still think Donald Trump is trying to prove that white people are superior, I tip my hat to you.”

Ending on a personal note, Sanders said that she was “a hundred-per-cent sure” that her boss is not a white supremacist. “Donald Trump cannot even spell the word ‘supremacist,’ ” she said.

Are you... Are you fucking serious with this shit.

Well... Seeing as how he just basically dismissed himself as incompetent, I guess we can't call him that anymore.

[Steffan]

White House Rejects Supremacist Label: “No One Has Done More Than Trump to Prove White People Are Not Superior”

WASHINGTON —Upbraiding the ESPN anchor Jemele Hill for calling Donald Trump a “white supremacist,” the White House press secretary, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, said on Wednesday that “no one has done more than President Trump to prove that white people are not superior.”

“It’s grossly unfair that Ms. Hill sought to portray Donald Trump as an upholder of white supremacy, when everything he says or does directly undermines that whole concept,” Sanders said. “Anyone who thinks that Donald Trump is on some mission to make white people look good hasn’t been paying attention.”

Sanders urged the ESPN anchor to “do her homework” on Trump before making baseless allegations. “Read his tweets,” she said. “Listen to his speeches. If you still think Donald Trump is trying to prove that white people are superior, I tip my hat to you.”

Ending on a personal note, Sanders said that she was “a hundred-per-cent sure” that her boss is not a white supremacist. “Donald Trump cannot even spell the word ‘supremacist,’ ” she said.

Omfg
That's the sort of thing I'd write in a fake tweet. But there it is: the real W.H, ladies and gents. The only W.H where the parodies write themselves

[The Rich Port]

White House Rejects Supremacist Label: “No One Has Done More Than Trump to Prove White People Are Not Superior”

Omfg
That's the sort of thing I'd write in a fake tweet. But there it is: the real W.H, ladies and gents. The only W.H where the parodies write themselves

Sad part is, it's an obvious attempt at trying to make Trump not look like a massive egotist and also to defuse the white supremacy situation.

Too bad they somehow fucked up something that should be so easy.

It's an automatic fuck up to begin with because it's not Trump saying this shit. He got his Secretary to say it for him because I guess he can't bring himself to self-deprecate.

[Gauthier]

Are you... Are you fucking serious with this shit.

Well... Seeing as how he just basically dismissed himself as incompetent, I guess we can't call him that anymore.

Omfg
That's the sort of thing I'd write in a fake tweet. But there it is: the real W.H, ladies and gents. The only W.H where the parodies write themselves

Address.

[Steffan]

Are you... Are you fucking serious with this shit.

Well... Seeing as how he just basically dismissed himself as incompetent, I guess we can't call him that anymore.

Omfg
That's the sort of thing I'd write in a fake tweet. But there it is: the real W.H, ladies and gents. The only W.H where the parodies write themselves

Address.

My address? 1600 Pennsylvania. Duh

[The Rich Port]

Are you... Are you fucking serious with this shit.

Well... Seeing as how he just basically dismissed himself as incompetent, I guess we can't call him that anymore.

Omfg
That's the sort of thing I'd write in a fake tweet. But there it is: the real W.H, ladies and gents. The only W.H where the parodies write themselves

Address.

Not so much the address as the fact it's the satire column...

OK I think I should go to bed.

[Galloism]

Address.

Not so much the address as the fact it's the satire column...

OK I think I should go to bed.

Gotta love the Trump admin, where you can post stuff like that and it sounds completely legit.

[Salandriagado]

So what is the evidence he's a plant beyond "well if you look at this through a hole in a paper bag under a blood moon"?

Philosophy doesn't require evidence in the way that you do.

Yes it fucking does.

[Camicon]

Philosophy doesn't require evidence in the way that you do.

Yes it fucking does.

It's not like you can provide tangible evidence to support a particular philosophy. It's all dependent on logical proofs and accepting the implicit assumptions they make.

If we could provide evidence the same way we can for the sciences there wouldn't be so many competing, and equally valid, philosophies.

[Ism]

Yes it fucking does.

It's not like you can provide tangible evidence to support a particular philosophy. It's all dependent on logical proofs and accepting the implicit assumptions they make.

If we could provide evidence the same way we can for the sciences there wouldn't be so many competing, and equally valid, philosophies.

Which is why there are no competing theories in science.

[Camicon]

It's not like you can provide tangible evidence to support a particular philosophy. It's all dependent on logical proofs and accepting the implicit assumptions they make.

If we could provide evidence the same way we can for the sciences there wouldn't be so many competing, and equally valid, philosophies.

Which is why there are no competing theories in science.

Did you miss the part where I said "equally valid"? For example, flat-Earther bullshit is not as equally valid as the generally accepted "the Earth is more or less a sphere, orbiting around the sun - or, rather, a point between the two that is still in the sun but not quite at it's centre" theory.

Science has competing theories, yeah, but only until the evidence proves things one way or another. Philosophy is assumptions on top of arguments on top of more assumptions.

[Mombombu]

DACA recipients:

Cannot vote
Must pay taxes
Must pay a fee every time they reapply for DACA status
Must be in education, employment, or military service
Are ineligible for most federal benefits including food stamps and Medicaid

What exactly is the argument against DACA beyond the racist "criminal invader" argument?

[The Rich Port]

So what is the evidence he's a plant beyond "well if you look at this through a hole in a paper bag under a blood moon"?

Philosophy doesn't require evidence in the way that you do.

Philosophy is from where the very concept of empiricism came from. Aristotle was it's main proponent at first, in contrast to the theories of Plato concerning logic.

The empiricism/rationalism schism is a much-debated topic in philosophy, not so much which is more important (though evidently arguments of theology are essentially that) but as to how to balance the two.

Science is essentially a mixture of both rationalism and empiricism. Hypotheses are rationalistic predictions and goals that are then proven and tested through empiricism, by testing and analyzing data in order to finally reach a conclusion.

[Kramania]

DACA recipients:

Cannot vote
Must pay taxes
Must pay a fee every time they reapply for DACA status
Must be in education, employment, or military service
Are ineligible for most federal benefits including food stamps and Medicaid

What exactly is the argument against DACA beyond the racist "criminal invader" argument?

That they are illegal immigrants who are in violation of US immigration law and have no right to be here, and that allowing them to stay only further incentivizes more illegal immigration.

[Corrian]

Make Lawyers Great Again

[Vassenor]

DACA recipients:

Cannot vote
Must pay taxes
Must pay a fee every time they reapply for DACA status
Must be in education, employment, or military service
Are ineligible for most federal benefits including food stamps and Medicaid

What exactly is the argument against DACA beyond the racist "criminal invader" argument?

That they are illegal immigrants who are in violation of US immigration law and have no right to be here, and that allowing them to stay only further incentivizes more illegal immigration.

So in other words there is no other argument against it.

[Sernarbia]

That they are illegal immigrants who are in violation of US immigration law and have no right to be here, and that allowing them to stay only further incentivizes more illegal immigration.

So in other words there is no other argument against it.

There is, its just that they're all racist.

[Mombombu]

What exactly is the argument against DACA beyond the racist "criminal invader" argument?

That they are illegal immigrants who are in violation of US immigration law and have no right to be here, and that allowing them to stay only further incentivizes more illegal immigration.

Ok, so it's just the racist "criminal invader" argument then.

[Kramania]

That they are illegal immigrants who are in violation of US immigration law and have no right to be here, and that allowing them to stay only further incentivizes more illegal immigration.

So in other words there is no other argument against it.

I guess if you want to disregard our immigration laws then there isn't.

[Kramania]

That they are illegal immigrants who are in violation of US immigration law and have no right to be here, and that allowing them to stay only further incentivizes more illegal immigration.

Ok, so it's just the racist "criminal invader" argument then.

"Illegal alien" is the term you're looking for.

[Northern Davincia]

DACA recipients:

Cannot vote
Must pay taxes
Must pay a fee every time they reapply for DACA status
Must be in education, employment, or military service
Are ineligible for most federal benefits including food stamps and Medicaid

What exactly is the argument against DACA beyond the racist "criminal invader" argument?

They should be ineligible for all federal benefits.

[Ism]

Which is why there are no competing theories in science.

Did you miss the part where I said "equally valid"? For example, flat-Earther bullshit is not as equally valid as the generally accepted "the Earth is more or less a sphere, orbiting around the sun - or, rather, a point between the two that is still in the sun but not quite at it's centre" theory.

Science has competing theories, yeah, but only until the evidence proves things one way or another. Philosophy is assumptions on top of arguments on top of more assumptions.

I did not miss that, my answer was intended to be taken within the context of that point. Science is largely based on assumption as well. There are some that are nearly completely accepted, but the very nature of science is that it's open to change based on new information. For many things, science has yet to settle on a consensus, and therefore there are multiple theories or at least hypotheses of similar validity proposed.

Yes, all these assumptions are based on facts, acquired and corroborated through experimentation and observation, but most philosophies incorporate facts and observations into themselves as well, they aren't just baseless claims. Philosophy is the pursuit of wisdom, much of it is the attempt to define and understand the reality we live in. To do this while ignoring facts, ignoring the information provided by that reality, is illogical and thus antithetical to the very nature of philosophy.

DACA recipients:

Cannot vote
Must pay taxes
Must pay a fee every time they reapply for DACA status
Must be in education, employment, or military service
Are ineligible for most federal benefits including food stamps and Medicaid

What exactly is the argument against DACA beyond the racist "criminal invader" argument?

They should be ineligible for all federal benefits.

Even though they pay for them?

[Mombombu]

DACA recipients:

Cannot vote
Must pay taxes
Must pay a fee every time they reapply for DACA status
Must be in education, employment, or military service
Are ineligible for most federal benefits including food stamps and Medicaid

What exactly is the argument against DACA beyond the racist "criminal invader" argument?

They should be ineligible for all federal benefits.

I'd agree with you if it weren't for the fact that they pay into them with their tax dollars.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

They should be ineligible for all federal benefits.

I'd agree with you if it weren't for the fact that they pay into them with their tax dollars.

No taxes then.

[Albul II]

DACA recipients:

Cannot vote
Must pay taxes
Must pay a fee every time they reapply for DACA status
Must be in education, employment, or military service
Are ineligible for most federal benefits including food stamps and Medicaid

What exactly is the argument against DACA beyond the racist "criminal invader" argument?

That they are illegal immigrants who are in violation of US immigration law and have no right to be here, and that allowing them to stay only further incentivizes more illegal immigration.

In violation of a law created by an already broken immigration system. What is the problem? Allowing them to stay does not incentivize immigration, since they had to come in before a certain date and if they came in after that date, then they are ineligible for DACA. So, I guess it promotes time travel if anything.