Charlottesville: Where Do We Go From Here?

[Ostroeuropa]

It sounds like hell on earth to me.

If we can purge the extremists on both sides, and focus on improving the welfare of the ordinary citizen, I imagine that such a system will probably be in the best interests of a majority of the population. Especially if it is ruled by a benevolent dictator.

The benevolent do not wish to dictate.

[Lamerika]

So basically your only stance would be "we are going to deport everyone with a stance"

Only those that harm the republic.

Who would decide what is harmful and what isn't?

[Sovaal]

But it wasn't a major change. That's the whole point.


They don't "get along". Macron plays the part for Trump's petty enjoyment. He doesn't like him nor does he respect him, but he invites him over and is cordial to him because whether one likes it or not, the illiterati are leading the world's superpower.

I like that word. Sounds like a conspiracy by idiots.

So you mean your average conspiracy theorist?

Anyway, last time I checked I was literate.

[Proctopeo]

If we can purge the extremists on both sides, and focus on improving the welfare of the ordinary citizen, I imagine that such a system will probably be in the best interests of a majority of the population. Especially if it is ruled by a benevolent dictator.

It's kind of difficult for a country to work in the interests of the population if it's not ruled by the population, no?

I can agree there.
We need an inoffensive centrist democracy.

[Olerand]

But it wasn't a major change. That's the whole point.


They don't "get along". Macron plays the part for Trump's petty enjoyment. He doesn't like him nor does he respect him, but he invites him over and is cordial to him because whether one likes it or not, the illiterati are leading the world's superpower.

I like that word. Sounds like a conspiracy by idiots.

And never has it been more pertinent.

[United Christian]

VA Officials are basically saying, fuck you, ya nazi motherfuckers. Now Trump, you basically caused this, what do you have to say?

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

That's actually really sad. These same people flipped out when CNN threatened to doxx a "kid" (in reality, a grown adult) and are now spreading fake information about an actual kid killing people. Really makes one lose faith in humanity.

Time for a centrist dictatorship to rid the nation of the far right and far left.

I'd be ok with a centrist democracy that only centrist.

Center left, center, center right, and center libertarians (if such a thing exists).

Thats it.

No extremes, just center.

[Badger Industries]

So basically your only stance would be "we are going to deport everyone with a stance"

Oh look, this meme

Pretty good deflection, eh? You laugh but centrist belief lacks any sort of substantial substance, the kind of substance it takes to unite and properly run a country. You laugh but when a country choses to remain stagnant in the interests of "centrism" it is failing its people.

[Genivaria]

Only those that harm the republic.

Who would decide what is harmful and what isn't?

People with common fucking sense I'd imagine, people who drive into crowds aren't among them.

[Valrifell]

It's kind of difficult for a country to work in the interests of the population if it's not ruled by the population, no?

I can agree there.
We need an inoffensive centrist democracy.

You know the joke in that is that a government of that type displeases everyone on both sides, right?

[The Palmetto]

It sounds like hell on earth to me.

If we can purge the extremists on both sides, and focus on improving the welfare of the ordinary citizen, I imagine that such a system will probably be in the best interests of a majority of the population. Especially if it is ruled by a benevolent dictator.

The only way to have true centrism is to kill everyone and declare anarchy. 0 laws = 0 bias.

[Risottia]

UPDATE: At least one dead from this assault. Attacker identified as a known white supremacist.

Hence, not terrorism. It is well known that only Muslims and commies can be terrorists.

[Napkiraly]

*Mussolini intensifies*

Why are you dissing Franco?

>Not Primo de Rivera.
Why even bother then?

[Thermodolia]

A centrist dictatorship does sound nice, to be honest.

Until said dictator starts killing any political dissident.

I would do no such thing. They are being relocated to an island

[The East Marches II]

Why are you dissing Franco?

>Not Primo de Rivera.
Why even bother then?

Primo de Rivera is a fascinating character, I was recently rereading a book on the matter. Very underrated tbh.

[Thermodolia]

Only those that harm the republic.

Who would decide what is harmful and what isn't?

Me and TEM obviously

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Oh look, this meme

Pretty good deflection, eh? You laugh but centrist belief lacks any sort of substantial substance, the kind of substance it takes to unite and properly run a country. You laugh but when a country choses to remain stagnant in the interests of "centrism" it is failing its people.

"These people want to give free money away. These people want everyone to fend for themselves. How about we give some of the people some of the money?"

In a nutshell for you.

[Computer Lab]

Honestly this thing hit really close to me, I live pretty near to Charlottesville, and I have been planning on attending UVA for a couple years. I'm a pretty liberal person and I don't hide that and in my hometown, it's never been a big issue. But it's stuff like this that makes me hesitant to attend UVA or any other college in the South as I'm not the type of person to repress my beliefs or muzzle my voice.

Honestly I don't think the statue of Lee should be removed necessarily as he, although being the lead general of the south, wasn't a major supporter of slavery (might be confusing him with Stonewall Jackson)

I live in West Virginia, and many of our locations are named after Stonewall Jackson, (another Confederate general) because he was a West Virginian technically. I am against changing the names of our locations and the removal of the statue as they are destroying a little too much. The civil war did happen and we have to recognize that, the difference (in my opinion) of the confederate flag and statues/place names is that these things are named after notable people, they aren't about racism or "southern pride" or whatever, but the fact that so many radicals are rallying behind it makes me wonder if it staying would send a bad message

So i guess in summary, I'm scared and conflicted about how I feel about this

As someone who goes to school in the South, don't worry about being pretty liberal at UVA or any college. Universities/Colleges are more likely to be anti-conservative than anti-liberal unless you go to a fundamentalist Christian school.

[Sovaal]

Nor would yours be any better, and would go against the aims of the American government at the time.


Nor is change always good. And sometimes things don't change at all.

It would have suppressed the South. Objectively, in the eyes of History, we wouldn't be here if the South had been successfully suppressed.

Certainly, change is not inherently good. You need a balance. Not too much change (like Sweden), nor too little (like America).

I don't know about that, the Union was hardly filled to the brim with people of the progressive persuasion. In fact, when the second Klan arised in the 1920's, Indiana, a decidedly Union state during the war, was a hot spot for their activity.

[Genivaria]

Who would decide what is harmful and what isn't?

Me and TEM obviously

If I had to pick someone on the right it would be WRA tbh.
Or CM....actually I'm not sure where he is exactly on the scale.

[Olerand]

What? What does this sentence even mean?

And I at least have the right to an education and survival beyond basic illness. It's in my Constitution. I wish many Americans wish theirs had that too.

I bet your French wished their weren't arrested for wrongthink. Listen, you can live in an authoritarian state, we freedom lovers won't fault you for it but try to limit yourselves to France.

Sucks for them.

I'm sure you wouldn't want what we have. And that's why we have threads like this.

I like that word. Sounds like a conspiracy by idiots.

So you mean your average conspiracy theorist?

Anyway, last time I checked I was literate.

You work in the White House? Can you pass a word on to Trump?

Illiterati: https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/illiterati

It's kind of difficult for a country to work in the interests of the population if it's not ruled by the population, no?

I can agree there.
We need an inoffensive centrist democracy.

You have a centrist democracy, at least institutionally. And it is quite offensive, because... Its handlers are so.

Also, inoffensive is subjective.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

The people in the helicopter died apparently: https://twitter.com/Variety/status/896496602633781248

[Proctopeo]

Oh look, this meme

Pretty good deflection, eh? You laugh but centrist belief lacks any sort of substantial substance, the kind of substance it takes to unite and properly run a country. You laugh but when a country choses to remain stagnant in the interests of "centrism" it is failing its people.

When someone believes this, it's not worth trying to convince them.
The trick is to walk away and tally up how many people think this, by their political affiliation, and look for any patterns.

I can agree there.
We need an inoffensive centrist democracy.

You know the joke in that is that a government of that type displeases everyone on both sides, right?

Their actions to shift it to one political extreme cancel each other out!

[Sovaal]

Until said dictator starts killing any political dissident.

I would do no such thing. They are being relocated to an island

And given free lead injections?

[Thermodolia]

The people in the helicopter died apparently: https://twitter.com/Variety/status/896496602633781248

Fuck