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Postby Benuty » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:37 am

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Benuty wrote:I wonder how much Beijing is paying you to say this.

They only pay in the number of organs they won't harvest.

They make a lot of money off of it, but I seriously think they might end up starting some pandemic from it, and leaving the survivors with the following question. "How did people in certain countries get infected so early?".
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:38 am

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Well the fake president has just named the groups as per link provided by Derpy. So I guess the fake President's effort to not name them didn't work.

I know you're still salty, but saying that he's a fake president won't make him a fake president.


And saying that the news is fake news doesn't make it fake news.
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Postby Liriena » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:38 am

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Pasong Tirad wrote:Yeah I'm not talking about him, I'm talking about you, a Cuban, probably brown or black-skinned, man. You, Cuban man who in their eyes will never be their equal by status of their birth. You, Cuban man, who will never be able to achieve their level of white privilege only because you weren't born a WASP. You, Cuban man, who neglects the racial policies of the Neo-Nazis and the KKK and supports them anyway because "they're not on the left." You can't get away from how totally fucking ridiculous it is for you to even try to defend this. You, your white Latino neighbor, your Jewish neighbor, and your African-American neighbor, are all the targets of their backwards racial policies. I hope you know that.


Yikes, people are still whimpering about the mythical "white privilege" debacle?

You mean the concept with varying degrees of acceptance in academic circles that tends to trigger a lot of white fragility when brought up?
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Postby Benuty » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:38 am

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Bannedbytomorrow wrote:I know you're still salty, but saying that he's a fake president won't make him a fake president.


And saying that the news is fake news doesn't make it fake news.

Unless it really is like when CNN pretty much ignored other important affairs to focus on a plane because they were bored.
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Postby Bannedbytomorrow » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:39 am

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thanks iq search info is a v credible source, not like we already addressed how iq is not a well developed biometric to measure intelligence and its links to regions is not related to race, but socio economic reasons

Right, because the richest country in the world, Qatar, has the highest IQ on that list.
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Postby The Hyacinth Flower » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:40 am

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The Hyacinth Flower wrote:ok, this video is irrelevant bc one side which was counterprotests were stopping the group from walking, and the group kept marching,someone said move and somewhere unseen there´s a violent clash and people start fighting, how does this relate to the far right not having an ideology that encourages violence and extermination of the opposition as one of its major tenants, hence making this clash seen as good and an expression of power form one side? ( and also making the killing of a person justified and lawful )
and even if u ignore this ideological framework, how can u claim that throwing the first punch means its ok for someone to ram a car and kill someone on a group of protestors that were peaceful?

They were arguing that Antifa started the violence, and as far as I know, neither of them said that ramming people with a car was justified.

the argument that antifa started the violence is related to the argument that ramming someone was justified because it is not the far rights who were randomly violent, its bc the antifa prompted them, thats the basic framework of this,

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Postby Sovaal » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:40 am

Benuty wrote:
Sovaal wrote:They only pay in the number of organs they won't harvest.

They make a lot of money off of it, but I seriously think they might end up starting some pandemic from it, and leaving the survivors with the following question. "How did people in certain countries get infected so early?".

And then some sorta cure for the new rabies will be created, but then a big news story will break out that it doesn't work because said disease isn't actually rabies and then most of humanity is eaten dies.
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Postby Liriena » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:40 am

Bannedbytomorrow wrote:
The Hyacinth Flower wrote:thanks iq search info is a v credible source, not like we already addressed how iq is not a well developed biometric to measure intelligence and its links to regions is not related to race, but socio economic reasons

Right, because the richest country in the world, Qatar, has the highest IQ on that list.
http://uk.businessinsider.com/the-riche ... 7-78407-28

Do you have any peer-reviewed papers that prove the existence of such a thing as "genetic racial superiority"?
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:40 am

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Vassenor wrote:
But you haven't actually proved that yet. You've just shown people claiming it, and you haven't proven that they threw the first punch.

Also showing up with guns and other weapons is totally peaceful assembly. :roll:



Here's the video, and take a look for yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOT3wDR7WZU

And the Far-right protestors were only defending themselves from the impending violent radical leftist groups such as BLM and Antifa.

The far-right and far-left bad. And excusing the far-right is just as bad
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Postby Bannedbytomorrow » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:41 am

Liriena wrote:
Bannedbytomorrow wrote:Right, because the richest country in the world, Qatar, has the highest IQ on that list.
http://uk.businessinsider.com/the-riche ... 7-78407-28

Do you have any peer-reviewed papers that prove the existence of such a thing as "genetic racial superiority"?

I can't say I do, but are you assuming that every human on this planet is equal genetically?
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Postby Benuty » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:41 am

Liriena wrote:
Staniel wrote:
Yikes, people are still whimpering about the mythical "white privilege" debacle?

You mean the concept with varying degrees of acceptance in academic circles that tends to trigger a lot of white fragility when brought up?

There is a point when its gets to a certain level of ridiculousness like saying homeless whites are still privileged. To be honest I don't blame people getting angry when a concept pretty much becomes so overused to the point of a morbid joke. Experiencing a trigger used to be something serious, but now well those times have long since past.
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Postby Staniel » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:41 am

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On Saturday afternoon, after the country watched white supremacists amass on the streets of Charlottesville, and street brawls break out between them and some anti-fascist protesters,


From: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/ne ... ce-w497446

Your first article made it quite clear that anti-fascist protesters are not necessarily synonymous with antifa.


What kind of sense does that make? So by your logic, anti-cop black people are not necessarily synonymous with BLM, although the group is vehemently anti-cop, and that anti-cop black people (or most) certainly do SUPPORT BLM like DeRay McKesson.... :eyebrow:

Also, I had that article on to reiterate that Antifa WAS there in full force. The terrorist group has nationwide affiliations.
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Postby The Hyacinth Flower » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:42 am

Bannedbytomorrow wrote:
The Hyacinth Flower wrote:thanks iq search info is a v credible source, not like we already addressed how iq is not a well developed biometric to measure intelligence and its links to regions is not related to race, but socio economic reasons

Right, because the richest country in the world, Qatar, has the highest IQ on that list.
http://uk.businessinsider.com/the-riche ... 7-78407-28

tfw u think ¨socio economic reasons¨ means having a high gdp
u should go to college and take economics 101 and economics 102 and then come back without this laissez fair nonesense

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Postby Liriena » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:42 am

Bannedbytomorrow wrote:
Liriena wrote:Do you have any peer-reviewed papers that prove the existence of such a thing as "genetic racial superiority"?

I can't say I do, but are you assuming that every human on this planet is equal genetically?

Certainly not, but I'm not the one trying to argue that some "races" are "genetically superior".
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Postby Senkaku » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:42 am

Bannedbytomorrow wrote:
The Hyacinth Flower wrote:thanks iq search info is a v credible source, not like we already addressed how iq is not a well developed biometric to measure intelligence and its links to regions is not related to race, but socio economic reasons

Right, because the richest country in the world, Qatar, has the highest IQ on that list.
http://uk.businessinsider.com/the-riche ... 7-78407-28

Qatar also has one of the highest degrees of income inequality in the world and a tiny percentage of the ppl who live there are actually citizens soooo imma say there's some other issues going on there


but please, cherrypick more, this isn't tiresome at all
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Postby Benuty » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:43 am

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Benuty wrote:They make a lot of money off of it, but I seriously think they might end up starting some pandemic from it, and leaving the survivors with the following question. "How did people in certain countries get infected so early?".

And then some sorta cure for the new rabies will be created, but then a big news story will break out that it doesn't work because said disease isn't actually rabies and then most of humanity is eaten dies.

I mean as much as I detest Breckenridge Scott he was right that it kept things in order than for much longer than possible. The reveal it didn't work lead probably to the deaths of billions by the end of the conflict.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:43 am

Bannedbytomorrow wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I'm sure it has absolutely no reason to do with the racist belief that some races are genetically stupid

https://iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country

Doesn't mean that one race is genetically stupid. Just means that those nations are poor and don't have access to education. IQ isn't permanent.
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Postby Seangoli » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:43 am

Bannedbytomorrow wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I'm sure it has absolutely no reason to do with the racist belief that some races are genetically stupid

https://iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country


If you have no clue what the Flynn effect is, the cultural biases that exist in IQ tests, or the fact that IQ tests have long been known to be bunk science then you probably have place trying to axt like you have a fucking clue on this subkect. Simply put IQ tests mean almost nothing in terms of innate intelligence, yet people like you whonhave no understanding of the most modern research on the subject cintinuw to tout it like it does.
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Postby Isentria » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:44 am

Benuty wrote:
Liriena wrote:You mean the concept with varying degrees of acceptance in academic circles that tends to trigger a lot of white fragility when brought up?

There is a point when its gets to a certain level of ridiculousness like saying homeless whites are still privileged. To be honest I don't blame people getting angry when a concept pretty much becomes so overused to the point of a morbid joke. Experiencing a trigger used to be something serious, but now well those times have long since past.


Are you saying that a white man on welfare is not more privileged than Beyonce ? Imagine my shock.

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Postby The Hyacinth Flower » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:44 am

Benuty wrote:
Liriena wrote:You mean the concept with varying degrees of acceptance in academic circles that tends to trigger a lot of white fragility when brought up?

There is a point when its gets to a certain level of ridiculousness like saying homeless whites are still privileged. To be honest I don't blame people getting angry when a concept pretty much becomes so overused to the point of a morbid joke. Experiencing a trigger used to be something serious, but now well those times have long since past.

ok, but people claiming homeless whites are privileged isnt a controversial point, because it is accepted that they are disenfranchised bc of their lack of wealth, maybe u should try reading into this before forming uninformed opinions

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Postby Bannedbytomorrow » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:45 am

Thermodolia wrote:

Doesn't mean that one race is genetically stupid. Just means that those nations are poor and don't have access to education. IQ isn't permanent.

Wrong. IQ is heritable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0_NsS1Zdlk
Also, why don't you think they have access to education?
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Postby Liriena » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:46 am

Staniel wrote:
Liriena wrote:Your first article made it quite clear that anti-fascist protesters are not necessarily synonymous with antifa.


What kind of sense does that make? So by your logic, anti-cop black people are not necessarily synonymous with BLM, although the group is vehemently anti-cop, and that anti-cop black people (or most) certainly do SUPPORT BLM like DeRay McKesson.... :eyebrow:

If by "anti-cop" you mean "opposed to racial bias in law enforcement and the criminal justice system", then yes... although some citations would be appreciated for the underlined.

Being opposed to fascism doesn't automatically make you a member of an antifa group any more than being opposed to Hillary Clinton automatically made you a Republican.
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Postby Sovaal » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:46 am

Benuty wrote:
Sovaal wrote:And then some sorta cure for the new rabies will be created, but then a big news story will break out that it doesn't work because said disease isn't actually rabies and then most of humanity is eaten dies.

I mean as much as I detest Breckenridge Scott he was right that it kept things in order than for much longer than possible. The reveal it didn't work lead probably to the deaths of billions by the end of the conflict.

What really irks me is that the military thought that the best time to adopt a new infantry weapon was in the middle of a war where they where running low on resources.
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Postby Seangoli » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:46 am

Thermodolia wrote:

Doesn't mean that one race is genetically stupid. Just means that those nations are poor and don't have access to education. IQ isn't permanent.


Fun fact: something as small as having breakfast has been shown to have a major impact on the results of these tests. Among other things.

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Postby The Hyacinth Flower » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:46 am

Bannedbytomorrow wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Doesn't mean that one race is genetically stupid. Just means that those nations are poor and don't have access to education. IQ isn't permanent.

Wrong. IQ is heritable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0_NsS1Zdlk

i didnt know youtube was a peer reviewed source tbh

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