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Postby Camicon » Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:30 pm

LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:http://people.com/crime/daddyofive-youtube-parents-face-10-years-charged-child-neglect/

So basically, parents who scream and swear at their kids over something they know for a fact the kids didn't do might go to jail over it.

Wouldn't a more fitting sentence be to sterilize them so that they can never have kids again? I wouldn't trust them around children, but I'm not sure leaving them to be abused themselves in prison is the answer either.

Child abuse as extensive and comprehensive as the kind these two asshole parents subjected their kids to deserves prison time.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:32 pm

They did more than that. They made their kids hit each other for YouTube views.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:33 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:They did more than that. They made their kids hit each other for YouTube views.


Oh god. So where do they live and are they in police custody yet?
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Postby New haven america » Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:39 pm

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The Serbian Empire wrote:They did more than that. They made their kids hit each other for YouTube views.


Oh god. So where do they live and are they in police custody yet?

He also tried deleting all the videos that showed the abuse, however, other people downloaded and reposted them before he got rid of them.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:45 pm

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Oh god. So where do they live and are they in police custody yet?

He also tried deleting all the videos that showed the abuse, however, other people downloaded and reposted them before he got rid of them.

Yay internet!
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Postby Kazarogkai » Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:48 pm

I not much into prison as a form of punishment to be honest still if it is to be used they guys really do deserve life or something close to that. I have no tolerance for certain types of people and child abusers are one of them. Included but not limited to on that list are murderers, sexual deviants(rapists, molesters, pimps, etc), smugglers and pacifists/bystanders. Atleast they got some type of punishment even if it was limited.

Personal opinion on how this should be done? Keep it simple. Take their kids away, give em a good ole beating, and exile from these lands for a time that shall be determined by a proper jury of their fellows. Just my thoughts.
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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:50 pm

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Wallenburg wrote:I feel terrible for the children. They have suffered from abuse parents who have disgustingly used social media to turn their suffering into their parents' profit. Who would obtain custody of the children should these people receive jail time?


Cody and Emma are already in the care of their birth mother. Who, by the way, reportedly had her custody stolen from her by these two idiots forging her signature on custody papers.

So forging of legal documents and two counts of child kidnapping? These people should consider themselves lucky to ever see the outside of a prison again.
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Cody and Emma are already in the care of their birth mother. Who, by the way, reportedly had her custody stolen from her by these two idiots forging her signature on custody papers.

So forging of legal documents and two counts of child kidnapping? These people should consider themselves lucky to ever see the outside of a prison again.

Not to mention two counts of child endangerment and abuse.
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Wallenburg wrote:So forging of legal documents and two counts of child kidnapping? These people should consider themselves lucky to ever see the outside of a prison again.

Not to mention two counts of child endangerment and abuse.

Only two? More like hundreds, if what I am hearing is true.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:58 pm

Seems like government interference over the rights of parents

that's how it comes across

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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:02 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:Seems like government interference over the rights of parents

that's how it comes across

I must say, you are dependable to say really awful shit, IM. It doesn't even phase me to see you defend child abuse and kidnapping.
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Postby Giovenith » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:05 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
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Cody and Emma are already in the care of their birth mother. Who, by the way, reportedly had her custody stolen from her by these two idiots forging her signature on custody papers.

So forging of legal documents and two counts of child kidnapping? These people should consider themselves lucky to ever see the outside of a prison again.


Worst part is, as someone previously mentioned, that she tried to bring this to court as soon as it happened, but the judge apparently was biased against women with mental illness and immediately wrote her off as an unsuitable mother just for that. Then she came across the YouTube videos long before this mob hunt began and was continuously trying to contact the police, only to get responses that under Maryland law it's only considered child abuse if you hit your kid with an object or endanger their life, but apparently as long as you don't do that you can kick their asses as much as you want.

A YouTuber did an interview with her here. She talks her fighting back for her kids and of DaddyOFive's abusive behavior toward her during their relationship. We also have a video from another one of his exes, Amy, who echos the same reports about his abusive behavior.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:15 pm

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Infected Mushroom wrote:Seems like government interference over the rights of parents

that's how it comes across

I must say, you are dependable to say really awful shit, IM. It doesn't even phase me to see you defend child abuse and kidnapping.


Yet when you rail against the police, you aren't defending crime or terrorism.

I like the double standard.

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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:24 pm

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Wallenburg wrote:I must say, you are dependable to say really awful shit, IM. It doesn't even phase me to see you defend child abuse and kidnapping.

Yet when you rail against the police, you aren't defending crime or terrorism.

I like the double standard.

Um...what are you talking about?
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Postby The Federation of Kendor » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:25 pm

Kazarogkai wrote:I not much into prison as a form of punishment to be honest still if it is to be used they guys really do deserve life or something close to that. I have no tolerance for certain types of people and child abusers are one of them. Included but not limited to on that list are murderers, sexual deviants(rapists, molesters, pimps, etc), smugglers and pacifists/bystanders. Atleast they got some type of punishment even if it was limited.

Personal opinion on how this should be done? Keep it simple. Take their kids away, give em a good ole beating, and exile from these lands for a time that shall be determined by a proper jury of their fellows. Just my thoughts.

What the hell. Does that mean that they deserved to be exiled from a land with very strict and heavy laws or some third world countries. Also, what the hell, bystanders/pacifists. Does that mean people must use necessary violence, and that people who displayed the Bystander Effect must be punished
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Postby Giovenith » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:28 pm

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Wallenburg wrote:I must say, you are dependable to say really awful shit, IM. It doesn't even phase me to see you defend child abuse and kidnapping.


Yet when you rail against the police, you aren't defending crime or terrorism.

I like the double standard.


The difference is that when we criticize the police, we do so in reference to situations where they have made a mistake, not during incidents where they just helped a cat out of a tree or something else clearly good and necessary. You on the other hand have decided to air your grievances at a moment where government intervention was clearly needed, implying that you see the act of Cody and Emma being taken out of their abusive household as a bad thing.

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Infected Mushroom wrote:Yet when you rail against the police, you aren't defending crime or terrorism.

I like the double standard.

Um...what are you talking about?


Apparently calling the government nosy and invasive toward rights when they save children from abuse is equal to calling out the police for mowing down people with bullets at the smallest sign of insubordination.
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Postby Saiwania » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:34 pm

10 years is probably too long. People have done worse and gotten less. The biggest criticism about the justice system is that most of the time, sentences are almost always arbitrary and never consistent. It is decided by whatever biases the judge for your case happens to have or what state or locale you happen to be in.
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Postby Katganistan » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:34 pm

I'm glad the children were removed from their custody. These parents are clearly unfit.

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Saiwania wrote:10 years is probably too long. People have done worse and gotten less. The biggest criticism about the justice system is that most of the time, sentences are almost always arbitrary and never consistent. It is decided by whatever biases the judge for your case happens to have or what state or locale you happen to be in.

Perhaps a standard and universal guideline for law must be created
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Postby Luziyca » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:54 pm

The Federation of Kendor wrote:
Saiwania wrote:10 years is probably too long. People have done worse and gotten less. The biggest criticism about the justice system is that most of the time, sentences are almost always arbitrary and never consistent. It is decided by whatever biases the judge for your case happens to have or what state or locale you happen to be in.

Perhaps a standard and universal guideline for law must be created

The problem with that is that such standards doesn't take into account all possible circumstances. Even if we are to suppose that it does, there are so many other variables such as bias from the jurors/judges that it is unlikely that such a standard can be enforced.

As for the subject at hand, I only heard of them from here, and honestly, I am pretty sure the courts will do the right thing and sentence them for that long.
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Postby New Visayan Islands » Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:01 pm

Destructive Government Economic System wrote:Wait.... only ten years?

We're talking about people who beat their own kids up with extreme prejudice; you could keep them in the brig for five, and it would still be the closest thing to an eternity in hell for them.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:07 pm

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The Serbian Empire wrote:They did more than that. They made their kids hit each other for YouTube views.


Oh god. So where do they live and are they in police custody yet?

Maryland and not yet.
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Saiwania wrote:10 years is probably too long. People have done worse and gotten less. The biggest criticism about the justice system is that most of the time, sentences are almost always arbitrary and never consistent. It is decided by whatever biases the judge for your case happens to have or what state or locale you happen to be in.

Should be longer and also should be longer for the worse crimes.
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Postby Saiwania » Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:42 pm

Corrian wrote:Should be longer and also should be longer for the worse crimes.


Prison is more or less, a holding place for people which are deemed too dangerous for society. You can be as punitive as you want, but don't pretend that there isn't a cost to this. The longer someone is in prison for, the more money has to be wasted keeping them imprisoned and alive. People seem to have less perspective on what constitutes actual abuse these days. Society is growing softer and it is a real shame.

My dad for instance, used a belt to punish me. But the point is I deserved it because there was prior provocation on my part. Where I live is socially conservative enough for locals to not bat an eye at any of that, they'd be in agreement. And the local laws reflected that. It allowed for more parental authority and flexibility. But the downside is that child abuse probably could go more unnoticed, provided a child abuser stayed within certain limits and didn't get too many complaints or was influential such as being on the city council.
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Postby Corrian » Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:53 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Corrian wrote:Should be longer and also should be longer for the worse crimes.


Prison is more or less, a holding place for people which are deemed too dangerous for society. You can be as punitive as you want, but don't pretend that there isn't a cost to this. The longer someone is in prison for, the more money has to be wasted keeping them imprisoned and alive. People seem to have less perspective on what constitutes actual abuse these days. Society is growing softer and it is a real shame.

My dad for instance, used a belt to punish me. But the point is I deserved it because there was prior provocation on my part. Where I live is socially conservative enough for locals to not bat an eye at any of that, they'd be in agreement. And the local laws reflected that. It allowed for more parental authority and flexibility. But the downside is that child abuse probably could go more unnoticed, provided a child abuser stayed within certain limits and didn't get too many complaints or was influential such as being on the city council.

What happened in those videos is abuse, and I don't really care what the cost is, he deserves to be in jail and/or prison for it. If I am growing "soft" for finding what he did abuse, then so be it.

And also I would count the latter as abuse as well.
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