Catalonia Megathread: Should Catalonia Separate From Spain?

[Proctopeo]

The logic is that people will say it regardless of it being true or not, so what's the problem?
I prefer the plan of "acknowledge them but quietly work to make their voices meaningless". You keep (most of) your integrity that way!

Alternatively, maybe take them a bit seriously and have a bit of introspection. Maybe their point isn't 100% wrong and something you're saying or some idea you have does sound Nazi-like.

The chances of them having a point rapidly reaches nil the further to the left they are of you.
A social liberal's opinion on my Nazi-ness I'll consider. An anarcho-communists's opinion I won't. It happens that most people who call non-fascists and non-Nazis fascists and Nazis are pretty far to the left in my experience.

[Greed and Death]

I should have went to Spain instead of Scotland last year.

[Torrocca]

Alternatively, maybe take them a bit seriously and have a bit of introspection. Maybe their point isn't 100% wrong and something you're saying or some idea you have does sound Nazi-like.

The chances of them having a point rapidly reaches nil the further to the left they are of you.
A social liberal's opinion on my Nazi-ness I'll consider. An anarcho-communists's opinion I won't. It happens that most people who call non-fascists and non-Nazis fascists and Nazis are pretty far to the left in my experience.

Well that seems pretty foolhardy. What if the social liberal's opinion is clearly an impassioned emotional reaction and the anarcho-communist's one comes from an actual, educated position in regards to something like Nazism?

Regardless, this is heavily off-topic. Back to how Rajoy's a twit for dicking over the Catalans.

[Corrian]

No. I'm not far-right. More center-rightish. But if I keep getting called fascist and literally Hitler for supporting the law and wanting order then I might as well

So proving my point above.

Changing to something else because some stupid people mislabel you is as dumb as them mislabeling you, if not even dumber.

[Corrian]

It's like the idiots that called Pewdiepie a White Supremacist. All you do is make your side look stupid.

[Kubra]

Shall we simply call you lot "rightists" with an appropriate tone of disdain? This is a two way street, guys.

[Oil exporting People]

Shall we simply call you "rightists" with an appropriate tone of disdain? This is a two way street, guys.

You can, I take no offense at being called what I am.

[Kubra]

Shall we simply call you "rightists" with an appropriate tone of disdain? This is a two way street, guys.

You can, I take no offense at being called what I am.

how about if it is used in the phrase "rightists aren't human"

[Oil exporting People]

how about if it is used in the phrase "rightists aren't human"

Feel free to do such; being able to talk insults is a part of being an adult objectively speaking but from a political perspective, I say worse about Leftists in private.

[Kubra]

how about if it is used in the phrase "rightists aren't human"

Feel free to do such; being able to talk insults is a part of being an adult objectively speaking but from a political perspective, I say worse about Leftists in private.

lol so then what's the problem with being referred to by the "nazi" epithet
it's all bants innit

[Oil exporting People]

lol so then what's the problem with being referred to by the "nazi" epithetit's all bants innit

I'm completely fine with such as I said, and technically if you go by my 8values, it's an accurate representation:

[MERIZoC]

It's like the idiots that called Pewdiepie a White Supremacist. All you do is make your side look stupid.

it was only a heated gaming moment!

[Kubra]

lol so then what's the problem with being referred to by the "nazi" epithetit's all bants innit

I'm completely fine with such as I said, and technically if you go by my 8values, it's an accurate representation:

-snip-

lol then why are we having this conversation
you ain't the one complaining

[Tananat]

I mean this conversation is interesting and all, but what does it have to do with Catalonia?

[MERIZoC]

No. I'm not far-right. More center-rightish. But if I keep getting called fascist and literally Hitler for supporting the law and wanting order then I might as well

So proving my point above.

Changing to something else because some stupid people mislabel you is as dumb as them mislabeling you, if not even dumber.

He's not changing anything. He's always been a massive reactionary, and is just doing the same whining alt right people do when people call them out on their shit. They try to shift "blame" even though people were just calling a spade a spade.

[Kubra]

I mean this conversation is interesting and all, but what does it have to do with Catalonia?

oh uh apparently someone was called a nazi or something over spains reaction to catalonia or whatever

[MERIZoC]

I mean this conversation is interesting and all, but what does it have to do with Catalonia?

People are mad that they're called fascist for making statements in support of Franco and supporting police brutalizing people trying to vote.

[The Alma Mater]

I mean this conversation is interesting and all, but what does it have to do with Catalonia?

People are mad that they're called fascist for making statements in support of Franco and supporting police brutalizing people trying to vote.

Indeed.
"I would like it if all Jews were gassed"
"Omg - you nazi"
"Oh, typical. Call someone you disagree with a nazi. Pathetic"

That really about sums it up...

[Vassenor]

It's like the idiots that called Pewdiepie a White Supremacist. All you do is make your side look stupid.

Because casually dropping racial slurs and joking about killing Jews is totally not white supremacist behaviour.

[Corrian]

It's like the idiots that called Pewdiepie a White Supremacist. All you do is make your side look stupid.

Because casually dropping racial slurs and joking about killing Jews is totally not white supremacist behaviour.

1.He gave an apology on the racial slur thing, saying that he was rather mad at himself for that because he hates that kind of behavior in online games himself, and he hated how he took part in it.
2.Shitty jokes are shitty jokes. The joke was to see how far people on Fivver would go for $5. And he was understandably horribly shocked when it actually happened, which you can see from his face pretty clearly.
3.He also made a video after Charlottesville pretty much saying he was done with those shitty jokes because he does not want to be associated with those people at all after that.

So, no, it doesn't mean white supremacist behavior.

[Herador]

Because casually dropping racial slurs and joking about killing Jews is totally not white supremacist behaviour.

1.He gave an apology on the racial slur thing, saying that he was rather mad at himself for that because he hates that kind of behavior in online games himself, and he hated how he took part in it.
2.Shitty jokes are shitty jokes. The joke was to see how far people on Fivver would go for $5. And he was understandably horribly shocked when it actually happened, which you can see from his face pretty clearly.
3.He also made a video after Charlottesville pretty much saying he was done with those shitty jokes because he does not want to be associated with those people at all after that.

So, no, it doesn't mean white supremacist behavior.

It does make him an idiot, though.

[Corrian]

1.He gave an apology on the racial slur thing, saying that he was rather mad at himself for that because he hates that kind of behavior in online games himself, and he hated how he took part in it.
2.Shitty jokes are shitty jokes. The joke was to see how far people on Fivver would go for $5. And he was understandably horribly shocked when it actually happened, which you can see from his face pretty clearly.
3.He also made a video after Charlottesville pretty much saying he was done with those shitty jokes because he does not want to be associated with those people at all after that.

So, no, it doesn't mean white supremacist behavior.

It does make him an idiot, though.

Never said it didn't.

[Herador]

It does make him an idiot, though.

Never said it didn't.

Fair enough.

[Tananat]

So in news that's actually on topic the Catalan police chief - and others - are being questioned on charges of sedition.

[Herador]

So in news that's actually on topic the Catalan police chief - and others - are being questioned on charges of sedition.

I'd kind of be surprised if they weren't.