Charlottesville: Where Do We Go From Here?

[Minoa]

Sources: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40927089 and https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... washington

BBC is reporting that Donald Trump has spoken out against racist violence, stating that:

Racism is evil and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans.

It appears journalists are still demanding clarity over whether Trump is firmly against the actions of neo-Nazis and white supremacists, and will remain so.

Refiled to reflect Guardian article.

[Lanoraie]

1. No you don't. If you did, you would post it.

2. Ebola, malaria, AIDS, Schistosomiasis, tuberculosis, guinea worm disease, etc.

3. The first stone tools, the first controlled fire, the Mali Empire, the Kingdom of Kush, the 25th dynasty of Egypt, Great Zimbabwe, Zanzibar and other East African trading cities, the Kanem Empire, etc.

Hey, all that malaria makes for a stronger gene!/s

Most of those are recent mutations. We're talking ye olde Africa. Furthermore, every place has shite diseases. Not an argument. And I did post evidence. Furthermore, this is about sub-Saharan Africa, not Northern and Eastern, who had plenty of cultural, technological, and genetic influence from the middle east. And for the kingdoms you mentioned that are in neither of those places, so what? Did they produce anything of substance beyond the first stone tools?

[Vulgar Bulgar]

Yes, which explains why Africa is home to 15% of the world’s population and 5% of the world’s GDP but accounts for just 1.3% of the globe’s investment in research and development (R&D), and less then 1% of global patents.

http://en.unesco.org/unesco_science_report

What does that have to do with IQ and intelligence?

Has the testosterone suppressors reduced your brain capacity?

[Republic of the Cristo]

I don't want to be that guy but,Where dey at doe?

There were several kingdoms and empires in pre-colonial Africa, mostly in the north-west.
What do you mean?


They're going to be small population centers not widespread Roman empires.

The west African states are all and fine, we are talking about sub-Saharan Africa. The Great Zimbabwe Empire was about 2000 years behind Europe and Asia in terms of technology ( judging by entry and exits into the iron age ) and left an amazing one abandoned city the size of a couple football fields.

Care to share on the many contributions of the lunda, Luba, and Kongo states?

[Genivaria]

Yes, there was. Sorry, I did mean to say towns and even cities, however the modern context of such things might've been misleading. There were certainly large towns and cities. But that too doesn't mean much of anything at all. For anyone, from any race, really. Great, you have a lot of people in one area. Congrats I guess?

Cities are a product of civilization, friendo.

B-but are they cities full of white people!? Gotcha!

[Vulgar Bulgar]

>Jews are a race

Huh. Strange. I thought you just said race doesn't exist, so how could he be possibly racist against someone who's the same as he is? And last time I checked, Jews were a religion, not a race. How can you be racist against a religion? Strange, indeed.

I can't be racist against a group that hold more power then myself, nor is Judaism a race.

The fact that these are the arguments that you resort to does more to condemn you than anything I could say.

In what way.

[Lanoraie]

Yes, there was. Sorry, I did mean to say towns and even cities, however the modern context of such things might've been misleading. There were certainly large towns and cities. But that too doesn't mean much of anything at all. For anyone, from any race, really. Great, you have a lot of people in one area. Congrats I guess?

Cities are a product of civilization, friendo.

Civilization =/= technological/cultural advancements, friendo.

[Valrifell]

Doesn't IQ just measure how good you are at the IQ test though?

Yes, which explains why Africa is home to 15% of the world’s population and 5% of the world’s GDP but accounts for just 1.3% of the globe’s investment in research and development (R&D), and less then 1% of global patents.

http://en.unesco.org/unesco_science_report

You're aware that 5% of the global GDP split among the nations of Africa (57) equates to an average of less than a tenth of a percent. Having an entire continent have about the same wealth as Germany means they're all very very poor.

[Genivaria]

There were several kingdoms and empires in pre-colonial Africa, mostly in the north-west.
What do you mean?

They're going to be small population centers not widespread Roman empires.

The west African states are all and fine, we are talking about sub-Saharan Africa. The Great Zimbabwe Empire was about 2000 years behind Europe and Asia in terms of technology ( judging by entry and exits into the iron age ) and left an amazing one abandoned city the size of a couple football fields.

Care to share on the many contributions of the lunda, Luba, and Kongo states?

Again, I don't know what you mean by 'contributions'.

[Aellex]

That is blatantly untrue. For starters there was the Kingdom of Kongo, whose capital city when contacted by the Portuguese, was compared in size to Evora, which at the time was a major city for Portugal.

And the one of Mali too that was important enough not only to be cartographied but also to have his King represented with a "Fleur-de-Lys" (it may not sounds big but the symbolic is actually very important here) in a 14th century Atlas.

[The Hyacinth Flower]

Doesn't IQ just measure how good you are at the IQ test though?

Yes, which explains why Africa is home to 15% of the world’s population and 5% of the world’s GDP but accounts for just 1.3% of the globe’s investment in research and development (R&D), and less then 1% of global patents.

http://en.unesco.org/unesco_science_report

also this

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar ... 7312005843

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/scien ... 25911.html (this is a resume of that article)

idk why these racists dont understand when people say these things are ¨scientifically proven to be wrong¨ its almost as if that doesnt matter to them because providing for an imagined safety and defending their purity which grants them a false sense of power is a complitely irrational position to take

[Sovaal]

Yes, which explains why Africa is home to 15% of the world’s population and 5% of the world’s GDP but accounts for just 1.3% of the globe’s investment in research and development (R&D), and less then 1% of global patents.

http://en.unesco.org/unesco_science_report

What does that have to do with IQ and intelligence?

Since obviously that the African nations have less of the infrastructure in place to help support the intelligent they are some how inferior apes or something.

[Vassenor]

What does that have to do with IQ and intelligence?

Has the testosterone suppressors reduced your brain capacity?

That doesn't answer my question.

[Genivaria]

Cities are a product of civilization, friendo.

Civilization =/= technological/cultural advancements, friendo.

Come back here with that goal-post.

[Utceforp]

Ah so you accept it because it supports your racist agenda, thanks for that.

>Jews are a race

Huh. Strange. I thought you just said race doesn't exist, so how could he be possibly racist against someone who's the same as he is? And last time I checked, Jews were a religion, not a race. How can you be racist against a religion? Strange, indeed.

"Jews" are as much a race as "Africans" are. The whole thing is irrational. In any case, even if you're right and your statement technically doesn't make you racist, it does still make you a bigoted asshole.

[Pasong Tirad]

lo, thier is nothing wrong with President Trump's statement on the Charlottesville incident, as the leftist media and CNN is reporting, source CNN:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/12/politics/ ... index.html

Yes, Cuban man, please tell us all about how the "Christian" white supremacists (who worship a Jew - the closest similarity they have with Him is that the said Jew was persecuted by white Europeans) are somehow not wrong.

[Lanoraie]

Has the testosterone suppressors reduced your brain capacity?

Made me laugh.

[Napkiraly]

That is blatantly untrue. For starters there was the Kingdom of Kongo, whose capital city when contacted by the Portuguese, was compared in size to Evora, which at the time was a major city for Portugal.

Tell us more about all the contributions of the Kingdom of Kongo...

The claim that there were no civilizations in Africa, not how relevant or developed they were.

[Geilinor]

Doesn't IQ just measure how good you are at the IQ test though?

Yes, which explains why Africa is home to 15% of the world’s population and 5% of the world’s GDP but accounts for just 1.3% of the globe’s investment in research and development (R&D), and less then 1% of global patents.

http://en.unesco.org/unesco_science_report

IQ does not measure how good you are at filing patents, which is difficult to do without an organization to fund your research.

[Aellex]

Again, I don't know what you mean by 'contributions'.

I suppose that he means any achievement of tangible importance which seems rather easy to both define and provide.

[Sovaal]

Cities are a product of civilization, friendo.

Civilization =/= technological/cultural advancements, friendo.

You need civilisation for a city to pop up.

[Genivaria]

That is blatantly untrue. For starters there was the Kingdom of Kongo, whose capital city when contacted by the Portuguese, was compared in size to Evora, which at the time was a major city for Portugal.

And the one of Mali too that was important enough not only to be cartographied but also to have his King represented with a "Fleur-de-Lys" (it may not sounds big but the symbolic is actually very important here) in a 14th century Atlas.

*added to list of Interesting Shit I didn't Know*

[Lanoraie]

Tell us more about all the contributions of the Kingdom of Kongo...

The claim that there was no civilization in Africa, not how relevant they were.

You got me there. My apologies, I meant how relevant they were to the advancement of the human race and comparisons to the contributions whites and asians have made. Which they objectively have contributed far more.

[Republic of the Cristo]

Tell us more about all the contributions of the Kingdom of Kongo...

What does this post mean?

You posit that there is no real intellectual difference between Sub-Saharan peoples and European/Middle Eastern/Asian peoples. Well then this should be easily seen in the civilizations that they build.

Egypt gave us magnificent architecture which has lasted four thousands of years as well as organized religion - China created arguably the greatest multi-ethnic empire in human history as well as gunpowder - The United Kingdom pretty much invented modern industry.

What did the Kingdom of Kongo do?

[The Free and Rowdy]

Has the testosterone suppressors reduced your brain capacity?

That doesn't answer my question.

How to argue like a right winger:
1. Insult someones Masculinity/Beliefs/Argument
2. Make no argument
3. ???
4. Profit