Do You Want Trump To Be Successful?

[Infected Mushroom]

I feel like that's the equivalent of playing Ranked League, never getting past Bronze, and then saying "I am successful regardless because my only goal was to have fun and beat Bronze II."

I mean, it feels like self-deception

Not if that is the goal you set beforehand.

So you can't retroactively change the goal?

At what point do you have to commit?

[Kaidou]

If it means you can live a happy and meaningful life, I don't see why the heck not.

I feel like that's the equivalent of playing Ranked League, never getting past Bronze, and then saying "I am successful regardless because my only goal was to have fun and beat Bronze II."

I mean, it feels like self-deception

The key difference here is that life isn't a video game, unlike Ranked League (I'm assuming that's a video game); there's no set goal of having to level up to higher ranks, and unlike in a ranked video game, there are a lot of people who are perfectly content not making it to Fortune 500.

You can't compare life to a video game at all. It's like comparing apples with Onitsuka Tiger shoes.

[Dumb Ideologies]

so I can just set a very low goal and call myself as successful as those in the highest networth range?

That's one way of measuring success for some people, but others have different standards. There's no giant tablet of objectivity that declares that placing highly on a money league table constitutes success.

You probably need a basic level of material security to be happy, but after that people have diverse life goals and if they meet their own goals they're probably happier than those in high pressure environments chasing targets they'll never reach.

That said, if collecting and hoarding a giant chest of gold is your sole driving force, you may want to check whether you're actually a dragon.

[Infected Mushroom]

I feel like that's the equivalent of playing Ranked League, never getting past Bronze, and then saying "I am successful regardless because my only goal was to have fun and beat Bronze II."

I mean, it feels like self-deception

The key difference here is that life isn't a video game, unlike Ranked League (I'm assuming that's a video game); there's no set goal of having to level up to higher ranks, and unlike in a ranked video game, there are a lot of people who are perfectly content not making it to Fortune 500.

You can't compare life to a video game at all. It's like comparing apples with Onitsuka Tiger shoes.

its way worse...

[Infected Mushroom]

so I can just set a very low goal and call myself as successful as those in the highest networth range?

That's one way of measuring success for some people, but others have different standards. There's no giant tablet of objectivity that declares that placing highly on a money league table constitutes success.

You probably need a basic level of material security to be happy, but after that people have diverse life goals and if they meet their own goals they're probably happier than those in high pressure environments chasing targets they'll never reach.

That said, if collecting and hoarding a giant chest of gold is your sole driving force, you may want to check whether you're actually a dragon.

wealth exists in many forms now though

[Kaidou]

The key difference here is that life isn't a video game, unlike Ranked League (I'm assuming that's a video game); there's no set goal of having to level up to higher ranks, and unlike in a ranked video game, there are a lot of people who are perfectly content not making it to Fortune 500.

You can't compare life to a video game at all. It's like comparing apples with Onitsuka Tiger shoes.

its way worse...

That's just so sad. If only there was a way we could escape to another world. Maybe by stepping through a closet into a winter world or winning a game of online chess or something.

[Kaidou]

That's one way of measuring success for some people, but others have different standards. There's no giant tablet of objectivity that declares that placing highly on a money league table constitutes success.

You probably need a basic level of material security to be happy, but after that people have diverse life goals and if they meet their own goals they're probably happier than those in high pressure environments chasing targets they'll never reach.

That said, if collecting and hoarding a giant chest of gold is your sole driving force, you may want to check whether you're actually a dragon.

wealth exists in many forms now though

Many of which can't be measured in a systematic and chartable way.

Meaningfulness of family relationships and friendships? Satisfaction with job? Health?

What's the use of me having enough money to buy a new BMW every year if I'm always miserable and have no friends?

[Infected Mushroom]

its way worse...

That's just so sad. If only there was a way we could escape to another world. Maybe by stepping through a closet into a winter world or winning a game of online chess or something.

I know the feeling too well...

[Infected Mushroom]

wealth exists in many forms now though

Many of which can't be measured in a systematic and chartable way.

Meaningfulness of family relationships and friendships? Satisfaction with job? Health?

What's the use of me having enough money to buy a new BMW every year if I'm always miserable and have no friends?

To be honest, it wouldn't be of much use. Yet you are "successful."

[Kaidou]

Many of which can't be measured in a systematic and chartable way.

Meaningfulness of family relationships and friendships? Satisfaction with job? Health?

What's the use of me having enough money to buy a new BMW every year if I'm always miserable and have no friends?

To be honest, it wouldn't be of much use. Yet you are "successful."

Yes you are, if you were to measure success entirely by your net worth. But are you really successful?

Not in my book, at least.

[The Blaatschapen]

If it means you can live a happy and meaningful life, I don't see why the heck not.

I feel like that's the equivalent of playing Ranked League, never getting past Bronze, and then saying "I am successful regardless because my only goal was to have fun and beat Bronze II."

I mean, it feels like self-deception

I did say that you have to be content with it

[Elepis]

No, I'm not from the US and this is hilarious to watch

[Infected Mushroom]

I feel like that's the equivalent of playing Ranked League, never getting past Bronze, and then saying "I am successful regardless because my only goal was to have fun and beat Bronze II."

I mean, it feels like self-deception

I did say that you have to be content with it

You know that the gift of self-deception isn't something everyone has right?

I mean, some people are SO GOOD AT IT they can switch instantly to Religion X overnight (become a true convert, by sheer will).

Others could die trying and can't force their conscious/subconscious to accept a single thing...

[The Blaatschapen]

I did say that you have to be content with it

You know that the gift of self-deception isn't something everyone has right?

Keep telling yourself that

[Kenmoria]

No, I'm not from the US and this is hilarious to watch

I completely agree, it's like watching a highly entertaining reality television show.

[Vassenor]

What I want from him is for him to stop being such a manbaby who has to be handed a binder full of sycophancy twice a day to stop him flying into a massive rage.

[Arthropol]

Removed for retcon purposes (2019-08-01)

[Soyouso]

It's not like I even like the democratic system, but since he affects my nation, of course! Why would a nationalist want their own nation to fail? People who want him to ruin everyone's lives just to prove their point concern me. I have my disagreements and agreements with Trump, but so far he hasn't said anything that made me think "Well, we're going to die." And if he does, I wasn't hoping for it. I'm hoping he can improve on his flaws as any human needs to do.

[Thermodolia]

I want America to be successful.

This ^

[UCE Watchdog of the Puppets]

Not really, no. I'd prefer for this election to not have turned out the way I knew it would this whole time. But, without that lovely idea to console me, I have nothing to say other than to hope that whatever damage he inflicts upon the country is reversible and temporary.

[Bananaaaaa]

No, I'm not from the US and this is hilarious to watch

I completely agree, it's like watching a highly entertaining reality television show.

Agree lolz. I do hope America is happy with whom they elected as their President. It is fun to watch though.

[Dread Lady Nathicana]

Personally, would prefer Trump to be successful only insofar as he would be doing good for the nation. Otherwise, no. A resounding no. Would I prefer order and civility over chaos? Yes, but again ... not at the cost of more of our freedoms, and being sold out to the corporate overlords. Were his goals admirable and decent, absolutely - that goes for anyone from any political party trying to lead the nation. The sad part is, those tend to be few, far between, and most tend to have party agenda and kickbacks for supporters at the forefront rather than the American People. Would rather have an ineffective president than an actively harmful one.

[Chestaan]

No, because if Trump is successful he will create a world that it is the opposite of everything I want.

[Community Values]

I'd want him to be successful as long as he doesn't hurt the nation. It'd better than what we have now, at any rate.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Yes. I hated Trump from day one, and disagree with most anything he does.

However, if he does good for the nation, then good for them.