Seattle Mayor Calls for Removal of Lenin Statue

[Republic Of Varra]

By this point since the Charlottesville incident, people across the US have called for the removal of Confederate statues, and Seattle is no different. However, a new development in the saga has arisen:

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/seattle-mayor-murray-calls-for-removal-of-confederate-monument-lenin-statue/

With the removal of the Confederate statues, come the removal of communist statues as well in this wild ride.

Personally, I have mixed feelings as opposed to my staunch stance of anti removal for the Confederate statues. On one hand, it is indeed a piece of history. On the other, it is a statue that has nothing to do with American history and was brought over in the late 20th century from Czechoslovakia. Perhaps a museum piece would fit.

That's just my silly opinion. What are your thoughts NSG? Do you agree with the Seattle mayor? Or do you believe otherwise?

[Farnhamia]

By this point since the Charlottesville incident, people across the US have called for the removal of Confederate statues, and Seattle is no different. However, a new development in the saga has arisen:

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/seattle-mayor-murray-calls-for-removal-of-confederate-monument-lenin-statue/

With the removal of the Confederate statues, come the removal of communist statues as well in this wild ride.

Personally, I have mixed feelings as opposed to my staunch stance of anti removal for the Confederate statues. On one hand, it is indeed a piece of history. On the other, it is a statue that has nothing to do with American history and was brought over in the late 20th century from Czechoslovakia. Perhaps a museum piece would fit.

That's just my silly opinion. What are your thoughts NSG? Do you agree with the Seattle mayor? Or do you believe otherwise?

Both statues are on private property, so all the Mayor can do is express his personal opinion.

[Benuty]

By this point since the Charlottesville incident, people across the US have called for the removal of Confederate statues, and Seattle is no different. However, a new development in the saga has arisen:

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/seattle-mayor-murray-calls-for-removal-of-confederate-monument-lenin-statue/

With the removal of the Confederate statues, come the removal of communist statues as well in this wild ride.

Personally, I have mixed feelings as opposed to my staunch stance of anti removal for the Confederate statues. On one hand, it is indeed a piece of history. On the other, it is a statue that has nothing to do with American history and was brought over in the late 20th century from Czechoslovakia. Perhaps a museum piece would fit.

That's just my silly opinion. What are your thoughts NSG? Do you agree with the Seattle mayor? Or do you believe otherwise?

Both statues are on private property, so all the Mayor can do is express his personal opinion.

That Seattle Times article heading is kind of whack it is almost like they have never used the word "and" before in a heading.

[Senkaku]

Tbh I think he's just a fun city meme but if a bunch of ppl are unironically salty for non-partisan reasons over it then sure


Murray is honestly making a mistake tho- this is probs gonna lead to alt-right ppl doing some awesome whataboutism regarding Lenin and other statues of leftists or smthn

But then again, Murray seems incapable of doing anything but making mistakes at this point so who tf cares

[The Two Jerseys]

Both statues are on private property, so all the Mayor can do is express his personal opinion.

That Seattle Times article heading is kind of whack it is almost like they have never used the word "and" before in a heading.

That's standard practice for newspaper headlines, a comma takes up less space than "and".

[Democracy of California]

That statue is literally private property.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Do it.

[Khalisako]

Seems the USA is obsesed with statues and such latley.

[MERIZoC]

Seattle Mayor Ed Murray has called for both the monument to Confederate soldiers at Capitol Hill’s Lake View Cemetery and a statue of Vladimir Lenin in Fremont to be taken down, saying they represent “historic injustices” and are symbols of hate, racism and violence.

Vladimir Lenin, noted white supremacist.

[Benuty]

That Seattle Times article heading is kind of whack it is almost like they have never used the word "and" before in a heading.

That's standard practice for newspaper headlines, a comma takes up less space than "and".

Not if it makes it out to the point a reader could mistake them for equating both the confederacy, and Lenin. Which lets be honest the Combined Syndicates of America are a bunch of traitors who deserved to be forgotten.

[Benuty]

Seattle Mayor Ed Murray has called for both the monument to Confederate soldiers at Capitol Hill’s Lake View Cemetery and a statue of Vladimir Lenin in Fremont to be taken down, saying they represent “historic injustices” and are symbols of hate, racism and violence.

Vladimir Lenin, noted white supremacist.

The greatest conspiracy of them all.

[Senkaku]

Honestly why does Murray have to go trying to raise his profile given that his political career is fucking over, fucking attention whore~

[Aclion]

Both statues are on private property, so all the Mayor can do is express his personal opinion.

The irony

Seems the USA is obsesed with statues and such latley.

It's an excellent way to deflect anger at current injustices upon dead men.

[Benuty]

Do it.

Raise a proper statue to the man who defeated both the Kingfish, and the Syndicalists our American Caesar in Lenin's stead.

[Costa Fierro]

Seattle Mayor Ed Murray has called for both the monument to Confederate soldiers at Capitol Hill’s Lake View Cemetery and a statue of Vladimir Lenin in Fremont to be taken down, saying they represent “historic injustices” and are symbols of hate, racism and violence.

Vladimir Lenin, noted white supremacist.

Vladimir Lenin, instigator of the Russian Civil War.

[The Two Jerseys]

Do it.

Raise a proper statue to the man who defeated both the Kingfish, and the Syndicalists our American Caesar in Lenin's stead.

No, the replacement should be a statue honoring the casualties of the Pig War.

[The Black Forrest]

Hey now. The Beatles weren't that bad!

[The Widening Gyre]

Ehh. If people were taking it seriously I'd be all for taking it down but they regularly dress the thing up in drag and drape Christmas lights on it. More of a joke than anything.

[Seahassee]

Seattleite here. I've seen the Lenin Statue in person, but I'm like "who cares?" We aren't celebrating Lenin or the Confederacy since neither have much relevance to Seattle or Washington (Washington wasn't in the Civil War and Seattle isn't a "socialist hellhole" as FOX News likes to say).

Statues and landmarks are supposed to symbolize what we value. Sure, there's white nationalists and hardcore communists in Seattle, but the majority of us do not value Lenin or the Confederacy. That's important. Seattle is all about the diversity of cultures and I think these symbols are a testament to that.

Either that or we remove the hurtful symbols. But that's boring.

[MERIZoC]

Vladimir Lenin, noted white supremacist.

Vladimir Lenin, instigator of the Russian Civil War.

K(ulaks)erensky deserved it

[Kubra]

Vladimir Lenin, instigator of the Russian Civil War.

K(ulaks)erensky deserved it

Alexander "Kopek's for Kulaks" Kerensky

[New haven america]

Ironically, those things are on private property, so they can't really do anything about them.

[Minoa]

A bit of a stretch in my opinion due to the ownership of the land.

[Napkiraly]

Ironically, those things are on private property, so they can't really do anything about them.

Eminent Domain. :^)

I'm fine with taking this piece of private property for public use and in the process demolishing the statue.

[Major-Tom]

Bit ironic that it's private property. I mean - I'm down with removing confederate statues on public/government property, and if this statue was the same way, I'd definitely be okay with it.

Lenin was obviously a bastard - but the mayor isn't being smart politically. People are riled up over the confederate shit right now given the alt right tide in our country. Frankly, this is probably just not an issue to most people.