Why does everyone think democracy is so great?

[Herador]

What's wrong with fascist dictatorship?

It promotes unity and progress (rather than partisan hatred). Politicians can focus on how to improve the country and not on how to win the next election through false promises.

Pfffft hahahahaha! No.

I'm entirely convinced Mushroom is either screwing with us for fun or a performance artist.

Or both.

Whichever it is, I'm impressed.

[Infected Mushroom]

What's wrong with fascist dictatorship?

It promotes unity and progress

Italy and Germany promoted neither unity nor progress.

(rather than partisan hatred).

Partisan hatred built the Nazi Party.

Politicians can focus on how to improve the country and not on how to win the next election through false promises.

Fascist dictatorships are built on false promises.

In my view they weren't real Fascist states because the said dictators did not put the rational good of the nation first

[Infected Mushroom]

What's wrong with fascist dictatorship?

It promotes unity and progress (rather than partisan hatred). Politicians can focus on how to improve the country and not on how to win the next election through false promises.

Hm. What's wrong with a fascist dictatorship. Hm.

Hmmm.

Gosh IM you've got me there. As a Jew I obviously have no reason to dislike the idea of a fascist dictatorship.

Nazi Germany wasn't a true fascist state, it got caught up in some unrelated race war/extermination agenda. It wasn't anymore Fascist then the Cambodia was truly Communist.

A true Fascist state would have put the good of the nation, the whole nation, first.

[Vassenor]

Pfffft hahahahaha! No.

I'm entirely convinced Mushroom is either screwing with us for fun or a performance artist.

Or both.

Whichever it is, I'm impressed.

Or just doesn't understand that reality does not work like Game of Thrones.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Italy and Germany promoted neither unity nor progress.

Partisan hatred built the Nazi Party.

Fascist dictatorships are built on false promises.

In my view they weren't real Fascist states because the said dictators did not put the rational good of the nation first

So, your definition of fascism contains an inherent goodness? Then you're not really describing fascism, are you?

[Escocaria]

In my view they weren't real Fascist states because the said dictators did not put the rational good of the nation first

So, your definition of fascism contains an inherent goodness? Then you're not really describing fascism, are you?

Why not follow the principles of Enlightenment instead of Fascism?

[Sovaal]

Openly calling for a fascist dictatorship

I suppose the honesty is refreshing at least

What's wrong with fascist dictatorship?

It promotes unity and progress (rather than partisan hatred). Politicians can focus on how to improve the country and not on how to win the next election through false promises.

Hahaha. Some unity and non-partisanship that arose in Italy and Germany, amirite?

[Sovaal]

Hm. What's wrong with a fascist dictatorship. Hm.

Hmmm.

Gosh IM you've got me there. As a Jew I obviously have no reason to dislike the idea of a fascist dictatorship.

Nazi Germany wasn't a true fascist state, it got caught up in some unrelated race war/extermination agenda. It wasn't anymore Fascist then the Cambodia was truly Communist.

A true Fascist state would have put the good of the nation, the whole nation, first.

And now you're using the "No true Scotsman" fallacy.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Italy and Germany promoted neither unity nor progress.

Partisan hatred built the Nazi Party.

Fascist dictatorships are built on false promises.

In my view they weren't real Fascist states because the said dictators did not put the rational good of the nation first

You're wrong then, especially with Italy.

[Gloriana Americana]

Because like capitalism it's the best we can do for now.

Better than entrusting all your power into one dude who stays in office for life or having it inherited by his pampered, unqualified family members or keeping it within the bounds of a select group of people.

[Sovaal]

I'm entirely convinced Mushroom is either screwing with us for fun or a performance artist.

Or both.

Whichever it is, I'm impressed.

Or just doesn't understand that reality does not work like Game of Thrones.

So is that why there are no white haired girls with dragons running for president?/s

[Gloriana Americana]

Nazi Germany wasn't a true fascist state, it got caught up in some unrelated race war/extermination agenda. It wasn't anymore Fascist then the Cambodia was truly Communist.

A true Fascist state would have put the good of the nation, the whole nation, first.

And now you're using the "No true Scotsman" fallacy.

No, IM is actually right. Nazism puts too much emphasis on the "master race" bullshit, even going so far as to put it before the state, ergo it's not truly fascist. Most of the Nazis didn't even want to surrender when defeat was clearly imminent, well aware their nation could possibly be destroyed if they didn't. As far as they were concerned, the "master race" had failed and didn't deserve to live and neither did it's nation.

That's not fascism.

[Vassenor]

Because like capitalism it's the best we can do for now.

Better than entrusting all your power into one dude who stays in office for life or having it inherited by his pampered, unqualified family members or keeping it within the bounds of a select group of people.

Unlike now, where people vote in a pampered, unqualified manbaby.

[Sovaal]

And now you're using the "No true Scotsman" fallacy.

No, IM is actually right. Nazism puts too much emphasis on the "master race" bullshit, even going so far as to put it before the state, ergo it's not truly fascist. Most of the Nazis didn't even want to surrender when defeat was clearly imminent, well aware their nation could possibly be destroyed if they didn't. As far as they were concerned, the "master race" had failed and didn't deserve to live and neither did it's nation.

That's not fascism.

All the more reason to be against autocratic governments, because I doubt you'll find any long lasting autocratic regime that actually cares about it's people/nation.

And, God forbid and forgive, in the Nazis' defense, I wouldn't surrender to the Soviets either.

[Tekeristan]

And now you're using the "No true Scotsman" fallacy.

No, IM is actually right. Nazism puts too much emphasis on the "master race" bullshit, even going so far as to put it before the state, ergo it's not truly fascist. Most of the Nazis didn't even want to surrender when defeat was clearly imminent, well aware their nation could possibly be destroyed if they didn't. As far as they were concerned, the "master race" had failed and didn't deserve to live and neither did it's nation.

That's not fascism.

The USSR puts too much emphasis on the "Dictatorship" part, even going as far to put it before the doctrine of communism, ergo it's not truly communist.

You know, the whole "Farmer is as important as the business man" and "everyone matters" is a really good, yet false, sales pitch.

"Show me the car-fax!"

[Sovaal]

Because like capitalism it's the best we can do for now.

Better than entrusting all your power into one dude who stays in office for life or having it inherited by his pampered, unqualified family members or keeping it within the bounds of a select group of people.

Unlike now, where people vote in a pampered, unqualified manbaby.

Better then having a dynasty of pampered manbabies.

[Tekeristan]

No, IM is actually right. Nazism puts too much emphasis on the "master race" bullshit, even going so far as to put it before the state, ergo it's not truly fascist. Most of the Nazis didn't even want to surrender when defeat was clearly imminent, well aware their nation could possibly be destroyed if they didn't. As far as they were concerned, the "master race" had failed and didn't deserve to live and neither did it's nation.

That's not fascism.

All the more reason to be against autocratic governments, because I doubt you'll find any long lasting autocratic regime that actually cares about it's people/nation.

And, God forbid and forgive, in the Nazis' defense, I wouldn't surrender to the Soviets either.

Especially after a long brutal war of which you attempted to exterminate them in, heh!
Well, I mean, the Soviets didn't exactly return that favor had they?

[Gloriana Americana]

Because like capitalism it's the best we can do for now.

Better than entrusting all your power into one dude who stays in office for life or having it inherited by his pampered, unqualified family members or keeping it within the bounds of a select group of people.

Unlike now, where people vote in a pampered, unqualified manbaby.

Except they didn't.

No, IM is actually right. Nazism puts too much emphasis on the "master race" bullshit, even going so far as to put it before the state, ergo it's not truly fascist. Most of the Nazis didn't even want to surrender when defeat was clearly imminent, well aware their nation could possibly be destroyed if they didn't. As far as they were concerned, the "master race" had failed and didn't deserve to live and neither did it's nation.

That's not fascism.

All the more reason to be against autocratic governments, because I doubt you'll find any long lasting autocratic regime that actually cares about it's people/nation.

And, God forbid and forgive, in the Nazis' defense, I wouldn't surrender to the Soviets either.

No, yeah, I completely agree. Autocratic governments are far more susceptible to corruption, and most autocrats are raging assholes.

Honestly, it didn't really matter who they would surrender to. They were facing the hangman's noose either way.

[Sovaal]

All the more reason to be against autocratic governments, because I doubt you'll find any long lasting autocratic regime that actually cares about it's people/nation.

And, God forbid and forgive, in the Nazis' defense, I wouldn't surrender to the Soviets either.

Especially after a long brutal war of which you attempted to exterminate them in, heh!
Well, I mean, the Soviets didn't exactly return that favor had they?

Sure, I can understand the mind set of the average Soviet soldier during the rape of Europe, but I doubt that the Polish and Jewish women that were raped cared. WW2, especially on the Eastern front, was pretty much just a shit storm of human rights abuses.

[Gloriana Americana]

No, IM is actually right. Nazism puts too much emphasis on the "master race" bullshit, even going so far as to put it before the state, ergo it's not truly fascist. Most of the Nazis didn't even want to surrender when defeat was clearly imminent, well aware their nation could possibly be destroyed if they didn't. As far as they were concerned, the "master race" had failed and didn't deserve to live and neither did it's nation.

That's not fascism.

The USSR puts too much emphasis on the "Dictatorship" part, even going as far to put it before the doctrine of communism, ergo it's not truly communist.

You know, the whole "Farmer is as important as the business man" and "everyone matters" is a really good, yet false, sales pitch.

"Show me the car-fax!"

You're right, the USSR wasn't communist. No nation has ever been, save for maybe the Paris Commune, and even that's a stretch.

It was state socialist, just barely.

[Vassenor]

Unlike now, where people vote in a pampered, unqualified manbaby.

Except they didn't.

So what are Trump's political qualifications?

[Gloriana Americana]

Especially after a long brutal war of which you attempted to exterminate them in, heh!
Well, I mean, the Soviets didn't exactly return that favor had they?

Sure, I can understand the mind set of the average Soviet soldier during the rape of Europe, but I doubt that the Polish and Jewish women that were raped cared. WW2, especially on the Eastern front, was pretty much just a shit storm of human rights abuses.

It's still a bit biased when people focus on Soviet war crimes and ignore the ones the Wehrmacht committed, pretending like only the SS were the monsters.

Except they didn't.

So what are Trump's political qualifications?

No, you misunderstood. He is a pampered, unqualified manbaby.

But the people didn't vote him in.

[Sovaal]

Sure, I can understand the mind set of the average Soviet soldier during the rape of Europe, but I doubt that the Polish and Jewish women that were raped cared. WW2, especially on the Eastern front, was pretty much just a shit storm of human rights abuses.

It's still a bit biased when people focus on Soviet war crimes and ignore the ones the Wehrmacht committed, pretending like only the SS were the monsters.

Never once did I say that. I haven't forgotten the rapes, massacres, and other war crimes committed by the Nazis, but that didn't/doesn't give the Soviets the right to rape their way across Eastern Europe, or turn the countries they "liberated" into little more then vassals.

[Tekeristan]

The USSR puts too much emphasis on the "Dictatorship" part, even going as far to put it before the doctrine of communism, ergo it's not truly communist.

You know, the whole "Farmer is as important as the business man" and "everyone matters" is a really good, yet false, sales pitch.

"Show me the car-fax!"

You're right, the USSR wasn't communist. No nation has ever been, save for maybe the Paris Commune, and even that's a stretch.

It was state socialist, just barely.

I-i never got this far before..

[Tekeristan]

It's still a bit biased when people focus on Soviet war crimes and ignore the ones the Wehrmacht committed, pretending like only the SS were the monsters.

Never once did I say that. I haven't forgotten the rapes, massacres, and other war crimes committed by the Nazis, but that didn't/doesn't give the Soviets the right to rape their way across Eastern Europe, or turn the countries they "liberated" into little more then vassals.

Take a moment to pause. Does any of it surprise you?