What about ANTIFA?

[Torrocca]

Ah, an unsourced image showing a correlation, but not a causal link.

10/10

data from the world bank, economic freedom index from fraser

>TFW you determine 1.90$ a day to be the poverty line

[Taihei Tengoku]

data from the world bank, economic freedom index from fraser

And now you source CATO, who clearly think that there's a causal link but don't actually prove it.

This isn't even funny.

CATO merely did the work in Microsoft Excel to put the two different data sets in one graph. Call it "fake news" if you like but the results are the same if you did them yourself.

[Liriena]

So fallacy of association. Cool.

The important part is the idea, not the names. It isn't merely Mugabe that believes this, after all. You do, too.

I believe that capitalism has so far failed to live up to its promises and as of now is a mostly unjust and destructive force that only serves the well-being of a lucky, seldom truly deserving few. Yes.

Anyway, we've now established that your Mugabe reference was entirely pointless.

How would you know?

Their attempt was sorely lacking.

Your own source says that he was quite successful, at least until the Soviet regime stopped paying attention to him.

[Liriena]

And now you source CATO, who clearly think that there's a causal link but don't actually prove it.

This isn't even funny.

CATO merely did the work in Microsoft Excel to put the two different data sets in one graph. Call it "fake news" if you like but the results are the same if you did them yourself.

The data might be real, but the alleged causal link remains unproven.

[Taihei Tengoku]

The important part is the idea, not the names. It isn't merely Mugabe that believes this, after all. You do, too.

I believe that capitalism has so far failed to live up to its promises and as of now is a mostly unjust and destructive force that only serves the well-being of a lucky, seldom truly deserving few. Yes.

Anyway, we've now established that your Mugabe reference was entirely pointless.

It was to shorten into one word what people have written entire books about, which you missed.

Their attempt was sorely lacking.

Your own source says that he was quite successful, at least until the Soviet regime stopped paying attention to him.

Perhaps in currying influence. Stopping famine? Nah.

[Taihei Tengoku]

CATO merely did the work in Microsoft Excel to put the two different data sets in one graph. Call it "fake news" if you like but the results are the same if you did them yourself.

The data might be real, but the alleged causal link remains unproven.

It sure wasn't the victory of the international proletariat that did it!

[Lilinia]

The data might be real, but the alleged causal link remains unproven.

It sure wasn't the victory of the international proletariat that did it!

1. Well no, something that's never happened wouldn't be the cause of something that did happen. And?
2. Those aren't the only two choices, so "A didn't cause it, therefore B did" isn't valid. Still doesn't show causation.

[The Grene Knyght]

And now you source CATO, who clearly think that there's a causal link but don't actually prove it.

This isn't even funny.

CATO merely did the work in Microsoft Excel to put the two different data sets in one graph. Call it "fake news" if you like but the results are the same if you did them yourself.

The most obvious of the (many, many) problems with the graph, at least to anyone who has any idea how these things work, is there's are two things that are measured in two entirely different measurements being put on the same graph. You could have the left axis in steps of 50, and it'd show something completely different, while still being the same graph.

[Thermodolia]

>Implying free enterprise is free to begin with

I'm sure all those disparaged poor people being exploited for capital and profit and left to suffer afterward would agree with that assessment, mate. ;^)

I'm a big supporter of capitalism and even I know that capitalism alone didn't cause that drop. It definitely helped but it wasn't the main cause

[Torrocca]

CATO merely did the work in Microsoft Excel to put the two different data sets in one graph. Call it "fake news" if you like but the results are the same if you did them yourself.

The most obvious of the (many, many) problems with the graph, at least to anyone who has any idea how these things work, is there's are two things that are measured in two entirely different measurements being put on the same graph. You could have the left axis in steps of 50, and it'd show something completely different, while still being the same graph.

Also, what the hell are those units for the left axis? Percent? Freedom units^TM? What is that even in comparison to?

[Taihei Tengoku]

It sure wasn't the victory of the international proletariat that did it!

1. Well no, something that's never happened wouldn't be the cause of something that did happen. And?
2. Those aren't the only two choices, so "A didn't cause it, therefore B did" isn't valid. Still doesn't show causation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deductive_reasoning

CATO merely did the work in Microsoft Excel to put the two different data sets in one graph. Call it "fake news" if you like but the results are the same if you did them yourself.

The most obvious of the (many, many) problems with the graph, at least to anyone who has any idea how these things work, is there's are two things that are measured in two entirely different measurements being put on the same graph. You could have the left axis in steps of 50, and it'd show something completely different, while still being the same graph.

That's a problem if you're still in high school, maybe.

[Lilinia]

1. Well no, something that's never happened wouldn't be the cause of something that did happen. And?
2. Those aren't the only two choices, so "A didn't cause it, therefore B did" isn't valid. Still doesn't show causation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deductive_reasoning

Then show some.

[Taihei Tengoku]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deductive_reasoning

Then show some.

Sure

[Lilinia]

Then show some.

Sure

I should clarify.

Show deductive reasoning that proves the rising red line on your graph was the cause of the dropping blue line on your graph.

[Taihei Tengoku]

Sure

I should clarify.

Show deductive reasoning that proves the rising red line on your graph was the cause of the dropping blue line on your graph.

...that's the whole point of Bourgeois Dignity

[The Grene Knyght]

The most obvious of the (many, many) problems with the graph, at least to anyone who has any idea how these things work, is there's are two things that are measured in two entirely different measurements being put on the same graph. You could have the left axis in steps of 50, and it'd show something completely different, while still being the same graph.

That's a problem if you're still in high school, maybe.

Do you have a rebuttal with any actual substance?
Or just more wasted pixels masquerading as an argument

[New Yukoslavia]

The worst thing to ever exist. I am so happy there is an ANTIFA minority at my school, because it makes it easier to beat them down.

[The Grene Knyght]

The worst thing to ever exist. I am so happy there is an ANTIFA minority at my school, because it makes it easier to beat them down.

Antifa thugs, am I right?

[The Empire of Pretantia]

The worst thing to ever exist. I am so happy there is an ANTIFA minority at my school, because it makes it easier to beat them down.

Literally bullying.

[Kubra]

I should clarify.

Show deductive reasoning that proves the rising red line on your graph was the cause of the dropping blue line on your graph.

...that's the whole point of Bourgeois Dignity

elaborate, professor.

[Torrocca]

The worst thing to ever exist. I am so happy there is an ANTIFA minority at my school, because it makes it easier to beat them down.

Literally bullying.

Technically that's terrorism, since he's assaulting them for their political beliefs!

[Grechikha]

ANTIFA beat down a disabled veteran. A veteran that probably sacrificed for the rights of all Americans. They did something horrible to a person that defended their rights to say they are the ANTIFA.

[Taihei Tengoku]

That's a problem if you're still in high school, maybe.

Do you have a rebuttal with any actual substance?
Or just more wasted pixels masquerading as an argument

The Fraser Institute index is internally consistent, and the World Bank data is valid. Graphs with two y-axes aren't uncommon, and the raw average of national economic freedom indices understates the population-weighted average, which takes into account the tremendous progress made with the bulk of humanity (i.e. Asia). What is the problem?

...that's the whole point of Bourgeois Dignity

elaborate, professor.

Bourgeois Dignity by Deirdre McCloskey is her eliminating alternative explanations other than the bourgeois revaluation (i.e. "capitalism") for this:

If you follow the quote pyramid up I linked the first three chapters. The table of contents presents what other alternative explanations she analyzes and eliminates as an inadequate cause but you can see where she is going with this.

[Torrocca]

ANTIFA beat down a disabled veteran. A veteran that probably sacrificed for the rights of all Americans. They did something horrible to a person that defended their rights to say they are the ANTIFA.

Tossing some water on someone = beating them down now.

Not that I support doing that to a disabled veteran, necessarily. Being a veteran doesn't mean not being a horrible person, though. Nor does one person tossing water equate to all of AntiFA.

[Torrocca]

(Image)

And where do these numbers come from? Hmm? What study supports this graph? HMM?