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Postby Luminesa » Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:23 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Luminesa wrote:What you needed to do was Google. But since you don't do Google, and you don't believe an actual Muslim when they're talking to you, there's really not much else to be said than "yes'. If you don't wanna take the heat, honey, you can leave the kitchen.


So when did I say it was Islamophobic to question something a Muslim said?

I dunno, usually you put them on such a pedestal that God forbid one be a terrorist and suddenly everyone is an Islamophobe. So, I dunno. Just kinda funny to see you question someone when you could have Googled it instead of feigning ignorance and essentially going, "Yeah? Prove it!"
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Postby The Grene Knyght » Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:32 pm

Luminesa wrote:
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Did that really need the tirade and the shoving words in my mouth?

What you needed to do was Google. But since you don't do Google, and you don't believe an actual Muslim when they're talking to you, there's really not much else to be said than "yes'. If you don't wanna take the heat, honey, you can leave the kitchen.

Its a 3 year old article discussing one event. Do better.
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:38 pm

The Grene Knyght wrote:
Luminesa wrote:What you needed to do was Google. But since you don't do Google, and you don't believe an actual Muslim when they're talking to you, there's really not much else to be said than "yes'. If you don't wanna take the heat, honey, you can leave the kitchen.

Its a 3 year old article discussing one event. Do better.


Probably going to involve that photo of some white as the driven snow EDL guy in stereotypical Muslim garb holding up a "sharia enforcement zone" poster.
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Postby Luminesa » Thu Aug 31, 2017 5:13 pm

The Grene Knyght wrote:
Luminesa wrote:What you needed to do was Google. But since you don't do Google, and you don't believe an actual Muslim when they're talking to you, there's really not much else to be said than "yes'. If you don't wanna take the heat, honey, you can leave the kitchen.

Its a 3 year old article discussing one event. Do better.

El-Amin never mentioned a date when it happened. Just that it had happened. Vassenor wanted a citation that it happened, I posted it.
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Postby Luminesa » Thu Aug 31, 2017 5:13 pm

Vassenor wrote:
The Grene Knyght wrote:Its a 3 year old article discussing one event. Do better.


Probably going to involve that photo of some white as the driven snow EDL guy in stereotypical Muslim garb holding up a "sharia enforcement zone" poster.

Hey, you could Google it, if you wanna if that exists.
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Postby Germanic Templars » Thu Aug 31, 2017 5:53 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Probably going to involve that photo of some white as the driven snow EDL guy in stereotypical Muslim garb holding up a "sharia enforcement zone" poster.

Hey, you could Google it, if you wanna if that exists.


Or Bing, Yahoo, Dogpile...

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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Aug 31, 2017 6:01 pm

Germanic Templars wrote:
Luminesa wrote:Hey, you could Google it, if you wanna if that exists.


Or Bing, Yahoo, Dogpile...

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Postby Germanic Templars » Thu Aug 31, 2017 6:17 pm

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Germanic Templars wrote:
Or Bing, Yahoo, Dogpile...

Bing is great for porn btw

Why the hell did this make me laugh so hard?

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:04 pm

I gotta agree with Luminesia here. Now I'm not saying that Vassenor did anything wrong, but I find it ironic how liberals, generally speaking, support Muslims. We adhere to a religion that is at odds with almost every creed they stand for, yet they still support us. Maybe it's because the other side is saying the "Muslims are bad" meme and that our religion should be repressed, and the left is saying that we should have freedom of religion too? I guess that's why liberals support us, maybe not so much for the Deen, but that they support us as humans. Maybe it's not so ironic after all :) ;)
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:56 am

Germanic Templars wrote:
Luminesa wrote:Hey, you could Google it, if you wanna if that exists.


Or Bing, Yahoo, Dogpile...


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Postby Mattopilos II » Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:38 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:I gotta agree with Luminesia here. Now I'm not saying that Vassenor did anything wrong, but I find it ironic how liberals, generally speaking, support Muslims. We adhere to a religion that is at odds with almost every creed they stand for, yet they still support us. Maybe it's because the other side is saying the "Muslims are bad" meme and that our religion should be repressed, and the left is saying that we should have freedom of religion too? I guess that's why liberals support us, maybe not so much for the Deen, but that they support us as humans. Maybe it's not so ironic after all :) ;)


I don't think they support the religion as such, insofar as the "right" to hold a set of beliefs. That doesn't necessarily mean letting them do whatever they want in the name of their religion, or else there would be no backlash and constant talks over separation of church and state.
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Postby Aellex » Fri Sep 01, 2017 3:01 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:But there aren't any.

Yes there is. As a Christian, my religion has no links whatsoever with your cult.
Your do, however, being essentially Arianism mixed with Arabic paganism and a cult of personality of Mahomet.
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Postby Salandriagado » Fri Sep 01, 2017 3:18 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:I gotta agree with Luminesia here. Now I'm not saying that Vassenor did anything wrong, but I find it ironic how liberals, generally speaking, support Muslims. We adhere to a religion that is at odds with almost every creed they stand for, yet they still support us. Maybe it's because the other side is saying the "Muslims are bad" meme and that our religion should be repressed, and the left is saying that we should have freedom of religion too? I guess that's why liberals support us, maybe not so much for the Deen, but that they support us as humans. Maybe it's not so ironic after all :) ;)


No, you're just getting confused between "supporting someone" and "not discriminating against someone". They are vastly different things.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Sep 01, 2017 4:22 am

Aellex wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:But there aren't any.

Yes there is. As a Christian, my religion has no links whatsoever with your cult.
Your do, however, being essentially Arianism mixed with Arabic paganism and a cult of personality of Mahomet.

This is full of laughs.
This could be used with Christianity also. And no matter much you hate the Deen and us Muslimeen, Judaism, Christianity and Al-Islam are all connected.

Also: https://www.google.com/search?q=cult&oq ... e&ie=UTF-8
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Sep 01, 2017 4:23 am

Salandriagado wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:I gotta agree with Luminesia here. Now I'm not saying that Vassenor did anything wrong, but I find it ironic how liberals, generally speaking, support Muslims. We adhere to a religion that is at odds with almost every creed they stand for, yet they still support us. Maybe it's because the other side is saying the "Muslims are bad" meme and that our religion should be repressed, and the left is saying that we should have freedom of religion too? I guess that's why liberals support us, maybe not so much for the Deen, but that they support us as humans. Maybe it's not so ironic after all :) ;)


No, you're just getting confused between "supporting someone" and "not discriminating against someone". They are vastly different things.

I know the difference.
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Postby Sernarbia » Fri Sep 01, 2017 4:48 am

Luminesa wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So when did I say it was Islamophobic to question something a Muslim said?

I dunno, usually you put them on such a pedestal that God forbid one be a terrorist and suddenly everyone is an Islamophobe.


Because god forbid anyone call out racism. :roll:

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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Fri Sep 01, 2017 4:52 am

Sernarbia wrote:Because god forbid anyone call out racism. :roll:


It isn't really calling another out for racism when you label those that criticise Muslims racist; which was what was implied to have happened. Also Islam is not a race, therefore by virtue of that fact, you cannot be racist towards Muslims.
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Postby Crockerland » Fri Sep 01, 2017 4:55 am

Sernarbia wrote:
Luminesa wrote:I dunno, usually you put them on such a pedestal that God forbid one be a terrorist and suddenly everyone is an Islamophobe.


Because god forbid anyone call out racism. :roll:

Islam is not a race, it is an ideology which supports racketeering, murder, rape, and slavery, including sex slavery, being an "Islamophobe" has nothing to do with race.
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Postby Salandriagado » Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:05 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
No, you're just getting confused between "supporting someone" and "not discriminating against someone". They are vastly different things.

I know the difference.


The evidence suggests otherwise.
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Postby Luminesa » Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:15 am

Vassenor wrote:
Germanic Templars wrote:
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#notmyjobtoeducateyou

No. This little hashtag is absolutely asinine. You want a citation, you want information that's directly at your fingertips, you can look it up. Nobody is asking for you to be a teacher, and you're not in any position to put yourself up on a pedastal as such, if you're not willing to actually be proactive in doing so. You're the one who didn't Google, Templars did not ask for a citation that he could have very-well searched himself. You're not called to educate anyone but yourself in this matter.
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Postby Luminesa » Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:16 am

Sernarbia wrote:
Luminesa wrote:I dunno, usually you put them on such a pedestal that God forbid one be a terrorist and suddenly everyone is an Islamophobe.


Because god forbid anyone call out racism. :roll:

...Imma just ask them myself. El-Amin, is anything I have said in the last two pages racist toward you?
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Postby New Larthinia » Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:21 am

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Postby Aellex » Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:40 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:This is full of laughs.
This could be used with Christianity also. And no matter much you hate the Deen and us Muslimeen, Judaism, Christianity and Al-Islam are all connected.

Also: https://www.google.com/search?q=cult&oq ... e&ie=UTF-8

It's better to laugh than to cry in the face of the unpleasant Truth, I suppose, but what is even better is to accept it and change one's ways. ;)

And, no, this really couldn't. There is no denying that Islamic core theology is more or less the Arian heresy take on Christianity with bits of Arabic paganism mixed into it (t. Satanic Verses).
The same can not be said of Christianity.

Moreover, it's not that surprising that, given that both of those things were the only things Mahomet knew about Religion, he used them as a base when he created his cult.

Anyway, no. Your Allah and Mahomet that you worship have no links whatsoever with Jesus-Christ, our Savior and God. You continuing to claim so in spite of the truth won't makes it otherwise.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:11 am

Luminesa wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So when did I say it was Islamophobic to question something a Muslim said?

I dunno, usually you put them on such a pedestal that God forbid one be a terrorist and suddenly everyone is an Islamophobe. So, I dunno. Just kinda funny to see you question someone when you could have Googled it instead of feigning ignorance and essentially going, "Yeah? Prove it!"


So yes you're shoving words into my mouth to fit a narrative.
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Postby Luminesa » Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:15 am

Vassenor wrote:
Luminesa wrote:I dunno, usually you put them on such a pedestal that God forbid one be a terrorist and suddenly everyone is an Islamophobe. So, I dunno. Just kinda funny to see you question someone when you could have Googled it instead of feigning ignorance and essentially going, "Yeah? Prove it!"


So yes you're shoving words into my mouth to fit a narrative.

If you don't want to look at your own previous posts, that's fine, I'm not going to point to you your own words. You're a grown woman, you're responsible for what you've written, not me. There's no narrative here, you turned on a Muslim when you've always essentially told others that doing so makes them an Islamophobe. Even El-Amin says they're not even sure why you support Muslims. Really, I suppose it's like how many licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop. The world may never know.
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