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Postby Cedoria » Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:30 pm

Kash Island wrote:
Liriena wrote:And you believed them.


Antifa I can believe...provided you provide a source. But not BLM. Please stop trying to make "BLM are literally terrorists" happen.



bolded " everyone i disagree with is a nazi"

which is exactly why we can't have a discussion because even a free speech rally is seen as nazism.

The rally in question was attended by David Duke. Who is a Nazi, by his own definition...

Don't glorify these nit-wits by declaring them heroes of free speech.
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Postby Seangoli » Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:40 pm

Liriena wrote:
Kash Island wrote:

bolded " everyone i disagree with is a nazi"

No, but nice try.

Kash Island wrote:which is exactly why we can't have a discussion because even a free speech rally is seen as nazism.

Because "free speech" is just far right virtue signalling to make themselves palatable to useful sillyheads. The rally was attended by people like this twat, Infowars Pizzagate-peddling twat Joe Biggs, [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dana_Loesch#National_Rifle_Association_videos]and terrorism instigator and twat Dana Loesch[/u]. None of them self-proclaimed neo-nazis, but definitely on the far, far right side of the spectrum.


Hey now, there is nothing at all Nazi-like about supporting state sponsored eugenics programs to cull out the weak and stupid.

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Postby War Gears » Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:54 pm

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I'm good, thanks.

Goddamn identity politics.

We need an umbrella term.


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Postby Hirota » Mon Aug 21, 2017 11:54 pm

Seangoli wrote:
Liriena wrote:No, but nice try.


Because "free speech" is just far right virtue signalling to make themselves palatable to useful sillyheads. The rally was attended by people like this twat, Infowars Pizzagate-peddling twat Joe Biggs, and terrorism instigator and twat Dana Loesch[/u]. None of them self-proclaimed neo-nazis, but definitely on the far, far right side of the spectrum.


Hey now, there is nothing at all Nazi-like about supporting state sponsored eugenics programs to cull out the weak and stupid.
Casual reminder that state sponsored eugenics in the US happened before Nazi state sponsored eugenics of their own, and continued after it.

And much closer to the war eugenics programs were advocated by some left leaning UK intellectuals - although it never got the point of state sponsorship and it was brushed under the carpet pretty quickly when it's logical progression was discovered to have arrived at Auschwitz.

Point being that eugenics is hardly the sole domain of the far right.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:34 am

Kash Island wrote:
Liriena wrote:tfw the thread title itself is a whataboutism #feelsbadman


Seriously, though? Antifa doesn't worry me. Not really. Some people who pick up the "antifa" label might be unhelpful, indiscriminate twats, but as a whole I don't have much of a problem with a bunch of people whose violence is laser-guided towards racist scum who fantasize about committing genocides.

Of course, if you staunchly believed in liberal democratic values and thought unlawful acts can never be just, you'd have good and valid reasons to oppose antifascist violence.


lol laser guided? more like a blunderbuss in all directions, they put the "evil fascist" trope on lots of people.

The people at the Rally the OP is talking about where nazis. Full blown, nazis. Doing the Hitler salute. Shouting nazi sayings. Waving flags with Swastikas.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:56 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Kash Island wrote:lol laser guided? more like a blunderbuss in all directions, they put the "evil fascist" trope on lots of people.

The people at the Rally the OP is talking about where nazis. Full blown, nazis. Doing the Hitler salute. Shouting nazi sayings. Waving flags with Swastikas.

After reading Kash Island's signature, I'm pretty sure he gets all kinds of warm feelings from such displays of dog-like adherence to genocidal totalitarianism.


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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:34 am

Kash Island wrote:
Liriena wrote:tfw the thread title itself is a whataboutism #feelsbadman


Seriously, though? Antifa doesn't worry me. Not really. Some people who pick up the "antifa" label might be unhelpful, indiscriminate twats, but as a whole I don't have much of a problem with a bunch of people whose violence is laser-guided towards racist scum who fantasize about committing genocides.

Of course, if you staunchly believed in liberal democratic values and thought unlawful acts can never be just, you'd have good and valid reasons to oppose antifascist violence.


lol laser guided? more like a blunderbuss in all directions, they put the "evil fascist" trope on lots of people.

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Postby War Gears » Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:43 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Kash Island wrote:
lol laser guided? more like a blunderbuss in all directions, they put the "evil fascist" trope on lots of people.

If you don't believe exactly the same way as us you are a Nazi


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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:58 am

War Gears wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:If you don't believe exactly the same way as us you are a Nazi


I am okay with this, as long as it lets me wear Hugo Boss uniforms.

The one thing the Nazis where good at where those bad ass uniforms
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Postby The Alma Mater » Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:59 am

Thermodolia wrote:
War Gears wrote:
I am okay with this, as long as it lets me wear Hugo Boss uniforms.

The one thing the Nazis where good at where those bad ass uniforms


Volkswagens and the Autobahn were not bad either.
And I somewhat like their animal welfare laws.
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Postby Omnonia » Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:31 am

Liriena wrote:Because "free speech" is just far right virtue signalling to make themselves palatable to useful sillyheads.

Yes. Calling it like it is. :clap:
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:03 am

Kash Island wrote:
Liriena wrote:Are you suggesting that the tens of thousands of counter-protesters who peacefully shouted at the poor widdle nazis were all antifa or something? Because, otherwise, your allusion makes no sense. As far as I know, there was no violence in Boston.


First off, this was not a white nationalist/neo-nazi rally (The rally even denounced such things before it began)

second off after the free speech rally ended groups like antifa/blm stayed around to fuck with the police and over a dozen people were arrested.

Over a dozen people were arrested in a city of over 4 million? Gosh, clearly this is very serious.

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Postby Dylar » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:16 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:The one thing the Nazis where good at where those bad ass uniforms


Volkswagens and the Autobahn were not bad either.
And I somewhat like their animal welfare laws.

Not to mention, they also made Fanta.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:17 am

Ifreann wrote:
Kash Island wrote:
First off, this was not a white nationalist/neo-nazi rally (The rally even denounced such things before it began)

second off after the free speech rally ended groups like antifa/blm stayed around to fuck with the police and over a dozen people were arrested.

Over a dozen people were arrested in a city of over 4 million? Gosh, clearly this is very serious.

I can't believe the authorities haven't resorted to saturation bombardments yet.


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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:18 am

Dylar wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
Volkswagens and the Autobahn were not bad either.
And I somewhat like their animal welfare laws.

Not to mention, they also made Fanta.

Ya that's not a good.
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Postby Senkaku » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:19 am

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Postby Dylar » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:23 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Dylar wrote:Not to mention, they also made Fanta.

Ya that's not a good.

Oh? You don't like carbonated Orange juice? Ok then...
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:27 am

Dylar wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Ya that's not a good.

Oh? You don't like carbonated Orange juice? Ok then...

Dude that stuff is only good when I'm drunk or when vodka is mixed in.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:31 am

Dylar wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
Volkswagens and the Autobahn were not bad either.
And I somewhat like their animal welfare laws.

Not to mention, they also made Fanta.


Fanta tastes like liquid sugar.

The fact that nazis made such a bad pop is not surprising.

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Postby Hurdergaryp » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:49 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Dylar wrote:Not to mention, they also made Fanta.

Fanta tastes like liquid sugar.

The fact that nazis made such a bad pop is not surprising.

When Coca Cola rediscovered the recipe in the archives of their German factory somewhere in the sixties, they actually improved it. Originally the beverage was made from what remained of oranges after they were used to make orange juice. Proto-Fanta gained popularity in the Reich as an alternative for soup stock, actually.

EDIT: Coca Cola relaunched Fanta in 1955, which is earlier than the sixties. Should have looked up the Wikipedia article.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:52 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Dylar wrote:Not to mention, they also made Fanta.


Fanta tastes like liquid sugar.

The fact that nazis made such a bad pop is not surprising.

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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Dylar wrote:Not to mention, they also made Fanta.


Fanta tastes like liquid sugar.

The fact that nazis made such a bad pop is not surprising.


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Postby Torsiedelle » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:56 am

Wait, the Nazis made Fanta?

Shit's great.

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Postby Hurdergaryp » Tue Aug 22, 2017 2:22 pm

Torsiedelle wrote:Wait, the Nazis made Fanta?

Shit's great.

I'm a Mr. Pibb guy though.

The whole story of the birth of Fanta is a bit more nuanced, of course. Apparently Fanta was also made in the occupied Netherlands during the war, but the Dutch used a totally different recipe.


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Postby Nexus of All Realities » Tue Aug 22, 2017 2:26 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Kash Island wrote:
First off, this was not a white nationalist/neo-nazi rally (The rally even denounced such things before it began)

second off after the free speech rally ended groups like antifa/blm stayed around to fuck with the police and over a dozen people were arrested.

Over a dozen people were arrested in a city of over 4 million? Gosh, clearly this is very serious.

4 million?

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