The war in the Middle East, a Crusade?

[Soyut]

im a combat engineer in kabul afghanistan, and i say kill them all, burn this country to the ground and lets leave

Christ, I hope I'm never stationed with you.

I dont have time to fuck around with pogs, so dont worry

hehe. yeah! kill kill kill!

[Neighoff]

Ask yourself if afghanistan disappeared off the planet with all its "people" whos going to care and miss them, and honestly its NOBODY, if you claim you would youve never been here and never been walking around among the people because your forced to "love and embrace there culture and befriend them", i didnt come here to gaining a fucking afghan for a friend, and thats all i gotta say about that, take it for whats it worth

[The Parkus Empire]

take it for whats it worth

That you're unreliable in a combat zone. I don't want any of those issues of being in the platoon responsible for massacring a whole town because they couldn't locate a hostile sniper.

[Neighoff]

I dont have time to fuck around with pogs, so dont worry

Ah, but I'm transferring to infantry. MOS 0311.

But your not...when u actually do combat missions hit me up i guess

[Nodinia]

, take it for whats it worth

...then I think nobody will take it at all.

[SD_Film Artists]

A sensationalist fallacy.

[The Parkus Empire]

But your not...when u actually do combat missions hit me up i guess

I was trained by grunt NCO's, and the mindset of one was particularly different from yours, so I'll be trusting his method of conducting combat.

Are you Marines or Army, BTW?

[Dyakovo]

A sensationalist fallacy.

Sensationalist? Sure...
Fallacy? Maybe yes, maybe no...

[Islamic North America]

If you mean a Jihad on part of the Muslims, then yes, you're correct.

[Angleter]

Ask yourself if afghanistan disappeared off the planet with all its "people" whos going to care and miss them, and honestly its NOBODY, if you claim you would youve never been here and never been walking around among the people because your forced to "love and embrace there culture and befriend them", i didnt come here to gaining a fucking afghan for a friend, and thats all i gotta say about that, take it for whats it worth

Is it really healthy for a serviceman to have this mentality? It doesn't really seem right.

[Illithar]

Ask yourself if afghanistan disappeared off the planet with all its "people" whos going to care and miss them, and honestly its NOBODY, if you claim you would youve never been here and never been walking around among the people because your forced to "love and embrace there culture and befriend them", i didnt come here to gaining a fucking afghan for a friend, and thats all i gotta say about that, take it for whats it worth

Is it really healthy for a serviceman to have this mentality? It doesn't really seem right.

I would be willing to bet that it's not.

[Dyakovo]

Ask yourself if afghanistan disappeared off the planet with all its "people" whos going to care and miss them, and honestly its NOBODY, if you claim you would youve never been here and never been walking around among the people because your forced to "love and embrace there culture and befriend them", i didnt come here to gaining a fucking afghan for a friend, and thats all i gotta say about that, take it for whats it worth

Is it really healthy for a serviceman to have this mentality? It doesn't really seem right.

I would be willing to bet that it's not.

No betting necessary...

[SD_Film Artists]

Ask yourself if afghanistan disappeared off the planet with all its "people" whos going to care and miss them, and honestly its NOBODY, if you claim you would youve never been here and never been walking around among the people because your forced to "love and embrace there culture and befriend them", i didnt come here to gaining a fucking afghan for a friend, and thats all i gotta say about that, take it for whats it worth

Is it really healthy for a serviceman to have this mentality? It doesn't really seem right.

I would be willing to bet that it's not.

And he may be an anti-war puppet.

[The Parkus Empire]

Is it really healthy for a serviceman to have this mentality? It doesn't really seem right.

Not, it's not good at all, and most of those that I know who have experienced combat think differently.

[Hastaeterra]

Well, here is my two cents on the subject. I completely agree with what Allemande said. This entire conflict, like all conflicts, is quite complex with many different goals, good or bad, intertwined. However pulling our troops out would be the worst idea possible. The Vietnam war should have shown us that, if it wasn’t for the dang hippies we would have won that war. In fact we were at the brink of winning, but the US decided to pull out and the Communists took over easily.
If we pull out now, every day we spent fighting and all the deaths that have occurred would be for naught. We are over there fighting a war against a terrorist group and radical jihad fighters in an attempt to get back at them for 9/11 and the bombings throughout Europe and to stop them for doing it again elsewhere around the world. Now I honestly don’t know if we are in there for the oil or not, but I can say for a fact that this is not a Crusade in anyway. There is no religion war, the only people who will tell you it is a religion war would be the Muslims for, for many of them it is what they have been told and believe.
I am a proud supporter for our troops in Afghanistan and Iraq.

[DaWoad]

Ask yourself if afghanistan disappeared off the planet with all its "people" whos going to care and miss them, and honestly its NOBODY, if you claim you would youve never been here and never been walking around among the people because your forced to "love and embrace there culture and befriend them", i didnt come here to gaining a fucking afghan for a friend, and thats all i gotta say about that, take it for whats it worth

Is it really healthy for a serviceman to have this mentality? It doesn't really seem right.

I would be willing to bet that it's not.

And he may be an anti-war puppet.

"Never attribute to malice that which you can attribute to idiocy."

[Hastaeterra]

In fact one of the crusades didn't even reach the middle east, the Catholic army just went to Constantinople and raided the trading capital of the biggest rival church, the Eastern Orthodox sect.

Actually the Pope condemned such an act and Excommunicated everyone that took part in the raid on Constantinople.

[The Parkus Empire]

Actually the Pope condemned such an act and Excommunicated everyone that took part in the raid on Constantinople.

Indeed. The Pope condemned most of the Crusader's actions (such as slaughtering Jews), and saints were even sent to intervene on occasion (ignored).

[Dyakovo]

In fact one of the crusades didn't even reach the middle east, the Catholic army just went to Constantinople and raided the trading capital of the biggest rival church, the Eastern Orthodox sect.

Actually the Pope condemned such an act and Excommunicated everyone that took part in the raid on Constantinople.

And that made it so it didn't happen?

[Andaluciae]

So I was talking today with my friend about U.S. military involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan and he made an interesting point. Every single person we know in America who is not a Christian, is against the war in Iraq/Afghanistan.

While he's not American, and you probably don't know him...

Christopher Hitchens.

[The Parkus Empire]

And that made it so it didn't happen?

No, but the Pope didn't get any revenue for it, unless the Crusaders all decided to buy indulgences for the matter. . . .

[United Russian State]

Ask yourself if afghanistan disappeared off the planet with all its "people" whos going to care and miss them, and honestly its NOBODY, if you claim you would youve never been here and never been walking around among the people because your forced to "love and embrace there culture and befriend them", i didnt come here to gaining a fucking afghan for a friend, and thats all i gotta say about that, take it for whats it worth

Is it really healthy for a serviceman to have this mentality? It doesn't really seem right.

Unless if he goes around killing every person who he sees for no other reason but he doesn't like him, there is no real harm. He said "I say...", not "Our divsion kills every...". He doesn't have to be firends or even like any of their people [even hate them], to do whatever his orders are there, nor do his wors really say he acts on the killing of masses.

[The Parkus Empire]

Unless if he goes around killing every person who he sees for no other reason but he doesn't like him, there is no real harm. He said "I say...", not "Our divsion kills every...". He doesn't have to be firends or even like any of their people [even hate them], to do whatever his orders are there, nor do his wors really say he acts on the killing of masses.

But a mindset like that makes him more likely to kill a civilian in an environment where they often resemble the enemy.

[United Russian State]

Unless if he goes around killing every person who he sees for no other reason but he doesn't like him, there is no real harm. He said "I say...", not "Our divsion kills every...". He doesn't have to be firends or even like any of their people [even hate them], to do whatever his orders are there, nor do his wors really say he acts on the killing of masses.

But a mindset like that makes him more likely to kill a civilian in an environment where they often resemble the enemy.

While one on the other end might make the person might not take action and allow a terrorist[s] open fire or blow up a bomb, that may kill him and his brothers who serve with him. Now because that person had himslef and his borthers killed becuase him being overly cautious and letting his feelings get in the way of doing his job right. If was American soldier, that ended up in that shithole, I would much rather have him backnig me up than one on the other end. I want someone who is going to make sure he has my back, and our borthers before all eles, and putting our safety first not risking our lives because someone from far away land might be civilian. Looking at his posts, I could be sure of that. Maybe that mindset is a little extrem, but it's understanable and it's better than the other extrem.

Conscripts are even more justifed and expected of this more so than contract soliders.

[The Parkus Empire]

While one on the other end might make the person might not take action and allow a terrorist[s] open fire or blow up a bomb, that may kill him and his brothers who serve with him.

Soldiers aren't overly cautious. They're kinda trained not to be, ya see.

Conscripts are even more justifed and expected of this more so than contract soliders.

Conscription has been illegal in my country ever since President Nixon made it so.