FBI, Homeland Security warn of more Antifa attacks

[Empire of Cats]

.....so, what exactly is keeping you from it? And yes, I'm being serious.

If ANTIFA is such a threat (and yes, they are thugs), then why hasn't the right really, truly pushed through Congress or a legislative body a means of declaring them domestic terrorists? You do control the House, Senate, and Presidency, after all.

I do not consider myself a rightist or a Republican, but rather a pragmatic person who is aware of the capabilities of extremists such as Antifa. However it is worth noting the government already noted their activities are "domestic terrorist violence."

Not to undermine your point, which you make well, but you stated that you are not a right-winger and then linked a Breitbart article...and didn't you have a flag with a bunch of Steve Bannons on it?

[Greater Sahul]

You're acting like these people are the Weathermen come again. They are of no threat to the capitalist order.

[Kramania]

You've got that victim complex hard, bro.

With all due respect, this coming from somebody who is defending a bunch of middle-aged white males marching against supposed infringements on their rights.

What in the fuck are you talking about?

[Kramania]

You're acting like these people are the Weathermen come again. They are of no threat to the capitalist order.

I'm not concerned about them threatening the capitalist order (whatever that means).

[Torrocca]

A) I never said the Panthers weren't violent, mate.
B) I believe they think they stand for the US and for those who are oppressed. Whether or not they do or don't is entirely up for debate.

they don't like the US government and capitalism, da fuck you mean "stand for the US"

I didn't know burning American flags was being "Pro-USA"

You do realize you can dislike your government and other things about your country while also loving your country, correct? if you dislike your government or the economic system of your country, that probably means there's problems to either that you recognize that cause problems for the citizens of your country, and thus you want that remedied.

[Kramania]

I do not consider myself a rightist or a Republican, but rather a pragmatic person who is aware of the capabilities of extremists such as Antifa. However it is worth noting the government already noted their activities are "domestic terrorist violence."

Not to undermine your point, which you make well, but you stated that you are not a right-winger and then linked a Breitbart article...and didn't you have a flag with a bunch of Steve Bannons on it?

His Breitbart article is just a snippet of a Politico article.

Also I'm pretty sure the Bannon flag was a joke.

[Greater Sahul]

You're acting like these people are the Weathermen come again. They are of no threat to the capitalist order.

I'm not concerned about them threatening the capitalist order (whatever that means).

No, you just want a bogeyman to crack down upon.

Also Sadiq Khan is not an idiot, he's a class traitor. These are two different things.

[Kramania]

they don't like the US government and capitalism, da fuck you mean "stand for the US"

I didn't know burning American flags was being "Pro-USA"

You do realize you can dislike your government and other things about your country while also loving your country, correct? if you dislike your government or the economic system of your country, that probably means there's problems to either that you recognize that cause problems for the citizens of your country, and thus you want that remedied.

I'm pretty sure anarchists don't like their country since, you know, they want it to cease existing.

[Torrocca]

You do realize you can dislike your government and other things about your country while also loving your country, correct? if you dislike your government or the economic system of your country, that probably means there's problems to either that you recognize that cause problems for the citizens of your country, and thus you want that remedied.

I'm pretty sure anarchists don't like their country since, you know, they want it to cease existing.

I mean, not all AntiFA is anarchists.

[Greater Sahul]

You do realize you can dislike your government and other things about your country while also loving your country, correct? if you dislike your government or the economic system of your country, that probably means there's problems to either that you recognize that cause problems for the citizens of your country, and thus you want that remedied.

I'm pretty sure anarchists don't like their country since, you know, they want it to cease existing.

And which is why they shall never gain traction. I don't understand what you're really worried about.

[Greater Sahul]

I'm pretty sure anarchists don't like their country since, you know, they want it to cease existing.

I mean, not all AntiFA is anarchists.

Antifa is predominately anarchist in the United States at this current time.

[Kramania]

[quote="Greater Sahul";p="32442766"][quote="Kramania";p="32442757"][quote="Greater Sahul";p="32442739"]You're acting like these people are the Weathermen come again. They are of no threat to the capitalist order.[/quote]
I'm not concerned about them threatening the capitalist order (whatever that means).[/quote]
No, you just want a bogeyman to crack down upon.[/quote]
Uh, no. I want domestic terrorists to be treated as domestic terrorists.

[quote]Also Sadiq Khan is not an idiot, he's a class traitor. These are two different things.[/quote]
Reminds me of calling someone a race traitor. A person is not bound to some arbitrary definition of class.

[Torrocca]

I mean, not all AntiFA is anarchists.

Antifa is predominately anarchist in the United States at this current time.

Did the official AntiFA High Council Group Census and Poll come out already? How'd I miss that?

[Kramania]

I'm pretty sure anarchists don't like their country since, you know, they want it to cease existing.

I mean, not all AntiFA is anarchists.

Sure. They're a delightful mix of scummy far-left ideologies.

But I think they've made it pretty clear they don't like this country.

[Greater Sahul]

Uh, no. I want domestic terrorists to be treated as domestic terrorists.

Then abolish the government of the United States first.

Reminds me of calling someone a race traitor. A person is not bound to some arbitrary definition of class.

I suppose that I shouldn't really expect you to understand such loyalty.

[Kramania]

I'm pretty sure anarchists don't like their country since, you know, they want it to cease existing.

And which is why they shall never gain traction. I don't understand what you're really worried about.

I'm worried about them hurting people.

[Torrocca]

I mean, not all AntiFA is anarchists.

Sure. They're a delightful mix of scummy far-left ideologies.

But I think they've made it pretty clear they don't like this country.

They've mostly made it pretty clear they dislike fascists. I mean, it is in the name.

[Greater Sahul]

Antifa is predominately anarchist in the United States at this current time.

Did the official AntiFA High Council Group Census and Poll come out already? How'd I miss that?

I am a little familiar with Antifa circles. They differ depending on their locale. But they are predominately ancom. Take note of the flags and symbols present at Antifa actions.

[Kramania]

Uh, no. I want domestic terrorists to be treated as domestic terrorists.

Then abolish the government of the United States first.

Oh, you're one of those types.

Reminds me of calling someone a race traitor. A person is not bound to some arbitrary definition of class.

I suppose that I shouldn't really expect you to understand such loyalty.

Loyalty to what? Social constructs that have no meaning?

[Greater Sahul]

And which is why they shall never gain traction. I don't understand what you're really worried about.

I'm worried about them hurting people.

Have you though there are perhaps bigger fish to fry? Like the fascist/alt-right movement that has already murdered several people in your country this year? Antifa has not even killed anyone, fascist or not, in America to my knowing.

[Torrocca]

Did the official AntiFA High Council Group Census and Poll come out already? How'd I miss that?

I am a little familiar with Antifa circles. They differ depending on their locale. But they are predominately ancom. Take note of the flags and symbols present at Antifa actions.

I mean, like I said, unless we have some official poll within the group (which, mind you, is disunited as all hell), there's no way of making that call.

[Kramania]

Sure. They're a delightful mix of scummy far-left ideologies.

But I think they've made it pretty clear they don't like this country.

They've mostly made it pretty clear they dislike fascists. I mean, it is in the name.

Fascists, conservatives, centrists, capitalists, classical liberals, Christians, straight white males.

Yeah, they dislike a lot of people.

[Greater Sahul]

Then abolish the government of the United States first.

Oh, you're one of those types.

I simply don't understand your definition of terrorism. Is it simply "political enemies of mine that use a degree of violence"?

Loyalty to what? Social constructs that have no meaning?

I did not expect someone with a Sonnenrade to speak so much like a postmodern cultural Marxist. I am amused, thank you.

[Torrocca]

They've mostly made it pretty clear they dislike fascists. I mean, it is in the name.

Fascists, conservatives, centrists, capitalists, classical liberals, Christians, straight white males.

Yeah, they dislike a lot of people.

What a shame for those guys then.

Also, source on like all of those?

[Kramania]

I'm worried about them hurting people.

Have you though there are perhaps bigger fish to fry? Like the fascist/alt-right movement that has already murdered several people in your country this year? Antifa has not even killed anyone, fascist or not, in America to my knowing.

That's one of the great things about having big law enforcement agencies with tens of thousands of people.

You can fry multiple fish at once.