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Postby Staniel » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:46 am

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Benuty wrote:There is a point when its gets to a certain level of ridiculousness like saying homeless whites are still privileged. To be honest I don't blame people getting angry when a concept pretty much becomes so overused to the point of a morbid joke. Experiencing a trigger used to be something serious, but now well those times have long since past.


Are you saying that a white man on welfare is not more privileged than Beyonce ? Imagine my shock.



LOL. The ignorance of facts that these libs have are humorous. :rofl:
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Postby Bannedbytomorrow » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:47 am

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Bannedbytomorrow wrote:Right, because the richest country in the world, Qatar, has the highest IQ on that list.
http://uk.businessinsider.com/the-riche ... 7-78407-28

Qatar also has one of the highest degrees of income inequality in the world and a tiny percentage of the ppl who live there are actually citizens soooo imma say there's some other issues going on there


but please, cherrypick more, this isn't tiresome at all

Please, make more statements without sources. I don't mind.
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Postby Benuty » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:47 am

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Benuty wrote:There is a point when its gets to a certain level of ridiculousness like saying homeless whites are still privileged. To be honest I don't blame people getting angry when a concept pretty much becomes so overused to the point of a morbid joke. Experiencing a trigger used to be something serious, but now well those times have long since past.

ok, but people claiming homeless whites are privileged isnt a controversial point, because it is accepted that they are disenfranchised bc of their lack of wealth, maybe u should try reading into this before forming uninformed opinions

When you claim regardless of disenfranchised status that they are still privileged regardless it is controversial. Maybe you should actually read my statement before assuming I made an uninformed opinion.
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Postby Liriena » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:48 am

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Liriena wrote:Your first article made it quite clear that anti-fascist protesters are not necessarily synonymous with antifa.


What kind of sense does that make? So by your logic, anti-cop black people are not necessarily synonymous with BLM, although the group is vehemently anti-cop, and that anti-cop black people (or most) certainly do SUPPORT BLM like DeRay McKesson.... :eyebrow:

Also, I had that article on to reiterate that Antifa WAS there in full force. The terrorist group has nationwide affiliations.

But your article didn't prove that "antifa" was in Charlottesville "in full force". It didn't even prove that they made up a significant portion of the counter-protesters. Also, antifa is not a "terrorist group".
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Postby Arkinesia » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:48 am

Thermodolia wrote:He kinda half assed it. It's generally not the best, especially when Nazis are involved, to half ass an condemnation of anything.

I get that Trump wasn't trying to rock the boat and just make a general statement but sometimes ya have to rock the boat.

Trump is a chickenshit, he's like a 13-year-old who will make all manner of crass jokes, but won't tell a friend of his that it looks like a lobotomized gremlin dressed him this morning when asked. It's no wonder he keeps divorcing people, he has the emotional maturity of a fetus.
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Postby Liriena » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:48 am

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Liriena wrote:You mean the concept with varying degrees of acceptance in academic circles that tends to trigger a lot of white fragility when brought up?

There is a point when its gets to a certain level of ridiculousness like saying homeless whites are still privileged. To be honest I don't blame people getting angry when a concept pretty much becomes so overused to the point of a morbid joke. Experiencing a trigger used to be something serious, but now well those times have long since past.

I hear ya.
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Postby The Hyacinth Flower » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:49 am

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Senkaku wrote:Qatar also has one of the highest degrees of income inequality in the world and a tiny percentage of the ppl who live there are actually citizens soooo imma say there's some other issues going on there


but please, cherrypick more, this isn't tiresome at all

Please, make more statements without sources. I don't mind.

hey dont forget to adress my comments, mr laissez fair capitalism

also https://www.theguardian.com/inequality/ ... -countries

its literally the first result, are you like, lost?

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Postby Bannedbytomorrow » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:49 am

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Bannedbytomorrow wrote:I can't say I do, but are you assuming that every human on this planet is equal genetically?

Certainly not, but I'm not the one trying to argue that some "races" are "genetically superior".

You putting "things" in "quotes" really "makes" you look "smarter." If there are not races that are superior to another, how come one race managed to dominate nearly the entire world?
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Postby Liriena » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:49 am

Staniel wrote:
Isentria wrote:
Are you saying that a white man on welfare is not more privileged than Beyonce ? Imagine my shock.



LOL. The ignorance of facts that these libs have are humorous. :rofl:

The ignorance of your adversaries' beliefs that you have is hilarious.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:50 am

Vassenor wrote:"It took Trump 3 days to denounce Nazis but he can fire back at Morning Joe before the show is even over."

Food for thought.

He denounced them days ago, it's just he wasn't specific enough for you.
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Postby Benuty » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:50 am

Liriena wrote:
Staniel wrote:
What kind of sense does that make? So by your logic, anti-cop black people are not necessarily synonymous with BLM, although the group is vehemently anti-cop, and that anti-cop black people (or most) certainly do SUPPORT BLM like DeRay McKesson.... :eyebrow:

If by "anti-cop" you mean "opposed to racial bias in law enforcement and the criminal justice system", then yes... although some citations would be appreciated for the underlined.

Being opposed to fascism doesn't automatically make you a member of an antifa group any more than being opposed to Hillary Clinton automatically made you a Republican.

At least we haven't seen something akin to the partisans of Italy running around in the city streets here. Then people might have a point about the antifa groups in the states being more than an annoyance of the unusual sorts.
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Postby Luminesa » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:50 am

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Yikes, people are still whimpering about the mythical "white privilege" debacle?

You mean the concept with varying degrees of acceptance in academic circles that tends to trigger a lot of white fragility when brought up?

Where is the "fragility" in being angry when an entire group of people are demonized based upon their skin, they're stepped-on and branded as evil by much of academia, and everything is said to be their fault? This didn't fly with black people or with Jews, why should it fly with white people? This sort of self-loathing that is perpetuated by academia, by places like HuffPo and Tumblr, and by people who continually apologize for being white (looking at you, Katy Perry) brews nothing but hatred and resentment.
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Postby The Hyacinth Flower » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:50 am

Benuty wrote:
The Hyacinth Flower wrote:ok, but people claiming homeless whites are privileged isnt a controversial point, because it is accepted that they are disenfranchised bc of their lack of wealth, maybe u should try reading into this before forming uninformed opinions

When you claim regardless of disenfranchised status that they are still privileged regardless is controversial. Maybe you should actually read my statement before assuming I made an uninformed opinion.

no one is claiming people are privileged ¨regardless¨ of their disenfranchisement, they are underprivileged because of it, but also would benefit in other situations, this is an already addressed issue and your lack of knowledge on this is in fact, proof, of ur misinformation.

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Postby Genivaria » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:51 am

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Liriena wrote:Certainly not, but I'm not the one trying to argue that some "races" are "genetically superior".

You putting "things" in "quotes" really "makes" you look "smarter." If there are not races that are superior to another, how come one race managed to dominate nearly the entire world?

And uh what alternative history have you been reading exactly?

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Bannedbytomorrow wrote:Please, make more statements without sources. I don't mind.

hey dont forget to adress my comments, mr laissez fair capitalism

also https://www.theguardian.com/inequality/ ... -countries

its literally the first result, are you like, lost?

I would but your typing makes it hard to read. I'll start addressing your points when they're not an eyesore.
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Postby Liriena » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:51 am

Bannedbytomorrow wrote:
Liriena wrote:Certainly not, but I'm not the one trying to argue that some "races" are "genetically superior".

You putting "things" in "quotes" really "makes" you look "smarter." If there are not races that are superior to another, how come one race managed to dominate nearly the entire world?

Loaded question is loaded. Present actual proof, not historically illiterate allusions.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:51 am

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Thermodolia wrote:Doesn't mean that one race is genetically stupid. Just means that those nations are poor and don't have access to education. IQ isn't permanent.

Wrong. IQ is heritable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0_NsS1Zdlk
Also, why don't you think they have access to education?

No it's not. IQ isn't inherited. It's just that two very intelligent parents will do everything for their kids to insure that they get into he best schools. This is not to say that poor or less intelligent parents don't try to do the same for their children.

Because poor nations generally don't have access to education. To them education is a luxury that they cannot afford.
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Postby Sovaal » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:52 am

Bannedbytomorrow wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Doesn't mean that one race is genetically stupid. Just means that those nations are poor and don't have access to education. IQ isn't permanent.

Wrong. IQ is heritable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0_NsS1Zdlk

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Also, why don't you think they have access to education?

Economic and political fallout of colonisation and subsequent de-colonisation process. Famines and diseases don't help either.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:52 am

Seangoli wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Doesn't mean that one race is genetically stupid. Just means that those nations are poor and don't have access to education. IQ isn't permanent.


Fun fact: something as small as having breakfast has been shown to have a major impact on the results of these tests. Among other things.

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Postby Liriena » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:53 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:"It took Trump 3 days to denounce Nazis but he can fire back at Morning Joe before the show is even over."

Food for thought.

He denounced them days ago, it's just he wasn't specific enough for you.

Even Jeff Sessions called the racist scum by what they truly are. Only Trump tried to play a "muh both sides" card and failed to call the racist scum by name. And as I pointed out before, this wasn't the first time he seemingly dog-whistled a lukewarm validation at racist scum.
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Liriena wrote:Certainly not, but I'm not the one trying to argue that some "races" are "genetically superior".

You putting "things" in "quotes" really "makes" you look "smarter." If there are not races that are superior to another, how come one race managed to dominate nearly the entire world?

I guess the mongols where just better horsemen.
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Postby Benuty » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:53 am

The Hyacinth Flower wrote:
Benuty wrote:When you claim regardless of disenfranchised status that they are still privileged regardless is controversial. Maybe you should actually read my statement before assuming I made an uninformed opinion.

no one is claiming people are privileged ¨regardless¨ of their disenfranchisement, they are underprivileged because of it, but also would benefit in other situations, this is an already addressed issue and your lack of knowledge on this is in fact, proof, of ur misinformation.

Yet they are when ignoring the basic fact the homeless are one of the most underprivileged, and ignored groups in the states. No one benefits from having spikes put on benches to stop people from sleeping on them or having people fined, and in some cases arrested for trying to organize feeding the homeless.
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Postby Bannedbytomorrow » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:53 am

Genivaria wrote:
Bannedbytomorrow wrote:You putting "things" in "quotes" really "makes" you look "smarter." If there are not races that are superior to another, how come one race managed to dominate nearly the entire world?

And uh what alternative history have you been reading exactly?

I know facts aren't your strong suit, but please, try a quick history lesson.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:54 am

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The Empire of Pretantia wrote:He denounced them days ago, it's just he wasn't specific enough for you.

Even Jeff Sessions called the racist scum by what they truly are. Only Trump tried to play a "muh both sides" card and failed to call the racist scum by name. And as I pointed out before, this wasn't the first time he seemingly dog-whistled a lukewarm validation at racist scum.

>Denounced both sides
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