FBI, Homeland Security warn of more Antifa attacks

[Kramania]

I thought the US government wasn't allowed to declare any group that wasn't Islamic a terrorist group.

Well, they sure did it with the Black Panther Party. Something threatening about having minorities stand up for themselves, I guess.

>implying the Black Panther Party wasn't violent
lel

Also, who is Antifa standing up for? Besides communists and anarchists, of course.

[Chiggers]

I worry that this is merely to hush those with dissent, as a way to say "look, we made them a terrorist group, can you all ignore everything they're doing now?", but the dumb part of me still wants to believe they did this because they actually don't like antifa.

I'll probably be proven wrong, and thus gain less of a will to live.

are you saying DHS is in some kind of conspiracy?

Oh, honey...

As for what do they have to gain? A further step towards the NWO.

[The Liberated Territories]

These Antifa must be crushed like the terrorists they are

.....so, what exactly is keeping you from it? And yes, I'm being serious.

If ANTIFA is such a threat (and yes, they are thugs), then why hasn't the right really, truly pushed through Congress or a legislative body a means of declaring them domestic terrorists? You do control the House, Senate, and Presidency, after all.

I do not consider myself a rightist or a Republican, but rather a pragmatic person who is aware of the capabilities of extremists such as Antifa. However it is worth noting the government already noted their activities are "domestic terrorist violence."

[Kash Island]

are you saying DHS is in some kind of conspiracy?

Oh, honey...

As for what do they have to gain? A further step towards the NWO.

I would argue that groups like ANTIFA are for NWO, it would actually benefit DHS if they sided with ANTIFA, as they are globalist leftists.

[Hakons]

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If we knew the definition used for right-wing or left-wing, this would be much more helpful. I also suspect this graphic cuts out the Pulse shooting. Finally, a group with comparatively less murder doesn't make the group acceptable.

[Hakons]

I thought the US government wasn't allowed to declare any group that wasn't Islamic a terrorist group.

Completely false (so much that you know it's false) and adds nothing to the discussion

[Thermodolia]

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If we knew the definition used for right-wing or left-wing, this would be much more helpful. I also suspect this graphic cuts out the Pulse shooting. Finally, a group with comparatively less murder doesn't make the group acceptable.

A lot of the sovereign citizens don't kill people yet they are still dangerous

[Hakons]

If we knew the definition used for right-wing or left-wing, this would be much more helpful. I also suspect this graphic cuts out the Pulse shooting. Finally, a group with comparatively less murder doesn't make the group acceptable.

A lot of the sovereign citizens don't kill people yet they are still dangerous

I would agree with that. A heavily armed group has the possibility of being dangerous. However, they don't do the same things as ANTIFA. ANTIFA has been classified as a domestic terrorist group, and the sovereign citizens haven't.

[Vassenor]

I thought the US government wasn't allowed to declare any group that wasn't Islamic a terrorist group.

Well, they sure did it with the Black Panther Party. Something threatening about having minorities stand up for themselves, I guess.

Considering I'm talking about a Trump-era restructuring of US counter-terrorism efforts, the Black Panthers kind of aren't relevant.

I thought the US government wasn't allowed to declare any group that wasn't Islamic a terrorist group.

Completely false (so much that you know it's false) and adds nothing to the discussion

See above.

[Hakons]

Well, they sure did it with the Black Panther Party. Something threatening about having minorities stand up for themselves, I guess.

Considering I'm talking about a Trump-era restructuring of US counter-terrorism efforts, the Black Panthers kind of aren't relevant.

Completely false (so much that you know it's false) and adds nothing to the discussion

See above.

Has this actually been enacted, or is this part of the rumor mill? If this was enacted, I probably would have heard of it.

[Kramania]

Well, they sure did it with the Black Panther Party. Something threatening about having minorities stand up for themselves, I guess.

Considering I'm talking about a Trump-era restructuring of US counter-terrorism efforts, the Black Panthers kind of aren't relevant.

Completely false (so much that you know it's false) and adds nothing to the discussion

See above.

>sources say
wow so reliable

[MERIZoC]

A lot of the sovereign citizens don't kill people yet they are still dangerous

I would agree with that. A heavily armed group has the possibility of being dangerous. However, they don't do the same things as ANTIFA. ANTIFA has been classified as a domestic terrorist group, and the sovereign citizens haven't.

ANTIFA are terrorists because they're dangerous and they're dangerous because they're terrorists.

[Hakons]

I would agree with that. A heavily armed group has the possibility of being dangerous. However, they don't do the same things as ANTIFA. ANTIFA has been classified as a domestic terrorist group, and the sovereign citizens haven't.

ANTIFA are terrorists because they're dangerous and they're dangerous because they're terrorists.

ANTIFA are terrorists because the American intelligence community believes this to be the correct assessment.

[Empire of Cats]

Well, they sure did it with the Black Panther Party. Something threatening about having minorities stand up for themselves, I guess.

>implying the Black Panther Party wasn't violent
lel

Also, who is Antifa standing up for? Besides communists and anarchists, of course.

A) I never said the Panthers weren't violent, mate.
B) I believe they think they stand for the US and for those who are oppressed. Whether or not they do or don't is entirely up for debate.

[Kash Island]

>implying the Black Panther Party wasn't violent
lel

Also, who is Antifa standing up for? Besides communists and anarchists, of course.

A) I never said the Panthers weren't violent, mate.
B) I believe they think they stand for the US and for those who are oppressed. Whether or not they do or don't is entirely up for debate.

they don't like the US government and capitalism, da fuck you mean "stand for the US"

I didn't know burning American flags was being "Pro-USA"

[New welpland]

I want to dislike Antifa but the way people exaggerate how bad they are makes that hard.

[MERIZoC]

ANTIFA are terrorists because they're dangerous and they're dangerous because they're terrorists.

ANTIFA are terrorists because the American intelligence community believes this to be the correct assessment.

And yet the people who murdered Heather Heyer are not.

Imagine thinking the american government has no vested interests in oppressing left wing groups.

[Kash Island]

I want to dislike Antifa but the way people exaggerate how bad they are makes that hard.

wear a "USA" shirt with an American flag near ANTIFA and see how that works for you.

[MERIZoC]

I want to dislike Antifa but the way people exaggerate how bad they are makes that hard.

You go through nations as fast as characters

[Community Values]

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What was the definition used for right wing extremism?

I'm ready for Years of Lead 2.0, how about you guys?

[Hakons]

ANTIFA are terrorists because the American intelligence community believes this to be the correct assessment.

And yet the people who murdered Heather Heyer are not.

Imagine thinking the american government has no vested interests in oppressing left wing groups.

As far as we know, the terrorist was acting on his own accord. There is no evidence of planning or oversight from a terrorist organization.

Of course the U.S. government has a vested interest in suppressing far left organizations that seek to overthrow our government. History is filled with genocides when we see such far left organizations take power.

[Kramania]

ANTIFA are terrorists because the American intelligence community believes this to be the correct assessment.

And yet the people who murdered Heather Heyer are not.

Imagine thinking the american government has no vested interests in oppressing left wing groups.

You've got that victim complex hard, bro.

[Firsthome]

A) I never said the Panthers weren't violent, mate.
B) I believe they think they stand for the US and for those who are oppressed. Whether or not they do or don't is entirely up for debate.

they don't like the US government and capitalism, da fuck you mean "stand for the US"

I didn't know burning American flags was being "Pro-USA"

My previous scoutmaster (I aged out of boy scouts) fought in the sandbox, and he gets more pissed off by the people who want to lock up the flagburners than the flagburners, because in the U.S. We have something called freedom of speech, I.E freedom to be an idiot who doesn't know what you're doing.

[Empire of Cats]

A) I never said the Panthers weren't violent, mate.
B) I believe they think they stand for the US and for those who are oppressed. Whether or not they do or don't is entirely up for debate.

they don't like the US government and capitalism, da fuck you mean "stand for the US"

I didn't know burning American flags was being "Pro-USA"

Before you blow a gasket, please reread what I said. I am simply stating what they, as individuals, most likely believe. Again, whether or not they actually do stand for the things I listed is up for debate.

As for capitalism, we DO have a long history of socialism and populism, particularly in the late 1800's. Ever hear of the IWW? But that's another issue altogether.

And yes, burning flags is protected as free speech under the First Amendment. Political dissention =/= hatred of country. Which is, again, a different issue.

[Empire of Cats]

And yet the people who murdered Heather Heyer are not.

Imagine thinking the american government has no vested interests in oppressing left wing groups.

You've got that victim complex hard, bro.

With all due respect, this coming from somebody who is defending a bunch of middle-aged white males marching against supposed infringements on their rights.