Then why was Antifa there?
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by The Empire of Pretantia » Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:39 pm

by Liriena » Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:08 pm
Kash Island wrote:Liriena wrote:The "alt-right" killed a woman and hurt multiple others with a car, right after spending a night intimidating the inhabitants of Charlottesville.
But sure, antifa is worse because they punch people.
so all those people are now alt-right murderers because one of them went berserk with his car?
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by Mike the Progressive » Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:09 pm

by Liriena » Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:09 pm
Grinning Dragon wrote:Liriena wrote:The "alt-right" killed a woman and hurt multiple others with a car, right after spending a night intimidating the inhabitants of Charlottesville.
But sure, antifa is worse because they punch people.
That must had been one hell of a clown car for all of the alt right to fit into that car just to run down one woman.![]()
Let's place blame where it belongs, on the shit bag that was directly behind the wheel. yes?
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by Kash Island » Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:12 pm
Liriena wrote:Grinning Dragon wrote:
That must had been one hell of a clown car for all of the alt right to fit into that car just to run down one woman.![]()
Let's place blame where it belongs, on the shit bag that was directly behind the wheel. yes?
So collective guilt applies to anti-fascists, but not to nazis. Got it.

by Liriena » Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:14 pm
Deanson wrote:Antifa are terrorists. They are a group of violent self-identified anarchists and communists who attack innocent people because they're too emotionally immature and weak to handle level-headed debate and discussion. Instead, they beat peaceful protestors, destroy the property of others and wear black masks so that no one can know their identities and to try to strike fear in the hearts of anyone who isn't a literal Stalinist.
Antifa should 100% be considered a violent domestic terrorist organization, full of violent maniacs who should be arrested and convicted to the fullest extent of the law. They have zero place in America.
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by Kash Island » Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:15 pm
Liriena wrote:Deanson wrote:Antifa are terrorists. They are a group of violent self-identified anarchists and communists who attack innocent people because they're too emotionally immature and weak to handle level-headed debate and discussion. Instead, they beat peaceful protestors, destroy the property of others and wear black masks so that no one can know their identities and to try to strike fear in the hearts of anyone who isn't a literal Stalinist.
Antifa should 100% be considered a violent domestic terrorist organization, full of violent maniacs who should be arrested and convicted to the fullest extent of the law. They have zero place in America.
Maybe it's just me... but there's something off about the underlined.
Also... lmao @ "they beat peaceful protestors".

by Liriena » Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:16 pm
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by Mike the Progressive » Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:16 pm
Liriena wrote:Kash Island wrote:
judging from what we have seen quite the opposite, everyone is a nazi or sympathizer and ANTIFA violence is just individuals.
Oh, not everyone is a nazi or a sympathizer... but when the best you can offer in the face of nazis marching on American streets, chanting violent rhetoric, intimidating innocent people and committing terrorist attacks, is "well, there was anti-nazi violence too!", it kind of looks like you picked a side.

by Kash Island » Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:17 pm
Liriena wrote:Kash Island wrote:
judging from what we have seen quite the opposite, everyone is a nazi or sympathizer and ANTIFA violence is just individuals.
Oh, not everyone is a nazi or a sympathizer... but when the best you can offer in the face of nazis marching on American streets, chanting violent rhetoric, intimidating innocent people and committing terrorist attacks, is "well, there was anti-nazi violence too!", it kind of looks like you picked a side.

by The Empire of Pretantia » Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:17 pm
Liriena wrote:Deanson wrote:Antifa are terrorists. They are a group of violent self-identified anarchists and communists who attack innocent people because they're too emotionally immature and weak to handle level-headed debate and discussion. Instead, they beat peaceful protestors, destroy the property of others and wear black masks so that no one can know their identities and to try to strike fear in the hearts of anyone who isn't a literal Stalinist.
Antifa should 100% be considered a violent domestic terrorist organization, full of violent maniacs who should be arrested and convicted to the fullest extent of the law. They have zero place in America.
Maybe it's just me... but there's something off about the underlined.
Also... lmao @ "they beat peaceful protestors".

by Liriena » Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:18 pm
Kash Island wrote:Liriena wrote:Maybe it's just me... but there's something off about the underlined.
Also... lmao @ "they beat peaceful protestors".
that dosn't explain berkley, trump campaign rallys or boston.
or recently a prayer group in seattle.
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by Kash Island » Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:20 pm
Liriena wrote:Kash Island wrote:
that dosn't explain berkley, trump campaign rallys or boston.
or recently a prayer group in seattle.
You keep name-dropping the exact same three examples. That is fine, I guess, but it's not an actual counter argument. And in the case of Berkeley in particular, it's not very compelling.

by Liriena » Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:21 pm
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Liriena wrote:Maybe it's just me... but there's something off about the underlined.
Also... lmao @ "they beat peaceful protestors".
Bike lock guy will always and forever be brought up in these kinds of conversations, and for good reason: he attacked a peaceful protester.
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by The Empire of Pretantia » Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:23 pm
Liriena wrote:Kash Island wrote:
that dosn't explain berkley, trump campaign rallys or boston.
or recently a prayer group in seattle.
You keep name-dropping the exact same three examples. That is fine, I guess, but it's not an actual counter argument. And in the case of Berkeley in particular, it's not very compelling.

by Liriena » Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:24 pm
Kash Island wrote:Liriena wrote:You keep name-dropping the exact same three examples. That is fine, I guess, but it's not an actual counter argument. And in the case of Berkeley in particular, it's not very compelling.
how is it not a counter-arguement,they attacked people who weren't even fascist
Kash Island wrote:hell, i still havn't seen "alt-right" actually defined, just call everyone a fascist and there is your free pass to assault people huh?
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by Kash Island » Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:25 pm
Liriena wrote:Kash Island wrote:
how is it not a counter-arguement,they attacked people who weren't even fascist
Can you be more specific? And cite sources?Kash Island wrote:hell, i still havn't seen "alt-right" actually defined, just call everyone a fascist and there is your free pass to assault people huh?
Your words, not mine. I don't even like "alt-right" as a term. It's just the politically correct term for "I'm a proud piece of racist scum but I don't want to deal with the historical baggage of my awful ideas".

by The Empire of Pretantia » Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:27 pm
Liriena wrote:The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Bike lock guy will always and forever be brought up in these kinds of conversations, and for good reason: he attacked a peaceful protester.
I won't argue with that... but that doesn't change the fact that the "the nazis were peaceful victims of antifa terrorist violence" narrative is mostly bollocks.

by Liriena » Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:28 pm
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Liriena wrote:You keep name-dropping the exact same three examples. That is fine, I guess, but it's not an actual counter argument. And in the case of Berkeley in particular, it's not very compelling.
A single Facebook post. Versus hours of footage.
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by Kash Island » Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:29 pm

by Liriena » Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:30 pm
Kash Island wrote:Liriena wrote:Can you be more specific? And cite sources?
Your words, not mine. I don't even like "alt-right" as a term. It's just the politically correct term for "I'm a proud piece of racist scum but I don't want to deal with the historical baggage of my awful ideas".
I already gave you sources, like Boston
Kash Island wrote:ANTIFA is supposed to be against Fascists/NAZIS
odd that they attacked plain joe conservatives.
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by Kash Island » Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:31 pm

by Liriena » Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:33 pm
Kash Island wrote:Liriena wrote:Hours of footage can often still be used to give people a misleading story of the events. James O'Keefe is living proof of that.
you upset that they found out the russia narrative was being blown out of proportion for views?
nobody made those people say the things they did on camera.
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by The Empire of Pretantia » Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:33 pm

by Liriena » Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:34 pm
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