Nazi Vote and Free Video Games Scenario

[Infected Mushroom]

Please consider the following hypothetical:

You can make the following binding magical deal.

You will get free video games for the rest of your life (ex New Battlefield came out? You can snap your fingers and get a free copy).

However, as a consequence, you will be obligated to, for the rest of your life, vote for the party in your political system that resembles the Nazis at all and any given point in time. The party might be a small almost non existent group or it could be a somewhat major political party, it just depends on what country you live in. Any time an election comes up, the electoral machine will magically consider it a Done Deal that you've already voted for the "Nazi" party. For the rest of your life you will be adding 1 vote to the far right wing... For many people, this means that your right to vote is gone.

Please note, the deal is being offered to You only.

Remember what we've all been trained to think. Remember people, the right to vote is sacred. The right to vote (every one person's vote) is essential to the functioning of democracy and for the sake of freedom. The Founding Fathers died (or at least had other people die) so that we can all cast a piece of paper every once in a while to decide which rich popular kid will rule the town. I am obligated to repeat this otherwise it wouldn't be a fair presentation of the scenario. Having said that...

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Do you accept or not accept the deal? Please explain your justification either way.

Absolutely. Free video games? Absolutely excellent deal. I could benefit from this on a daily basis.

One vote every year for the Nazis really won't do anything. However, I understand that many people would feel that their right to vote is sacred (even though statistics show that their one vote does nothing). My one vote cannot change anything, even though its advertised as sacred. So I gladly forsake it.

[Costa Fierro]

To be honest, if a system similar to the Nazis is in place, democracy wouldn't really exist.

[Sovaal]

So free material goods in exchange for betraying the very beliefs that make up my moral code.

Nah, CoD:WW2 is gonna be shit anyway, and I can always save up for future games such as The Last of Us 2

[Infected Mushroom]

To be honest, if a system similar to the Nazis is in place, democracy wouldn't really exist.

Perhaps. Do you see them being elected in your lifetime though?

[Costa Fierro]

To be honest, if a system similar to the Nazis is in place, democracy wouldn't really exist.

Perhaps. Do you see them being elected in your lifetime though?

Nope.

[San Lumen]

Please consider the following hypothetical:

You can make the following binding magical deal.

You will get free video games for the rest of your life (ex New Battlefield came out? You can snap your fingers and get a free copy).

However, as a consequence, you will be obligated to, for the rest of your life, vote for the party in your political system that resembles the Nazis at all and any given point in time. The party might be a small almost non existent group or it could be a somewhat major political party, it just depends on what country you live in. Any time an election comes up, the electoral machine will magically consider it a Done Deal that you've already voted for the "Nazi" party. For the rest of your life you will be adding 1 vote to the far right wing... For many people, this means that your right to vote is gone.

Remember what we've all been trained to think. Remember people, the right to vote is sacred. The right to vote (every one person's vote) is essential to the functioning of democracy and for the sake of freedom. The Founding Fathers died (or at least had other people die) so that we can all cast a piece of paper every once in a while to decide which rich popular kid will rule the town. I am obligated to repeat this otherwise it wouldn't be a fair presentation of the scenario. Having said that...

...

Do you accept or not accept the deal? Please explain your justification either way.

Absolutely. Free video games? Absolutely excellent deal. I could benefit from this on a daily basis.

One vote every year for the Nazis really won't do anything. However, I understand that many people would feel that their right to vote is sacred (even though statistics show that their one vote does nothing). My one vote cannot change anything, even though its advertised as sacred. So I gladly forsake it.

Hell freaking no. As a Jew I would never ever consider such a deal. Video games are far less important than automatically giving my vote to people who want to throw me in jail for being LGBT.

The right to vote is sacred and every vote matters but i know ill never convince you.

You'd rather have a dictatorship anyway and gladly see no elections and no freedom of speech, press, assembly or religion.

[Infected Mushroom]

So free material goods in exchange for betraying the very beliefs that make up my moral code.

Nah, CoD:WW2 is gonna be shit anyway, and I can always save up for future games such as The Last of Us 2

is it a betrayal of your beliefs though?

Or is it a personal sacrifice?

[Kash Island]

sure

but I would also then become politically active to change the party and it's ideals, removing the racism/homophobia etc etc and creating a new national socialist sub-type.

[Infected Mushroom]

sure

but I would also then become politically active to change the party and it's ideals, removing the racism/homophobia etc etc and creating a new national socialist sub-type.

Yes, that's allowed. You can try to do that.

[San Lumen]

sure

but I would also then become politically active to change the party and it's ideals, removing the racism/homophobia etc etc and creating a new national socialist sub-type.

Yes, that's allowed. You can try to do that.

and then hypothetical person disappears.

[Trollgaard]

No. I don't like Nazi's and I don't play many video games.

[Infected Mushroom]

Yes, that's allowed. You can try to do that.

and then hypothetical person disappears.

All I'm saying is.

If you want to try and keep both (by influencing said "Nazis" and then playing Throne Room games to try and make sure no other Nazi party arises), you're welcome to try. But I just don't know how realistic the plan is. If you had that kind of charisma/ability in the first place I'd think maybe you'd be so financially successful in the first place you'd have no interest in the deal at all...

[Empire of Narnia]

The Nazi party doesn't exist in my country and is probably illegal, so yes. I'd vote for the non-existent party that could never get into power anyways for free stuff. I'd just make up for it by donating to anti-fascist causes.

[Borovan4]

No. I don't play console video games. I'd rather vote a random celebrity.

[San Lumen]

and then hypothetical person disappears.

All I'm saying is.

If you want to try and keep both (by influencing said "Nazis" and then playing Throne Room games to try and make sure no other Nazi party arises), you're welcome to try. But I just don't know how realistic the plan is. If you had that kind of charisma/ability in the first place I'd think maybe you'd be so financially successful in the first place you'd have no interest in the deal at all...

I as a Jew and LGBT would have no interest and would tell the person presenting it "Bye Felicia" and rip up their paper.

Why do you hate elections, democracy and freedom so much? where does this liking of dictatorship come from?

[Oldenfranck]

This is stupid. Video games are not that expensive anyways, and I barely even play them.

[Zanera]

The games wouldn't really be free. They'd be worth a vote for a party of Nazis. And no, I would not accept that medium of exchange. Video games are not worth friggin' Nazis.

[Bombadil]

Absolutely. Free video games? Absolutely excellent deal. I could benefit from this on a daily basis.

One vote every year for the Nazis really won't do anything. However, I understand that many people would feel that their right to vote is sacred (even though statistics show that their one vote does nothing). My one vote cannot change anything, even though its advertised as sacred. So I gladly forsake it.

I assume you consider yourself above average intelligent, therefore you're accepting that there's many along with you who'd also do this deal even on the dumb assumption that it's just one vote..

..we know that 25% of any population is batshit insane on any given issue.. so one could extrapolate that there's probably 25% voting for this in any given population, which is handing a lot of power to a objectionable party, and that power is ad infinitum given you can't change per your hypothetical. One might argue they'd get more given there's batshit insane and then 'I get mine'.

You're basically saying I prefer Nazism to not getting free games.

I suspect that actually places you in the below average space on the spectrum but anyhoo.

[Sovaal]

So free material goods in exchange for betraying the very beliefs that make up my moral code.

Nah, CoD:WW2 is gonna be shit anyway, and I can always save up for future games such as The Last of Us 2

is it a betrayal of your beliefs though?

Or is it a personal sacrifice?

In what ways is it a personal sacrifice? Usually when people talk about personal sacrifice they are talking about sometime noble, such as family or ideals. Material goods tho? Nah.

[Infected Mushroom]

The games wouldn't really be free. They'd be worth a vote for a party of Nazis. And no, I would not accept that medium of exchange. Video games are not worth friggin' Nazis.

you think the Nazis will be elected just because of your deal?

Your one vote is that powerful?

[Infected Mushroom]

is it a betrayal of your beliefs though?

Or is it a personal sacrifice?

In what ways is it a personal sacrifice? Usually when people talk about personal sacrifice they are talking about sometime noble, such as family or ideals. Material goods tho? Nah.

You know. People make personal sacrifices for their career or to get good grades, that sort of thing.

[Infected Mushroom]

Absolutely. Free video games? Absolutely excellent deal. I could benefit from this on a daily basis.

One vote every year for the Nazis really won't do anything. However, I understand that many people would feel that their right to vote is sacred (even though statistics show that their one vote does nothing). My one vote cannot change anything, even though its advertised as sacred. So I gladly forsake it.

I assume you consider yourself above average intelligent, therefore you're accepting that there's many along with you who'd also do this deal even on the dumb assumption that it's just one vote..

..we know that 25% of any population is batshit insane on any given issue.. so one could extrapolate that there's probably 25% voting for this in any given population, which is handing a lot of power to a objectionable party, and that power is ad infinitum given you can't change per your hypothetical. One might argue they'd get more given there's batshit insane and then 'I get mine'.

You're basically saying I prefer Nazism to not getting free games.

I suspect that actually places you in the below average space on the spectrum but anyhoo.

thing is, the deal is only being offered to You, it says nothing about it being offered to everyone

why would you assume that?

[San Lumen]

The games wouldn't really be free. They'd be worth a vote for a party of Nazis. And no, I would not accept that medium of exchange. Video games are not worth friggin' Nazis.

you think the Nazis will be elected just because of your deal?

Your one vote is that powerful?

one vote could have overturned the veto of women suffrage repeal in 1873 in Wyoming but one vote doesn't matter right?

[Infected Mushroom]

you think the Nazis will be elected just because of your deal?

Your one vote is that powerful?

one vote could have overturned the veto of women suffrage repeal in 1873 in Wyoming but one vote doesn't matter right?

do you think that if you vote for the Nazis tomorrow they will be elected because of that?

[Kash Island]

you think the Nazis will be elected just because of your deal?

Your one vote is that powerful?

one vote could have overturned the veto of women suffrage repeal in 1873 in Wyoming but one vote doesn't matter right?

that national socialist movement has literally zero seat in almost every regard, one vote would mean pretty much zilch.