Charlottesville: Where Do We Go From Here?

[The Hyacinth Flower]

And how did those priests get smart enough to write those books?

From other Priests by being taught in monastic institutions.

dont forget cultural exchange with the persian empire

[Staniel]

Oh, my bad, I was refuting your argument about supposed "racial bias" toward blacks and police officers from the leftist media when everyone's involved in the police killings.

I didn't speak of police killings specifically, though.

And racial bias in law enforcement is real, as demonstrated by stuff like the Department of Justice's reports on Baltimore and Ferguson.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-doj-report-20160809-story.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2015/03/04/the-12-key-highlights-from-the-dojs-scathing-ferguson-report/?utm_term=.892d737d5221

I see you're dismissing the fact of whites being killed more than blacks and that black-on-black violence affects the black community more than measly police killing numbers.


And more black racial bias (not killings) is there due to BLM spouting hate toward all U.S. police and the black hostility result, and because of that, police officers are being more cautious toward black people, especially in poor black communities.

[Minoa]

Source: http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-virgin ... KKCN1AU0DC

Well, that didn't last long: Google has told The Daily Stormer to take their domain elsewhere. What next? Namecheap? Gandi.net? 1&1?

Doubtful on all possibilities: in my opinion the site is too dangerous especially in the wake of Charlottesville.

[Genivaria]

Color-coded by someone who's clearly gotten their understanding of empires from video games.

Yeah, okay, consider bringing a history book next time you go to Starbucks.

Starbucks is too expensive for my taste so I'm not sure what point you think you're making.
Your constant juvenile baiting does more to undermine you than anything else, you are aware of this right?

[Luminesa]

^ case in point.

Mind you, Luminesa, I'm not trying to be mean towards you or accuse you of anything... but that exact rhetoric is what I was talking about. The concept of "white privilege", in and of itself, has nothing to do with "demonizing" white people, having them "branded as evil" or "stepped-on" (and not to come off as dismissive or smug, but I find the idea that white people are "stepped-on" in the West, and specially in Western academia, ridiculous). No reasonable person who acknowledges the concept of "white privilege" expects you to apologize for your skin tone. The idea of white privilege is to identify, acknowledge and tackle the historic advantages we white people have enjoyed within a social, economic and political structure that has historically favored us to the detriment of others. It has nothing to do with our skin tone making us "evil".

I dunno, I had to read "Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack" for Anthropology. This is a cornerstone document for the "white privilege" argument, and essentially it's a massive rant-list. It doesn't come across to me as being "tolerant" of my skin-color. And as a result, I can't help but look at the argument, and at the people who say we should apologize for being white (they do exist), and be a fair bit annoyed.

[Genivaria]

And how did those priests get smart enough to write those books?

Humans are a continuously learning species as we have had that ability to pass knowledge on even without writing yet it just made things much quicker.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_o ... of_writing

And then the printing press became a thing and intellectualism EXPLODED!

[The Hyacinth Flower]

I didn't speak of police killings specifically, though.

And racial bias in law enforcement is real, as demonstrated by stuff like the Department of Justice's reports on Baltimore and Ferguson.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-doj-report-20160809-story.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2015/03/04/the-12-key-highlights-from-the-dojs-scathing-ferguson-report/?utm_term=.892d737d5221

I see you're dismissing the fact of whites being killed more than blacks and that black-on-black violence affects the black community more than measly police killing numbers.


And more black racial bias (not killings) is there due to BLM spouting hate toward all U.S. police, and because of that, police officers are being more cautious toward black people, especially in poor black communities.

oh so ppl are racist bc of blm? when there was a rise of lynchings in the jim crow era was blm protesting in ferguson? couldnt it bc bc people are racist and apply fake narratives to blm? even before blm existed as a formed organization?

[Bannedbytomorrow]

And how did those priests get smart enough to write those books?

Perhaps you could skip to whatever point you think you're making.
These are pretty basic facts that you seem ignorant of.

No fun for me, then. The argument I'm making is that all races of the world started from the same point, however, some races, like the Europeans and Asians, progressed, and greatly exceeded other races by building great works and empires, while other races, like sub-Saharan Africans, and Australian aboriginals, never reached the extent of progression from their starting point as the Europeans and Asians did, thus making the Europeans and Asians intellectually superior than other races.

[Seangoli]

From other Priests by being taught in monastic institutions.

dont forget cultural exchange with the persian empire

True. A signidicant amount of what created the modern world was developed in the Middle East. From complex mathematics, to the basis of modern medicine and sanitation, to the fundamental concept of civic systems that date back to Mesopotamia.

[Thermodolia]

LGBT kids being kicked out of their house has nothing to do with white privilege. Blame religious nuts for that one.

.. like read anything abt this and ull find how what u siad was dumb, these supposed religious nuts arent working in a vacuum where they randomly decided that we should harm lgbt ppl
the reason they do this is bc theres a pre existing power structure that gives power to straight and cis people, hence they willingly accept religious condemnation of lgbt people,

This is just as stupid as the guy who believes that some races are genetically stupid. Saying that white privilege is the cause of all social ills is just as bad as saying that it's all the Jews fault. You're trying to find something to blame instead of fixing the actual problem.

[Liriena]

I didn't speak of police killings specifically, though.

And racial bias in law enforcement is real, as demonstrated by stuff like the Department of Justice's reports on Baltimore and Ferguson.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-doj-report-20160809-story.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2015/03/04/the-12-key-highlights-from-the-dojs-scathing-ferguson-report/?utm_term=.892d737d5221

I see you're dismissing the fact of whites being killed more than blacks and that black-on-black violence affects the black community more than measly police killing numbers.

I see you're throwing several red herrings at me.

And more black racial bias (not killings) is there due to BLM spouting hate toward all U.S. police, and because of that, police officers are being more cautious toward black people, especially in poor black communities.

[citation needed]

Because obviously racial bias only became a problem after BLM became a thing, not before.

Such victim blaming. Eww.

[Bannedbytomorrow]

Yeah, okay, consider bringing a history book next time you go to Starbucks.

Starbucks is too expensive for my taste so I'm not sure what point you think you're making.
Your constant juvenile baiting does more to undermine you than anything else, you are aware of this right?

Right, because your posts are so much more thought-provoking.

[Thermodolia]

This seems to be turning into a "Human Origins, and Intellect" thread so maybe it should be split off?

Sounds good

[Genivaria]

Perhaps you could skip to whatever point you think you're making.
These are pretty basic facts that you seem ignorant of.

No fun for me, then. The argument I'm making is that all races of the world started from the same point, however, some races, like the Europeans and Asians, progressed, and greatly exceeded other races by building great works and empires, while other races, like sub-Saharan Africans, and Australian aboriginals, never reached the extent of progression from their starting point as the Europeans and Asians did, thus making the Europeans and Asians intellectually superior than other races.

That's certainly an amusing hypothesis that is debunked by our current understanding of anthropology and early human migration.
Or is the 'Out of Africa Theory' too 'PC' for you?

[The Hyacinth Flower]

Perhaps you could skip to whatever point you think you're making.
These are pretty basic facts that you seem ignorant of.

No fun for me, then. The argument I'm making is that all races of the world started from the same point, however, some races, like the Europeans and Asians, progressed, and greatly exceeded other races by building great works and empires, while other races, like sub-Saharan Africans, and Australian aboriginals, never reached the extent of progression from their starting point as the Europeans and Asians did, thus making the Europeans and Asians intellectually superior than other races.

hey , i already linked this, but the literal wikipedia article on race and intelect addressed this at the very end of the timeline, and this is a fake fact that ure pulling out of ur fake narrative, why are you so adamant on defending something that has been so continuously proven to be incorrect? is it bc it makes u feel better about urself? bc there nos rational explanation for that

[Bannedbytomorrow]

No fun for me, then. The argument I'm making is that all races of the world started from the same point, however, some races, like the Europeans and Asians, progressed, and greatly exceeded other races by building great works and empires, while other races, like sub-Saharan Africans, and Australian aboriginals, never reached the extent of progression from their starting point as the Europeans and Asians did, thus making the Europeans and Asians intellectually superior than other races.

That's certainly an amusing hypothesis that is debunked by our current understanding of anthropology and early human migration.
Or is the 'Out of Africa Theory' too 'PC' for you?

You feel like providing a source for that debunking?

[Genivaria]

Starbucks is too expensive for my taste so I'm not sure what point you think you're making.
Your constant juvenile baiting does more to undermine you than anything else, you are aware of this right?

Right, because your posts are so much more thought-provoking.

On occasion certainly, but I don't like to self-promote.

[Benuty]

No fun for me, then. The argument I'm making is that all races of the world started from the same point, however, some races, like the Europeans and Asians, progressed, and greatly exceeded other races by building great works and empires, while other races, like sub-Saharan Africans, and Australian aboriginals, never reached the extent of progression from their starting point as the Europeans and Asians did, thus making the Europeans and Asians intellectually superior than other races.

That's certainly an amusing hypothesis that is debunked by our current understanding of anthropology and early human migration.
Or is the 'Out of Africa Theory' too 'PC' for you?

I will say this if humanities relatives ever survived we would be so busy debating with Neanderthals over this issue it would be amusing.

[The Hyacinth Flower]

.. like read anything abt this and ull find how what u siad was dumb, these supposed religious nuts arent working in a vacuum where they randomly decided that we should harm lgbt ppl
the reason they do this is bc theres a pre existing power structure that gives power to straight and cis people, hence they willingly accept religious condemnation of lgbt people,

This is just as stupid as the guy who believes that some races are genetically stupid. Saying that white privilege is the cause of all social ills is just as bad as saying that it's all the Jews fault. You're trying to find something to blame instead of fixing the actual problem.

no one is saying white privilege is the cause of all social inequality, if being confronted with this make you jump into these irrational conclusions i think more and more the concept of white fragility becomes more real in this thread

[Staniel]

I see you're dismissing the fact of whites being killed more than blacks and that black-on-black violence affects the black community more than measly police killing numbers.


And more black racial bias (not killings) is there due to BLM spouting hate toward all U.S. police, and because of that, police officers are being more cautious toward black people, especially in poor black communities.

oh so ppl are racist bc of blm? when there was a rise of lynchings in the jim crow era was blm protesting in ferguson? couldnt it bc bc people are racist and apply fake narratives to blm? even before blm existed as a formed organization?

At least the Civil Rights movement spoke out on an actual national threat to human civil rights of minorities. BLM is only advocating for a measly number of dead thugs (Michael Brown reaching out for Wilson's gun, etc.), and not black-on-black violence, which is a larger threat to black people. But we're staying off-topic here.

[Genivaria]

That's certainly an amusing hypothesis that is debunked by our current understanding of anthropology and early human migration.
Or is the 'Out of Africa Theory' too 'PC' for you?

You feel like providing a source for that debunking?

K.
A fascinating read.

The recent African origin of modern humans – also called the "Out of Africa" theory (OOA), recent single-origin hypothesis (RSOH), replacement hypothesis, or recent African origin model (RAO) – is, in paleoanthropology, the dominant model of the geographic origin and early migration of anatomically modern humans (Homo sapiens), which proposes a single area of origin for modern humans. According to this model, modern humans evolved in East Africa and then began to disperse throughout the world roughly 50,000 to 100,000 years ago. The single-origin hypothesis is cited as having the scientific consensus as of the mid-2000s.[1][2]

The major competing hypothesis of "recent single origin" has been the multiregional origin of modern humans, which envisions a wave of Homo sapiens migrating earlier from Africa and interbreeding with local Homo erectus populations in varied regions of the globe.[3][4]

In the 2010s, the discovery of evidence of archaic admixture of modern humans outside of Africa with Neanderthals and Denisovans has complicated the picture.[5] As of 2011, it appears likely that there were two waves of migration out of Africa. The first took place between 130,000–115,000 years ago via northern Africa,[6][7][8][9] and appears to have mostly died out or retreated (although there is some evidence of a presence of modern humans in China about 80,000 years ago).[10] A second dispersal took place via the so-called Southern Route, following the southern coastline of Asia, which led to the lasting colonization of Eurasia and Australia by around 50,000 years ago. The earliest evidence of humans in Australia is at least 65,000 years old[11]. Europe was populated by an early offshoot which settled the Near East and Europe (post-Toba hypothesis).[12][13]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recent_Af ... ern_humans

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Mind you, Luminesa, I'm not trying to be mean towards you or accuse you of anything... but that exact rhetoric is what I was talking about. The concept of "white privilege", in and of itself, has nothing to do with "demonizing" white people, having them "branded as evil" or "stepped-on" (and not to come off as dismissive or smug, but I find the idea that white people are "stepped-on" in the West, and specially in Western academia, ridiculous). No reasonable person who acknowledges the concept of "white privilege" expects you to apologize for your skin tone. The idea of white privilege is to identify, acknowledge and tackle the historic advantages we white people have enjoyed within a social, economic and political structure that has historically favored us to the detriment of others. It has nothing to do with our skin tone making us "evil".

I dunno, I had to read "Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack" for Anthropology. This is a cornerstone document for the "white privilege" argument, and essentially it's a massive rant-list. It doesn't come across to me as being "tolerant" of my skin-color. And as a result, I can't help but look at the argument, and at the people who say we should apologize for being white (they do exist), and be a fair bit annoyed.

I don't know if I could call it a massive rant list as much as I'd call it self-reflection of how well off the author is.

She did make a list, but her list was the advantages she could reasonably perceive about her position in the racial scale.

In a way, I do understand where she is coming from, given I am in a higher socioeconomic scale and I have the same concerns about my position against that of poor people. That I do realize I have certain advantages in life given to me solely because of my class, and not because I am me. If we could say I was born with some sort of spoon in my mouth, golden being the best, and abode being the worst, I'd say I was born with a bronze and iron spoon in my mouth.

[Kekistonia]

>Trump condemns violence

"CONDEMN RACISM REEEEEEEE!"

>Trump condemns racism

"TOO LATE REEEEEEEE!"

Why is it so impossible to please liberals?

ok, ¨kekistionia¨

What's with the Diacritics around my nation's name?

[Liriena]

Mind you, Luminesa, I'm not trying to be mean towards you or accuse you of anything... but that exact rhetoric is what I was talking about. The concept of "white privilege", in and of itself, has nothing to do with "demonizing" white people, having them "branded as evil" or "stepped-on" (and not to come off as dismissive or smug, but I find the idea that white people are "stepped-on" in the West, and specially in Western academia, ridiculous). No reasonable person who acknowledges the concept of "white privilege" expects you to apologize for your skin tone. The idea of white privilege is to identify, acknowledge and tackle the historic advantages we white people have enjoyed within a social, economic and political structure that has historically favored us to the detriment of others. It has nothing to do with our skin tone making us "evil".

I dunno, I had to read "Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack" for Anthropology. This is a cornerstone document for the "white privilege" argument, and essentially it's a massive rant-list. It doesn't come across to me as being "tolerant" of my skin-color. And as a result, I can't help but look at the argument, and at the people who say we should apologize for being white (they do exist), and be a fair bit annoyed.

You feeling attacked by a critical work is understandable. We have all been there. The key is understanding that it's not, in fact, attacking you, but just bringing a critical eye to a part of us that we tend to ignore, and that makes us very uncomfortable to think of. Nobody likes the idea that some of the things they have taken for granted may in fact be the consequence of a historical injustice.

[Genivaria]

That's certainly an amusing hypothesis that is debunked by our current understanding of anthropology and early human migration.
Or is the 'Out of Africa Theory' too 'PC' for you?

I will say this if humanities relatives ever survived we would be so busy debating with Neanderthals over this issue it would be amusing.

I wonder how that would go.