Charlottesville: Where Do We Go From Here?

[Nexus of All Realities]

So this is happening.

No idea what the hell that means.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

Whataboutism is a propaganda technique formerly used by the Soviet Union in its dealings with the Western world, and subsequently used as a form of propaganda in post-Soviet Russia. When criticisms were leveled at the Soviet Union, the Soviet response would be "What about..." followed by an event in the Western world.

The term whataboutery has been used in British English since the period of The Troubles conflict in Northern Ireland. Lexicographers date the first appearance of the variant whataboutism to the 1990s, while other historians state that during the Cold War Western officials referred to the Soviet propaganda strategy by that term. The tactic saw a resurgence in post-Soviet Russia, relating to human rights violations committed by, and criticisms of, the Russian government. The technique received new attention during Russia's 2014 annexation of Crimea and military intervention in Ukraine. Usage of the tactic extended to Russian President Vladimir Putin and his spokesman, Dmitry Peskov.

In more literal terms, your line asking why we're talking about this when North Korea is doing nebulous things.

I'm saying that I care about this somewhat less than I do a nuclear threat. Then yes...

North Korea has nuclear weapons that's far from a nebulous threat. Nevermind.

[Vassenor]

I don't know man, you've just sat around essentially calling people stupid. Not like you've offered up much more in terms of quality content.

Well, damn, what the fuck do you expect me to give with these responses? All, I'm getting is "you're white supremacist/nationalist/racist, etc" I don't see anybody attempting to refute what I said about globalism or anything else mentioned. Or even trying to understand more deeply why I feel the way I do. Sorry, but you get out what you put in.

Also why shouldn't we consider an ideology responsible for the systematic murder of between six and eleven million people (if not more) to be evil?

[Neo Balka]

Heres the thing with Antifa, they dont have to be dressed up like Emo kid rejects in highschool to BE antifa.

Yes. But...it does kind of sound a little McCarthy-ish.

"I have here in my hand a list of known ANTIFA thugs..."

now that shit would be actually useful.

[Insaeldor]

I don't know man, you've just sat around essentially calling people stupid. Not like you've offered up much more in terms of quality content.

Well, damn, what the fuck do you expect me to give with these responses? All, I'm getting is "you're white supremacist/nationalist/racist, etc" I don't see anybody attempting to refute what I said about globalism or anything else mentioned. Or even trying to understand more deeply why I feel the way I do. Sorry, but you get out what you put in.

Nah you could just a try had and explain things that don't boil down to "lmao you're stupid haha" just because they're saying the exact same thing. Makes you just as bad as them.

[Litorea]

I don't know man, you've just sat around essentially calling people stupid. Not like you've offered up much more in terms of quality content.

Well, damn, what the fuck do you expect me to give with these responses? All, I'm getting is "you're white supremacist/nationalist/racist, etc" I don't see anybody attempting to refute what I said about globalism or anything else mentioned. Or even trying to understand more deeply why I feel the way I do. Sorry, but you get out what you put in.

Forgive us for being hesitant to respond when your opening made you sound like a fanatic who's already deeply committed to your certain ideology and only pretending to be open for discussion to get some egg on some "globalist" faces.

[Thermodolia]

Society should not memorialise treason, no.

That actually makes a lot of sense. While Lee was one of the best American generals, he was a traitor. We should treat him the same as Benedict Arnold.

Down with the traitors and up with the stars!

'Murcia!!! Hooah!!

[Olerand]

"So what to people eat in 'White?'"

Fried chicken. Fried ice cream. Fried Oreos. Fried. Fucking. Everything.

So White is in Scotland and the American Deep South? Sounds about right.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Okay guys, I've been out on a boat with no internet for the last 5 hours. Can someone give me a tl;dr? Was it alt right attacking left wingers or the other way around?

[Neo Balka]

Okay guys, I've been out on a boat with no internet for the last 5 hours. Can someone give me a tl;dr? Was it alt right attacking left wingers or the other way around?

Some white supremacist ran over a bunch of "Anti-racist" protesters....usually a load of shit; but someone died.

[Licana]

Also why shouldn't we consider an ideology responsible for the systematic murder of between six and eleven million people (if not more) to be evil?

So what you're saying is that we should commend the Charlottesville driver as a hero fighting against communist ideologues? Perhaps we should put his Challenger in a museum.

[Vassenor]

Okay guys, I've been out on a boat with no internet for the last 5 hours. Can someone give me a tl;dr? Was it alt right attacking left wingers or the other way around?

Alt-right dude drove a car into a crowd of left-wing counter protesters. One person died, several others are in critical.

[Insaeldor]

Okay guys, I've been out on a boat with no internet for the last 5 hours. Can someone give me a tl;dr? Was it alt right attacking left wingers or the other way around?

Nazis go and protest
Antifa counter protests
Nazis hits Antifa with car
Someone's dead.

[Olerand]

The white nat march was made up of genetic trash, the man who plowed the car into the crowd and killed someone should get the death penalty slapped onto him, the statue of Lee should be torn down.

This story about these statues are the funniest thing... This man led an army that killed Americans... And yet, he has a statue in front of buildings in America, and Americans marching to defend him.

America...

[Aellex]

I don't know what that means. Boring?

Neither in Education, Employment nor Training, the term is closely associated with neckbeards.
I'm merely having a jape at the fact that he spent most of his life leeching from Hegel while doing jack-shit, even refusing the jobs he offered him.

[Vassenor]

Also why shouldn't we consider an ideology responsible for the systematic murder of between six and eleven million people (if not more) to be evil?

So what you're saying is that we should commend the Charlottesville driver as a hero fighting against communist ideologues? Perhaps we should put his Challenger in a museum.

...OK how the actual fuck did you get that from what I said?

[Nexus of All Realities]

Fried chicken. Fried ice cream. Fried Oreos. Fried. Fucking. Everything.

So White is in Scotland and the American Deep South? Sounds about right.

You're being disingenuous and you know it.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Okay guys, I've been out on a boat with no internet for the last 5 hours. Can someone give me a tl;dr? Was it alt right attacking left wingers or the other way around?

A reminder that even though Antifa's been wreaking havoc, white nationalists still aren't good people.

[Insaeldor]

So what you're saying is that we should commend the Charlottesville driver as a hero fighting against communist ideologues? Perhaps we should put his Challenger in a museum.

...OK how the actual fuck did you get that from what I said?

You see in NSG you're suppose to be so caught up in arguing that you actually don't read the posts you just respond.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

So White is in Scotland and the American Deep South? Sounds about right.

You're being disingenuous and you know it.

He's joking. We're joking. We've been joking. Joking is a thing.

[Torsiedelle]

The white nat march was made up of genetic trash, the man who plowed the car into the crowd and killed someone should get the death penalty slapped onto him, the statue of Lee should be torn down.

This story about these statues are the funniest thing... This man led an army that killed Americans... And yet, he has a statue in front of buildings in America, and Americans marching to defend him.

America...

The Confederates were American, too.

[Insaeldor]

So White is in Scotland and the American Deep South? Sounds about right.

You're being disingenuous and you know it.

It's called sarcasm.

[Aellex]

The white nat march was made up of genetic trash, the man who plowed the car into the crowd and killed someone should get the death penalty slapped onto him, the statue of Lee should be torn down.

This story about these statues are the funniest thing... This man led an army that killed Americans... And yet, he has a statue in front of buildings in America, and Americans marching to defend him.

America...

To be fair, and playing the devil's advocate here, we do have statues of Danton and Robespierre despite both of them killing more Frenchmen than they ever did foreigners.

[Thermodolia]

The white nat march was made up of genetic trash, the man who plowed the car into the crowd and killed someone should get the death penalty slapped onto him, the statue of Lee should be torn down.

This story about these statues are the funniest thing... This man led an army that killed Americans... And yet, he has a statue in front of buildings in America, and Americans marching to defend him.

America...

Hey I don't get it either. He and the rest of the CSA where traitors and shouldn't be memorialized

[Nexus of All Realities]

The white nat march was made up of genetic trash, the man who plowed the car into the crowd and killed someone should get the death penalty slapped onto him, the statue of Lee should be torn down.

This story about these statues are the funniest thing... This man led an army that killed Americans... And yet, he has a statue in front of buildings in America, and Americans marching to defend him.

America...

Uh at the time he lead an army that killed soldiers of the Union.

[Olerand]

So this is happening.

How quaint.