Charlottesville: Where Do We Go From Here?

[Cedoria]

But if they ARE Nazis and Fascists, is it not justified?

Hell if it's not, I'd hate too see what you think about World War II.

simply being a fascist/Nazi isn't justification under the law to assault someone.

But it is perhaps a moral justification.

Speak approvingly about genocide and race murder in my hearing, and I'm not really inclined to give a fuck about what the law says. Sure, they can say that if they wish, but unless they want a fist in the face I recommend they don't. They want political violence so badly, we should be here too help. That's fair, especially if it's not like we're killing em or throwing them in camps, a little whack in the face is the least we should do.

[The Hyacinth Flower]

Also, there's no justification he's Fascist or Nazi, unless there's evidence.

indeed

isnt the fact that he rammed into protestors that chanted ¨black lives matter¨ with his car not evidence enough that hes a nazi?

[Kekistonia]

The counter-protesters started it. That makes them the source of the violence, which he rightly condemned.

¨Mommy, my brother told me i shouldnt turn off his tv while hes watching it, so i stabbed him in the chest, but he started it tho!¨

Nice mental gymnastics.

[Kash Island]

simply being a fascist/Nazi isn't justification under the law to assault someone.

But it is perhaps a moral justification.

Speak approvingly about genocide and race murder in my hearing, and I'm not really inclined to give a fuck about what the law says. Sure, they can say that if they wish, but unless they want a fist in the face I recommend they don't. They want political violence so badly, we should be here too help. That's fair, especially if it's not like we're killing em or throwing them in camps, a little whack in the face is the least we should do.

YOUR moral justification maybe, not the laws justification.

[Gim]

indeed

isnt the fact that he rammed into protestors that chanted ¨black lives matter¨ with his care not evidence enough that hes a nazi?

What do black lives have to do with Nazism?

[Cedoria]

simply being a fascist/Nazi isn't justification under the law to assault someone.

Also, there's no justification he's Fascist or Nazi, unless there's evidence.

I agree you should constrain this tactic too ACTUAL Nazis. But in this circumstance, there's plenty of evidence too suggest that 'Nazi' is an accurate descriptor for most of the people at that rally (Don't try and say David Duke can't be classed as one, because he is one).

There's a reason we're throwing the word Nazi around too describe this rally, because there were actual Nazis there...

[Kash Island]

indeed

isnt the fact that he rammed into protestors that chanted ¨black lives matter¨ with his care not evidence enough that hes a nazi?

no, he could just hate people on the left or hes just a plain racist while not being a national socialist, a plethora of reasons.

[Kash Island]

Also, there's no justification he's Fascist or Nazi, unless there's evidence.

I agree you should constrain this tactic too ACTUAL Nazis. But in this circumstance, there's plenty of evidence too suggest that 'Nazi' is an accurate descriptor for most of the people at that rally (Don't try and say David Duke can't be classed as one, because he is one).

There's a reason we're throwing the word Nazi around too describe this rally, because there were actual Nazis there...

who is WE?

[Gim]

I agree you should constrain this tactic too ACTUAL Nazis. But in this circumstance, there's plenty of evidence too suggest that 'Nazi' is an accurate descriptor for most of the people at that rally (Don't try and say David Duke can't be classed as one, because he is one).

There's a reason we're throwing the word Nazi around too describe this rally, because there were actual Nazis there...

who is WE?

Most people, I guess.

[The Kolam Brotherhood]

isnt the fact that he rammed into protestors that chanted ¨black lives matter¨ with his care not evidence enough that hes a nazi?

no, he could just hate people on the left or hes just a plain racist while not being a national socialist, a plethora of reasons.

Or he is mentally ill (not because he is a white supremacist)

[Kash Island]

no, he could just hate people on the left or hes just a plain racist while not being a national socialist, a plethora of reasons.

Or he is mentally ill (not because he is a white supremacist)

possible, we don't know for sure until we get more information.

[Gim]

no, he could just hate people on the left or hes just a plain racist while not being a national socialist, a plethora of reasons.

Or he is mentally ill (not because he is a white supremacist)

True.

[The Hyacinth Flower]

isnt the fact that he rammed into protestors that chanted ¨black lives matter¨ with his care not evidence enough that hes a nazi?

What do black lives have to do with Nazism?

nazis hate BLM because of their idea that black people are inferior/dont deserve recognition of their status as second class citizens bc they deserve it or because they are not ¨fit¨ of full citizenship like the ¨civilized, moral whites¨ to have black people fight for rights which they dont deserve is absurd to them. i think theres a strong link between thinking the white race is superior and hating black people who organize for their rights

[Cedoria]

isnt the fact that he rammed into protestors that chanted ¨black lives matter¨ with his care not evidence enough that hes a nazi?

no, he could just hate people on the left or hes just a plain racist while not being a national socialist, a plethora of reasons.

Pretty hard too distinguish those two things too be honest.

If the jackboot fits...

[USHALLNOTPASS]

Civilian "collateral" deaths?

"wrong place wrong time"

conscription?

[The Kolam Brotherhood]

no, he could just hate people on the left or hes just a plain racist while not being a national socialist, a plethora of reasons.

Pretty hard too distinguish those two things too be honest.

If the jackboot fits...

Wew lad

[Kash Island]

no, he could just hate people on the left or hes just a plain racist while not being a national socialist, a plethora of reasons.

Pretty hard too distinguish those two things too be honest.

If the jackboot fits...

i mean if the jackboot fits then I guess I can start hitting communists when I find them right?

[Gim]

What do black lives have to do with Nazism?

nazis hate BLM because of their idea that black people are inferior/dont deserve recognition of their status as second class citizens bc they deserve it or because they are not ¨fit¨ of full citizenship like the ¨civilized, moral whites¨ to have black people fight for rights which they dont deserve is absurd to them. i think theres a strong link between thinking the white race is superior and hating black people who organize for their rights

Oh, you mean there's evidence the protestors are national socialists?

[Cedoria]

no, he could just hate people on the left or hes just a plain racist while not being a national socialist, a plethora of reasons.

Or he is mentally ill (not because he is a white supremacist)

Neither of those things are mutually incompatible with National Socialism. In fact, many would say that they enhance the chances of being one.

[Bombadil]

Or he is mentally ill (not because he is a white supremacist)

True.

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To be honest, a lot of whatever or who he is doesn't really matter too much, but we all know how this plays out.. on one side he's a terrorist and on the other he's a loner with mental issues.

Took longer than I expected..

[The Hyacinth Flower]

Or he is mentally ill (not because he is a white supremacist)

possible, we don't know for sure until we get more information.

haha hey remember when ppl claimed dylan roof was mentally ill? and also almost every racially based mass shooter during the shooting epidemic? i wonder why.

[Gim]

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[Cedoria]

nazis hate BLM because of their idea that black people are inferior/dont deserve recognition of their status as second class citizens bc they deserve it or because they are not ¨fit¨ of full citizenship like the ¨civilized, moral whites¨ to have black people fight for rights which they dont deserve is absurd to them. i think theres a strong link between thinking the white race is superior and hating black people who organize for their rights

Oh, you mean there's evidence the protestors are national socialists?

David Duke was a key figure in the protest. So yes.

Seriously, this attempt to justify the violence by feigning ignorance of the fact that it was attended by very well-known and public white supremacist and neo-nazi figures by some on this forum is pathetic. Grow up, we're calling them Nazis because they are.

[Kash Island]

possible, we don't know for sure until we get more information.

haha hey remember when ppl claimed dylan roof was mentally ill? and also almost every racially based mass shooter during the shooting epidemic? i wonder why.

I don't know all that much about Dylan Roof other than he was a disturbed, racist piece of crap and I wish someone could have exercised their 2nd amendment right before he was able to get away with so many deaths. Very sad event.

[Kash Island]

Oh, you mean there's evidence the protestors are national socialists?

David Duke was a key figure in the protest. So yes.

Seriously, this attempt to justify the violence by feigning ignorance of the fact that it was attended by very well-known and public white supremacist and neo-nazi figures by some on this forum is pathetic. Grow up, we're calling them Nazis because they are.

WHO IS JUSTIFYING VIOLENCE?