Charlottesville: Where Do We Go From Here?

[Seangoli]

Perhaps you could skip to whatever point you think you're making.
These are pretty basic facts that you seem ignorant of.

No fun for me, then. The argument I'm making is that all races of the world started from the same point, however, some races, like the Europeans and Asians, progressed, and greatly exceeded other races by building great works and empires, while other races, like sub-Saharan Africans, and Australian aboriginals, never reached the extent of progression from their starting point as the Europeans and Asians did, thus making the Europeans and Asians intellectually superior than other races.

You uh... do not know anything about pre-colonial history of Africa, then.

Also, the Aboriginals lived cut off from the entirety of the world for tens pf thousands of years, and were living in one of the most marginal environments in earth. Equally, if we put you into the Australian outback, you wouldnt be able to tell your dick from the ground after a day and would be begging for help in short order as you die a slow, horrible death dehydration and starbation. Meanwhile, the Australian Aboriginals have existed in the area for 40,000 years. So tell me who is the idiot there? Simply put, the form of culiture Europeans ascribed to would ne a death knell in the ecosystems that Aboroginals survived in.

[The Hyacinth Flower]

oh so ppl are racist bc of blm? when there was a rise of lynchings in the jim crow era was blm protesting in ferguson? couldnt it bc bc people are racist and apply fake narratives to blm? even before blm existed as a formed organization?

At least the Civil Rights movement spoke out on an actual national threat to human civil rights of minorities. BLM is only advocating for a measly number of dead thugs (Michael Brown reaching out for Wilson's gun, etc.), and not black-on-black violence, which is a larger threat to black people. But we're staying off-topic here.

oh so a 12 year old being killed for having a toy gun somehow means hes a thug? isnt it far too common to have these ideas while white people who go out and murder mercilessly are met v pacifist action? your spouting anti-black narrative that is only founded in the politicization of evidence and facts, which again, can be easily disputed, and since i know ure going to be a wuss about it im not gonna comment further, make a new thread so i can post all of my sources

[Bannedbytomorrow]

You feel like providing a source for that debunking?

K.
A fascinating read.

The recent African origin of modern humans – also called the "Out of Africa" theory (OOA), recent single-origin hypothesis (RSOH), replacement hypothesis, or recent African origin model (RAO) – is, in paleoanthropology, the dominant model of the geographic origin and early migration of anatomically modern humans (Homo sapiens), which proposes a single area of origin for modern humans. According to this model, modern humans evolved in East Africa and then began to disperse throughout the world roughly 50,000 to 100,000 years ago. The single-origin hypothesis is cited as having the scientific consensus as of the mid-2000s.[1][2]

The major competing hypothesis of "recent single origin" has been the multiregional origin of modern humans, which envisions a wave of Homo sapiens migrating earlier from Africa and interbreeding with local Homo erectus populations in varied regions of the globe.[3][4]

In the 2010s, the discovery of evidence of archaic admixture of modern humans outside of Africa with Neanderthals and Denisovans has complicated the picture.[5] As of 2011, it appears likely that there were two waves of migration out of Africa. The first took place between 130,000–115,000 years ago via northern Africa,[6][7][8][9] and appears to have mostly died out or retreated (although there is some evidence of a presence of modern humans in China about 80,000 years ago).[10] A second dispersal took place via the so-called Southern Route, following the southern coastline of Asia, which led to the lasting colonization of Eurasia and Australia by around 50,000 years ago. The earliest evidence of humans in Australia is at least 65,000 years old[11]. Europe was populated by an early offshoot which settled the Near East and Europe (post-Toba hypothesis).[12][13]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recent_Af ... ern_humans

Alright? I don't recall ever stating that humans didn't originate in East Africa. You mind explaining how this debunks my hypothesis?

[Staniel]

I see you're dismissing the fact of whites being killed more than blacks and that black-on-black violence affects the black community more than measly police killing numbers.

I see you're throwing several red herrings at me.

And more black racial bias (not killings) is there due to BLM spouting hate toward all U.S. police, and because of that, police officers are being more cautious toward black people, especially in poor black communities.

[citation needed]

Because obviously racial bias only became a problem after BLM became a thing, not before.

Such victim blaming. Eww.

Hence why I said more. I realized that there was a black racial bias because of the "No Snitch/gang" culture" that plagues the black community to this day.

[Genivaria]

No fun for me, then. The argument I'm making is that all races of the world started from the same point, however, some races, like the Europeans and Asians, progressed, and greatly exceeded other races by building great works and empires, while other races, like sub-Saharan Africans, and Australian aboriginals, never reached the extent of progression from their starting point as the Europeans and Asians did, thus making the Europeans and Asians intellectually superior than other races.

You uh... do not know anything about pre-colonial history of Africa, then.

Also, the Aboriginals lived cut off from the entirety of the world forntems pf thousamds of years, and were living in one of the most marginal environments in earth. Equally, if we put you into the Australian outback, you wouldnt be able to tell your dick from the ground after a day and would be begging for help in short order as you die a slow, horrible death dehydration and starbation. Meanwhile, the Australian Aboriginals have existed in the area for 40,000 years. So tell who is the idiot there? Simply put, the form of culiture Europeans ascribed to would ne a death knell in the ecosystems that Aboroginals survived in.

Australia is a fucking Death World, fact.

[The Hyacinth Flower]

I see you're throwing several red herrings at me.


[citation needed]

Because obviously racial bias only became a problem after BLM became a thing, not before.

Such victim blaming. Eww.

Hence why I said more. I realized that there was a black racial bias because of the "No Snitch/gang" culture" that plagues the black community to this day.

are u a black person who has lived in a thug controlled by gangs? if not i dont think u can make broad claims about how gang culture is what plagues the black community and is the cause of racial bais

im gonna need sources

[Valrifell]

You uh... do not know anything about pre-colonial history of Africa, then.

Also, the Aboriginals lived cut off from the entirety of the world forntems pf thousamds of years, and were living in one of the most marginal environments in earth. Equally, if we put you into the Australian outback, you wouldnt be able to tell your dick from the ground after a day and would be begging for help in short order as you die a slow, horrible death dehydration and starbation. Meanwhile, the Australian Aboriginals have existed in the area for 40,000 years. So tell who is the idiot there? Simply put, the form of culiture Europeans ascribed to would ne a death knell in the ecosystems that Aboroginals survived in.

Australia is a fucking Death World, fact.

Why anyone would willingly live there is beyond me.

Just leave it to as it was meant to be. A playground for Mad Max enthusiasts.

[Washington Resistance Army]

I see you're throwing several red herrings at me.


[citation needed]

Because obviously racial bias only became a problem after BLM became a thing, not before.

Such victim blaming. Eww.

Hence why I said more. I realized that there was a black racial bias because of the "No Snitch/gang" culture" that plagues the black community to this day.

Snitches get stitches isn't unique to black communities, that's just seemingly an American thing at this point.

[Bannedbytomorrow]

No fun for me, then. The argument I'm making is that all races of the world started from the same point, however, some races, like the Europeans and Asians, progressed, and greatly exceeded other races by building great works and empires, while other races, like sub-Saharan Africans, and Australian aboriginals, never reached the extent of progression from their starting point as the Europeans and Asians did, thus making the Europeans and Asians intellectually superior than other races.

You uh... do not know anything about pre-colonial history of Africa, then.

Also, the Aboriginals lived cut off from the entirety of the world for tens pf thousands of years, and were living in one of the most marginal environments in earth. Equally, if we put you into the Australian outback, you wouldnt be able to tell your dick from the ground after a day and would be begging for help in short order as you die a slow, horrible death dehydration and starbation. Meanwhile, the Australian Aboriginals have existed in the area for 40,000 years. So tell who is the idiot there? Simply put, the form of culiture Europeans ascribed to would ne a death knell in the ecosystems that Aboroginals survived in.

Europe probably wasn't much better, considering that, since humans originated in East Africa, that they would be woefully unprepared for the freezing cold winters and massive forests. However, the Europeans did fine, so why didn't the Australians progress the way the Europeans did?

[Genivaria]

K.
A fascinating read.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recent_Af ... ern_humans

Alright? I don't recall ever stating that humans didn't originate in East Africa. You mind explaining how this debunks my hypothesis?

Your claim that some races were 'intellectually superior' based on race instead of say societal differences based on geography.

[Thermodolia]

This is just as stupid as the guy who believes that some races are genetically stupid. Saying that white privilege is the cause of all social ills is just as bad as saying that it's all the Jews fault. You're trying to find something to blame instead of fixing the actual problem.

no one is saying white privilege is the cause of all social inequality, if being confronted with this make you jump into these irrational conclusions i think more and more the concept of white fragility becomes more real in this thread

Dude I'm not white. I'm a mixed race American. It's not an irrational conclusion to think that LGBT kids being forced out of their homes has nothing to do with white privilege

[Valrifell]

You uh... do not know anything about pre-colonial history of Africa, then.

Also, the Aboriginals lived cut off from the entirety of the world for tens pf thousands of years, and were living in one of the most marginal environments in earth. Equally, if we put you into the Australian outback, you wouldnt be able to tell your dick from the ground after a day and would be begging for help in short order as you die a slow, horrible death dehydration and starbation. Meanwhile, the Australian Aboriginals have existed in the area for 40,000 years. So tell who is the idiot there? Simply put, the form of culiture Europeans ascribed to would ne a death knell in the ecosystems that Aboroginals survived in.

Europe probably wasn't much better, considering that, since humans originated in East Africa, that they would be woefully unprepared for the freezing cold winters and massive forests. However, the Europeans did fine, so why didn't the Australians progress the way the Europeans did?

Worth noting that your average man-thing had more hair covering more of its body at the time we were mobilizing out of Africa. Also, we interbred with the local, and always very attractive, Neanderthals who were more adapted to living in frigid climates.

[Liriena]

I see you're throwing several red herrings at me.


[citation needed]

Because obviously racial bias only became a problem after BLM became a thing, not before.

Such victim blaming. Eww.

Hence why I said more. I realized that there was a black racial bias because of the "No Snitch/gang" culture" that plagues the black community to this day.

You are still not holding law enforcement responsible for their own racial bias and actions.

[Thermodolia]

Hence why I said more. I realized that there was a black racial bias because of the "No Snitch/gang" culture" that plagues the black community to this day.

Snitches get stitches isn't unique to black communities, that's just seemingly an American thing at this point.

Back the blue comes to mind

[Soldati Senza Confini]

You uh... do not know anything about pre-colonial history of Africa, then.

Also, the Aboriginals lived cut off from the entirety of the world for tens pf thousands of years, and were living in one of the most marginal environments in earth. Equally, if we put you into the Australian outback, you wouldnt be able to tell your dick from the ground after a day and would be begging for help in short order as you die a slow, horrible death dehydration and starbation. Meanwhile, the Australian Aboriginals have existed in the area for 40,000 years. So tell who is the idiot there? Simply put, the form of culiture Europeans ascribed to would ne a death knell in the ecosystems that Aboroginals survived in.

Europe probably wasn't much better, considering that, since humans originated in East Africa, that they would be woefully unprepared for the freezing cold winters and massive forests. However, the Europeans did fine, so why didn't the Australians progress the way the Europeans did?

Because they did not need to.

Technology is not some achievement of civilization born in a vacuum. Technology is a result of trying to solve a problem that currently exists. Europeans probably got around the issues of the northern temperatures by either interbreeding with other closely related, viable species that could stand the cold, or worked around the problem technologically. That doesn't mean people did not die.

Or do you bother making shit you don't need?

[Genivaria]

You uh... do not know anything about pre-colonial history of Africa, then.

Also, the Aboriginals lived cut off from the entirety of the world for tens pf thousands of years, and were living in one of the most marginal environments in earth. Equally, if we put you into the Australian outback, you wouldnt be able to tell your dick from the ground after a day and would be begging for help in short order as you die a slow, horrible death dehydration and starbation. Meanwhile, the Australian Aboriginals have existed in the area for 40,000 years. So tell who is the idiot there? Simply put, the form of culiture Europeans ascribed to would ne a death knell in the ecosystems that Aboroginals survived in.

Europe probably wasn't much better, considering that, since humans originated in East Africa, that they would be woefully unprepared for the freezing cold winters and massive forests. However, the Europeans did fine, so why didn't the Australians progress the way the Europeans did?

By 'progress' I assume you mean like massive urban population centers and public works?
Because the geography of Australia was ill-suited for such.

Even now most urban population centers are sparse and found along the coast with some smatterings of small towns and villages further inland.

[The Hyacinth Flower]

no one is saying white privilege is the cause of all social inequality, if being confronted with this make you jump into these irrational conclusions i think more and more the concept of white fragility becomes more real in this thread

Dude I'm not white. I'm a mixed race American. It's not an irrational conclusion to think that LGBT kids being forced out of their homes has nothing to do with white privilege

it doesnt have anything to do with white privilege, you are the one who is making the irrational conclusion that mentioning privilege and white privilege means any from of oppression is a direct response to white privilege, this has things to do with straight privilege and cis privilege, besides being a mixed race latin means nothing, you can still be a white latin and have parents who are both white and black (like me) this further shows ur deep lack of understanding of racial relationships and power structures, maybe u should take a break from this one

[Washington Resistance Army]

Hence why I said more. I realized that there was a black racial bias because of the "No Snitch/gang" culture" that plagues the black community to this day.

are u a black person who has lived in a thug controlled by gangs? if not i dont think u can make broad claims about how gang culture is what plagues the black community and is the cause of racial bais

im gonna need sources

Gang culture is a pretty serious problem in all low income communities.

[Buffoonland]

This political cartoon and this thread are a match:
http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoon ... ist=GreenS

[Bannedbytomorrow]

Alright? I don't recall ever stating that humans didn't originate in East Africa. You mind explaining how this debunks my hypothesis?

Your claim that some races were 'intellectually superior' based on race instead of say societal differences based on geography.

Well, I'm certainly not denying that the geography and climate had an effect on the intelligence on its inhabitants. In my opinion, climate is one of the most important factors in a race's intelligence, because it is much, much easier to die from the cold than the heat. Consider this. Africa is a very warm place, only dropping to an average of 16 degrees Celsius during the coldest times in the year. The Africans can hunt and grow crops all year round, because it doesn't get too cold to do so. Meanwhile in Europe, during the cold winters, it is nearly impossible to grow crops, and many animals go into hibernation until the summer. Even if you can build a fire, or a shelter, you might still die from the cold. As a result, it is a lot easier to die in Europe than it is in Africa. Because of Europe's unforgiving climate, the less intelligent Europeans died off early, while the smarter ones survived, because they could survive the cold.

TLDR: The cold sped up the evolution of Asians and Europeans.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

.. like read anything abt this and ull find how what u siad was dumb, these supposed religious nuts arent working in a vacuum where they randomly decided that we should harm lgbt ppl
the reason they do this is bc theres a pre existing power structure that gives power to straight and cis people, hence they willingly accept religious condemnation of lgbt people,

This is just as stupid as the guy who believes that some races are genetically stupid. Saying that white privilege is the cause of all social ills is just as bad as saying that it's all the Jews fault. You're trying to find something to blame instead of fixing the actual problem.

Thing about white privilege is that it was originally meant to be an explanation for the social components that are problematic and the differences in culture and perception of the mainstream from different racial angles, same as other privileges like socioeconomic class, sexual orientation, and so on.

It doesn't mean there's a person or a race to blame, that's taking it too far, I'd agree.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Your claim that some races were 'intellectually superior' based on race instead of say societal differences based on geography.

Well, I'm certainly not denying that the geography and climate had an effect on the intelligence on its inhabitants. In my opinion, climate is one of the most important factors in a race's intelligence, because it is much, much easier to die from the cold than the heat. Consider this. Africa is a very warm place, only dropping to an average of 16 degrees Celsius during the coldest times in the year. The Africans can hunt and grow crops all year round, because it doesn't get too cold to do so. Meanwhile in Europe, during the cold winters, it is nearly impossible to grow crops, and many animals go into hibernation until the summer. Even if you can build a fire, or a shelter, you might still die from the cold. As a result, it is a lot easier to die in Europe than it is in Africa. Because of Europe's unforgiving climate, the less intelligent Europeans died off early, while the smarter ones survived, because they could survive the cold.

TLDR: The cold sped up the evolution of Asians and Europeans.

There hasn't really been much of an "evolution", per se, as much as there was adaptation.

Europeans and Asians could simply adapt better to the cold. But that doesn't necessarily explain IQ completely, that because Europe was cold and Africa was warm, that this means Africans are less intelligent than Europeans.

[The Hyacinth Flower]

are u a black person who has lived in a thug controlled by gangs? if not i dont think u can make broad claims about how gang culture is what plagues the black community and is the cause of racial bais

im gonna need sources

Gang culture is a pretty serious problem in all low income communities.

ok thanks, sources that gang culture causes white people to become prejudiced instead of pre existing prejudices and sterotypes based on archetypes of race?

[Genivaria]

Your claim that some races were 'intellectually superior' based on race instead of say societal differences based on geography.

Well, I'm certainly not denying that the geography and climate had an effect on the intelligence on its inhabitants. In my opinion, climate is one of the most important factors in a race's intelligence, because it is much, much easier to die from the cold than the heat. Consider this. Africa is a very warm place, only dropping to an average of 16 degrees Celsius during the coldest times in the year. The Africans can hunt and grow crops all year round, because it doesn't get too cold to do so. Meanwhile in Europe, during the cold winters, it is nearly impossible to grow crops, and many animals go into hibernation until the summer. Even if you can build a fire, or a shelter, you might still die from the cold. As a result, it is a lot easier to die in Europe than it is in Africa. Because of Europe's unforgiving climate, the less intelligent Europeans died off early, while the smarter ones survived, because they could survive the cold.

TLDR: The cold sped up the evolution of Asians and Europeans.

I'm sorry back up.
Did you just claim that the African climate and geography is actually EASIER then European?
*full face-desk*

Civilization fucking FLOURISHED in Europe because of the temperate climate and abundant natural resources as well as several inland rivers.
HOW can you have this so backwards?

[Genivaria]

Well, I'm certainly not denying that the geography and climate had an effect on the intelligence on its inhabitants. In my opinion, climate is one of the most important factors in a race's intelligence, because it is much, much easier to die from the cold than the heat. Consider this. Africa is a very warm place, only dropping to an average of 16 degrees Celsius during the coldest times in the year. The Africans can hunt and grow crops all year round, because it doesn't get too cold to do so. Meanwhile in Europe, during the cold winters, it is nearly impossible to grow crops, and many animals go into hibernation until the summer. Even if you can build a fire, or a shelter, you might still die from the cold. As a result, it is a lot easier to die in Europe than it is in Africa. Because of Europe's unforgiving climate, the less intelligent Europeans died off early, while the smarter ones survived, because they could survive the cold.

TLDR: The cold sped up the evolution of Asians and Europeans.

There hasn't really been much of an "evolution", per se, as much as there was adaptation.

Europeans and Asians could simply adapt better to the cold. But that doesn't necessarily explain IQ completely, that because Europe was cold and Africa was warm, that this means Africans are less intelligent than Europeans.

There is no casual link that can be drawn between temperature and average intelligence no, it's a very strange assertion to make.