Possable revolution or rumor?

[KenKenpachi]

i dont believe that anything is happening in california, but what if?

California is home to some very liberal places: all of it.

Republicans have little hold in the state.

North CA and the office of the Govener would dissagree lulz.

But I haven't heard of this in CA, but I've seen reports that show rumblings starting up in other areas. Keep in mind no revolt happens the next day on anything. Hell how long after the civil war till someone shot old honest Abe?...No I would not expect any sort of "revolt" to start till months later, eitehr trigger by counter state legislation or a lone gunman, it then jumps up a notch with the Federal response and so on.

The war was effectively over, though not completely, when President Lincoln was assassinated on the night of April 14th (he died the next morning). Several battles were fought in April and the Confederacy wasn't completely defunct until May.

What do you expect, Obama sending troops to some state if that state's legislature passes a law saying, "Nuh-uh, you're not the boss of us, we're going to participate in this health care reform"? The Feds will take them to court, no doubt. Actually, since no place is wholly for or against this bill, I would expect some citizens of that state to do the suing.

Calm down.

Ah well point is no one seen him getting shot.

And Actully I do see them sending troops in. The thing is I don't see courts working, say a state goes, umm no. Then the courst go yes, yes, yes!. And they go "Umm this paper says we don't listen to you, so piss off.

[Farnhamia]

i dont believe that anything is happening in california, but what if?

California is home to some very liberal places: all of it.

Republicans have little hold in the state.

North CA and the office of the Govener would dissagree lulz.

But I haven't heard of this in CA, but I've seen reports that show rumblings starting up in other areas. Keep in mind no revolt happens the next day on anything. Hell how long after the civil war till someone shot old honest Abe?...No I would not expect any sort of "revolt" to start till months later, eitehr trigger by counter state legislation or a lone gunman, it then jumps up a notch with the Federal response and so on.

The war was effectively over, though not completely, when President Lincoln was assassinated on the night of April 14th (he died the next morning). Several battles were fought in April and the Confederacy wasn't completely defunct until May.

What do you expect, Obama sending troops to some state if that state's legislature passes a law saying, "Nuh-uh, you're not the boss of us, we're going to participate in this health care reform"? The Feds will take them to court, no doubt. Actually, since no place is wholly for or against this bill, I would expect some citizens of that state to do the suing.

Calm down.

Ah well point is no one seen him getting shot.

And Actully I do see them sending troops in. The thing is I don't see courts working, say a state goes, umm no. Then the courst go yes, yes, yes!. And they go "Umm this paper says we don't listen to you, so piss off.

And then the Supreme Court says yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, no, no, no, no (5 - 4 decision) and the state's AG's hold a press conference at which they wipe a crocodile tear from their eyes and then go home. Troops? What, to line people up and make them buy health insurance? Please.

[Risottia]

No, I am not handing out guns and ammo to anyone for the purposes to over throw the government.

I knew it wasn't you. You would be selling them, not handing them out for free!

[Corydonia (Ancient)]

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[Farnhamia]

Health care reform is not going to cause a revolution.

But I think a revolution of some kind is possible if immigration reform passes, since it would essentially mean Mexicans capturing the Southwest and continuing to spread out across the country.

However it would probably be a leaderless revolution because Americans no longer have confidence in any leader.

"Capturing the Southwest and continuing to spread out across the country"? What? Exactly how are they going to "capture the Southwest?

[The Floor Kippers]

Today is class i heard that in california someone was handing out guns and ammo to everyone to start a revolution. maybe this is just a rumor, but i know that President Oboma's health care plan has sterred up much heat with the republicans. So maybe it is true. Presonally i don't agree with the presidents views of socializing healthcare, but a lot of poeple think it is a great plan. What is the deal in california and what side would you take if this is true?

+ Head + wall = bang
Why do certain americans Not want something that could BENIFIT THIER NATION!
It makes no sense to this Brit!

[Corydonia (Ancient)]

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[The Glorious Tobias]

1. President Obama did not do or suggest anything close to socializing health care
2. There is not a group of people who oppose this bill that is large enough to mount a rebellion
3. The America hating teabaggers who are talking revolution are ignorant and hateful, but too tiny and insignificant of a group to be worried about

[KenKenpachi]

1. President Obama did not do or suggest anything close to socializing health care
2. There is not a group of people who oppose this bill that is large enough to mount a rebellion
3. The America hating teabaggers who are talking revolution are ignorant and hateful, but too tiny and insignificant of a group to be worried about

The least number I've seen is 15% in favor of rebeling. Thats out of 300 million people. So 45 Million people hardly a small number. Ironically I'ld bet NRA members would jump on it too, so thats like 96 million. Point is I don't think any of us really want to see a war, I just know as long as we got goverments who always go back and forth telling the other 50% to shut up and sit down, we won't have good relations, and somethings got to give sooner or later. An though it might not be Socialism, alot of people on news sites and forums are calling it that.

[New Kereptica]

The least number I've seen is 15% in favor of rebeling. Thats out of 300 million people. So 45 Million people hardly a small number. Ironically I'ld bet NRA members would jump on it too, so thats like 96 million. Point is I don't think any of us really want to see a war, I just know as long as we got goverments who always go back and forth telling the other 50% to shut up and sit down, we won't have good relations, and somethings got to give sooner or later. An though it might not be Socialism, alot of people on news sites and forums are calling it that.

It isn't socialism. That is a fact.

And you're assuming two things when you come up with that number: that the sets of NRA members and people in favor of rebelling are totally exclusive and that people who say that they are favor of rebelling would all actually take up arms against this country.

[KenKenpachi]

The least number I've seen is 15% in favor of rebeling. Thats out of 300 million people. So 45 Million people hardly a small number. Ironically I'ld bet NRA members would jump on it too, so thats like 96 million. Point is I don't think any of us really want to see a war, I just know as long as we got goverments who always go back and forth telling the other 50% to shut up and sit down, we won't have good relations, and somethings got to give sooner or later. An though it might not be Socialism, alot of people on news sites and forums are calling it that.

It isn't socialism. That is a fact.

And you're assuming two things when you come up with that number: that the sets of NRA members and people in favor of rebelling are totally exclusive and that people who say that they are favor of rebelling would all actually take up arms against this country.

The Army is over streatched, cops can't handle gangs, much less a full scale revolt, even if it were only a few Thousand or 5 million. And it doesn't matter if it is or isn't it all matters on what you say it is (by you I mean the people fighting). I mean I'm going to stop this, I fell like Tage on the Death Start going "the rebles are more of a threat than you realize." Hell I guess that makes you Motti, who gets to be Tarkin?

[New Manvir]

Health care reform is not going to cause a revolution.

But I think a revolution of some kind is possible if immigration reform passes, since it would essentially mean Mexicans capturing the Southwest and continuing to spread out across the country.

However it would probably be a leaderless revolution because Americans no longer have confidence in any leader.

"Capturing the Southwest and continuing to spread out across the country"? What? Exactly how are they going to "capture the Southwest?

They are capturing the Southwest using the demographic bomb. This is already happening. Whites are already a minority in California.

False. Demographics of California.

* 42.3% White (not including White Hispanic)
* 36.6% are Hispanic or Latino (of any race)
* 12.5% Asian
* 6.7% Black or African American
* 2.6% Multiracial
* 1.2% American Indian

They are devastating major cities. Just look at Los Angeles. Even Mexicans are telling me that parts of L.A. are "worse than Mexico City". The problem is that most of the Mexicans who are migrating to the U.S. are not exactly the cream of the crop in Mexico.

Their leaders are taking over political offices and then advancing the program of "La Raza". This is happening now. The leaders of this movement believe in the idea that the brown peoples are the "cosmic race" who will take over all of America one day. Whites will be absorbed or will go back to Europe. I've heard Mexicans here in the U.S. openly call for this.

Mexicans aren't just in the Southwest anymore. I am hearing from people from the Midwest, the South, and the East about growing numbers of Mexicans as well as other people from Latin America who are taking working-class jobs away from whites. Since high-tech jobs and other good white-collar jobs are being taken away by Indians, Chinese, and so on, what is left? This is the thinking of many white men.

Howard Dean referred to the Republicans as the "White Christian Party". Probably true at this point. He should realize that the White Christians are not going to fade quietly away. So there is a possibility for revolution. Remember what Gov. Perry of Texas said not too long ago about pulling out of the union.

Anyway I'm just trying to analyze the situation, I'm not a Republican or a Christian.

This is just bullshit xenophobic fear-mongering. Seriously, we minorities are not the Borg and we're not here to assimilate you. Most likely these Mexican immigrants will be almost completely Americanized by the third or fourth generation, if not the second generation (like me).

EDIT: Also, your views are nothing new. People have worried about the same shit every time a new immigrant group comes to the US.

[Andaluciae]

The dogs are looking at me like I lost my mind.

Nah, they're sad you can't be as happy as them, no matter how the irony may amuse.

[Post-Unity Terra]

Frankly, if a bunch of rednecks got together for a revolution, I'd wait about five minutes before checking the news to see how many of them got gunned down by police.

[Les Drapeaux Brulants]

Today is class i heard that in california someone was handing out guns and ammo to everyone to start a revolution. maybe this is just a rumor, but i know that President Oboma's health care plan has sterred up much heat with the republicans. So maybe it is true. Presonally i don't agree with the presidents views of socializing healthcare, but a lot of poeple think it is a great plan. What is the deal in california and what side would you take if this is true?

Wasn't this country founded by people that were tired of being taxed without representation? We certainly weren't represented by our government in this case and the taxes? Too much and all at the wrong time.

[Post-Unity Terra]

Today is class i heard that in california someone was handing out guns and ammo to everyone to start a revolution. maybe this is just a rumor, but i know that President Oboma's health care plan has sterred up much heat with the republicans. So maybe it is true. Presonally i don't agree with the presidents views of socializing healthcare, but a lot of poeple think it is a great plan. What is the deal in california and what side would you take if this is true?

Wasn't this country founded by people that were tired of being taxed without representation? We certainly weren't represented by our government in this case and the taxes? Too much and all at the wrong time.

Ask a conservative and it's never the right time for change.

[Fexia]

1. President Obama did not do or suggest anything close to socializing health care
2. There is not a group of people who oppose this bill that is large enough to mount a rebellion
3. The America hating teabaggers who are talking revolution are ignorant and hateful, but too tiny and insignificant of a group to be worried about

Yeah dude there is the republicans

[Fexia]

well the situation in california was not true, but like fourteen states are sueing the federal government. The government should not force people to buy health insurance and then fine them they need to make it affordable for everyone.
my political views are indepndent. im pretty sure a government that controlls buineess is somewhat socialist. the health care plan it sounds like a good idea but really its not. the democrates are spending cash on everything and lying to us about it.

[Les Drapeaux Brulants]

well the situation in california was not true, but like fourteen states are sueing the federal government. The government should not force people to buy health insurance and then fine them they need to make it affordable for everyone.
my political views are indepndent. im pretty sure a government that controlls buineess is somewhat socialist. the health care plan it sounds like a good idea but really its not. the democrates are spending cash on everything and lying to us about it.

I think I agree... The spelling really sucks. But, no, the government did nothing to prevent cost increases. All that happened was that the insurance companies were hit with a number of new taxes and regulations that they will have to pass on to customers, or quit the business. And that opens the door for single payer health care. Tell me the Democrats didn't plan that.

But the tanning tax? Where the hell did that come from?

[Fexia]

Americans don't have the guts to overthrow their government by force.

do you?

No. I'm an American.

Im an american and this guy is totally right we're a nation of sayers and no doers. sad

[Fexia]

well the situation in california was not true, but like fourteen states are sueing the federal government. The government should not force people to buy health insurance and then fine them they need to make it affordable for everyone.
my political views are indepndent. im pretty sure a government that controlls buineess is somewhat socialist. the health care plan it sounds like a good idea but really its not. the democrates are spending cash on everything and lying to us about it.

I think I agree... The spelling really sucks. But, no, the government did nothing to prevent cost increases. All that happened was that the insurance companies were hit with a number of new taxes and regulations that they will have to pass on to customers, or quit the business. And that opens the door for single payer health care. Tell me the Democrats didn't plan that.

But the tanning tax? Where the hell did that come from?

sorry my spelling sucks and i can't find the spell check.

[New Kereptica]

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[Parthenon]

If he pushes amnesty that might rile up the extremists, right now its just a talking point.

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[Post-Unity Terra]

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