You get to draft the Constitution. How do you do it?

[San Lumen]

- Put in proportional representation. A lot of bother would have been saved by that.

- Free the slaves. Might be hard to do, but if I could pull it off I know I'm preventing the entire civil war and all the thousands of lives lost there.

- Clarify or abolish the second amendment

- Clarify separation of church and state. I'd probably get that past through inglorious fear mongering about Catholics or Quakers, but would be very worth it in the long term.

Proportional representation wasn't really a thing back then and wouldn't have gotten much support. Ending slavery in 1789 would have been nearly impossible.

[Herskerstad]

Amendment 9¾ reads; A well balanced breakfast, being necessary to a healthy state, the right of the people to keep and drink orange juice shall not be infringed.

But is it 100% fresh orange juice?

[Luminesa]

Why should there be a religious test for office? What do you have against Catholics?

They are incapable of meaning an oath and their own church teaches that "Americanism", our values, is a heresy. Why do you want a 5th column? Quarantine them in Maryland, that's what it was built for.

TOO BAD FOR YOU, WE BROKE THE CONTAINMENT, ANGLO. OR BETTER YET...

*Points to New Orleans.*

WE WERE NEVER CONTAINED!!!! MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

[Sovaal]

Amendment 9¾ reads; A well balanced breakfast, being necessary to a healthy state, the right of the people to keep and drink orange juice shall not be infringed.

But is it 100% fresh orange juice?

No, only concentrate is assured.

[The East Marches II]

They are incapable of meaning an oath and their own church teaches that "Americanism", our values, is a heresy. Why do you want a 5th column? Quarantine them in Maryland, that's what it was built for.

TOO BAD FOR YOU, WE BROKE THE CONTAINMENT, ANGLO. OR BETTER YET...

*Points to New Orleans.*

WE WERE NEVER CONTAINED!!!! MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

DELET THIS

T-That's why I wanted my amendment. If you lot were only able to stand for office in Maryland, we might be saved. The only way to save the future is to go back in time before we reached this point.

[Trotskylvania]

I'd retain the election of the president by Congress from the original Virginia Plan. No electoral college hijinks that way, and it will ensure that the system will gravitate towards parliamentary norms. The President remains thus the presiding officer of the Congress, not an ersatz-king in the Founder's vain attempt to create an idealized form of the contemporary British constitution in republican terms.

Make the Senate consist of one Senator from each state, serving at the pleasure of the state legislature and not on a fixed term, binding the interests of the states to the federal government.

Allow Congress to amend the Constitution by a 2/3rds vote of both houses, ensuring the consent of both the people and the states while enabling a more streamlined revision process.

If possible, I'd trade out the 3/5ths compromise with a phase out scheme. Slaves get counted 1:1 for the first 20 years, 1:2 for the next 20 years, and then unrepresented afterwards to hopefully encourage the Slave states to incentivize transitioning away from chattel slavery to free labor.

[Luminesa]

TOO BAD FOR YOU, WE BROKE THE CONTAINMENT, ANGLO. OR BETTER YET...

*Points to New Orleans.*

WE WERE NEVER CONTAINED!!!! MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

DELET THIS

T-That's why I wanted my amendment. If you lot were only able to stand for office in Maryland, we might be saved. The only way to save the future is to go back in time before we reached this point.

NOBODY IS SAFE FROM THE INQUISITION.

WE BROUGHT ALL THE COMFY CHAIRS THIS TIME.

[San Lumen]

I'd retain the election of the president by Congress from the original Virginia Plan. No electoral college hijinks that way, and it will ensure that the system will gravitate towards parliamentary norms. The President remains thus the presiding officer of the Congress, not an ersatz-king in the Founder's vain attempt to create an idealized form of the contemporary British constitution in republican terms.

Make the Senate consist of one Senator from each state, serving at the pleasure of the state legislature and not on a fixed term, binding the interests of the states to the federal government.

Allow Congress to amend the Constitution by a 2/3rds vote of both houses, ensuring the consent of both the people and the states while enabling a more streamlined revision process.

If possible, I'd trade out the 3/5ths compromise with a phase out scheme. Slaves get counted 1:1 for the first 20 years, 1:2 for the next 20 years, and then unrepresented afterwards to hopefully encourage the Slave states to incentivize transitioning away from chattel slavery to free labor.

So you'd have senators always be of the same party from the state legislature? And electing the President by congress would mean that whatever party controls Congress would have the Presidency.

Do you know why the 17th amendment was created? It was because of deadlocks in the state legislature and business electing people to serve them.

Why should the states have no say in amending the constitution?

[Trotskylvania]

I'd retain the election of the president by Congress from the original Virginia Plan. No electoral college hijinks that way, and it will ensure that the system will gravitate towards parliamentary norms. The President remains thus the presiding officer of the Congress, not an ersatz-king in the Founder's vain attempt to create an idealized form of the contemporary British constitution in republican terms.

Make the Senate consist of one Senator from each state, serving at the pleasure of the state legislature and not on a fixed term, binding the interests of the states to the federal government.

Allow Congress to amend the Constitution by a 2/3rds vote of both houses, ensuring the consent of both the people and the states while enabling a more streamlined revision process.

If possible, I'd trade out the 3/5ths compromise with a phase out scheme. Slaves get counted 1:1 for the first 20 years, 1:2 for the next 20 years, and then unrepresented afterwards to hopefully encourage the Slave states to incentivize transitioning away from chattel slavery to free labor.

So you'd have senators always be of the same party from the state legislature? And electing the President by congress would mean that whatever party controls Congress would have the Presidency.

Do you know why the 17th amendment was created? It was because of deadlocks in the state legislature and business electing people to serve them.

Why should the states have no say in amending the constitution?

I'm not creating this out of the blue, I'm using the real world example of the German Basic Law's model of federalism, which has proven to be less dysfunctional than the American model. And yes, in practical terms the majority party in Congress would be required to govern, and likely be convention the President would, like prime ministers in a parliamentary system, be forced by practical terms to maintain the confidence of the Congress. Failure to maintain that confidence would bring down the administration and force a restructuring.

The 17th Amendment radically disrupted the balance of power in Congress, and by giving Senators popular mandates, they made the Senate transform from a body of review into a smaller, posher version of the House.

The states do have a say in amending the constitution in this model. That's what the Senate is for.

[Nordengrund]

>Doesn't like monarchies
>Wants life-presidents
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Elected life presidents. Think elected dictatorship

Elected monarchies were (and still are in a few countries) a thing.

[The Chan Islanders]

- Put in proportional representation. A lot of bother would have been saved by that.

- Free the slaves. Might be hard to do, but if I could pull it off I know I'm preventing the entire civil war and all the thousands of lives lost there.

- Clarify or abolish the second amendment

- Clarify separation of church and state. I'd probably get that past through inglorious fear mongering about Catholics or Quakers, but would be very worth it in the long term.

Proportional representation wasn't really a thing back then and wouldn't have gotten much support. Ending slavery in 1789 would have been nearly impossible.

Well aware that several of the things I put there would be *very* difficult to do. But would definitely be nice if those things were put in place.

[Seleucas]

I would expose the attempt to replace the Articles of Confederation, and have all of the Federalists run out on a rail. Hamilton especially, among others.

The Thirteen Colonies may as well have stayed under the benign neglect of the British Empire; a tea tax would be a small price to pay not to be under the centralizing and oligarchic Constitution Parliament.

ftfy

The US government did everything that people had complained about the British doing, from running a corrupt central bank, to being beholden to debt speculators, to imposing excise taxes. Not to mention its egregious policie to the slaves and the Indians. All of these were greatly enabled by the Constitution, while the British were always vacillating on how much (or rather, how little) taxation they could get from the colonies.

[Ifreann]

Why do you hate freedom?

If it's okay to punch Nazis, it's okay to ban pineapple pizza.

Dictating what people can put on their pizzas sounds pretty Hitler to me.

[Omnonia]

If it's okay to punch Nazis, it's okay to ban pineapple pizza.

Dictating what people can put on their pizzas sounds pretty Hitler to me.

#HitlerAtePizza (...probably not, but I couldn't resist. He did eat sugar, though.)

[The Empire of Pretantia]

If it's okay to punch Nazis, it's okay to ban pineapple pizza.

Dictating what people can put on their pizzas sounds pretty Hitler to me.

You think everything is Hitler.

[North Dajao]

Guys let's actually write it. I'll create a google doc

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Guys let's actually write it. I'll create a google doc

First amendment is traps aren't gay.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Everything is the same except I add a bit to the bill of rights to ban pineapple pizza.

[Baalkistann]

Infringing the 2nd amendment would be punishable by death and I would add an amendment illegalizing abortion

[Ifreann]

Dictating what people can put on their pizzas sounds pretty Hitler to me.

You think everything is Hitler.

Yeah, well, maybe everything is Hitler!

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Everything is the same except I add a bit to the bill of rights to ban pineapple pizza.

I always knew you hated freedom.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Everything is the same except I add a bit to the bill of rights to ban pineapple pizza.

I always knew you hated freedom.

Pineapple pizza isn't freedom, it's pretty much the epitome of godless authoritarianism. We must ban it to protect the nation.

[Ifreann]

I always knew you hated freedom.

Pineapple pizza isn't freedom, it's pretty much the epitome of godless authoritarianism. We must ban it to protect the nation.

The fact that I, living on an Atlantic island, can put tropical fruit on my pizza is a symbol of mankind's mastery of the natural world.

[North Dajao]

Here's the link to the google doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1X0o ... sp=sharing

Remember no deleting other peoples amendments and be respectful.

[Valrifell]

Pineapple pizza isn't freedom, it's pretty much the epitome of godless authoritarianism. We must ban it to protect the nation.

The fact that I, living on an Atlantic island, can put tropical fruit on my pizza is a symbol of mankind's mastery of the natural world.

(For the record I also enjoy pineapple pizza, but the joke was too obvious/good to pass up.)

[Ifreann]

The fact that I, living on an Atlantic island, can put tropical fruit on my pizza is a symbol of mankind's mastery of the natural world.

(For the record I also enjoy pineapple pizza, but the joke was too obvious/good to pass up.)

We'd never get anything done if we sat around thinking about whether we should do things.