Charlottesville: Where Do We Go From Here?

[Liriena]

This story about these statues are the funniest thing... This man led an army that killed Americans... And yet, he has a statue in front of buildings in America, and Americans marching to defend him.

America...

The Confederates were American, too.

They were also traitors who explicitly founded a rogue state for the purposes of defending the institution of slavery.

[Thermodolia]

Also why shouldn't we consider an ideology responsible for the systematic murder of between six and eleven million people (if not more) to be evil?

So what you're saying is that we should commend the Charlottesville driver as a hero fighting against communist ideologues? Perhaps we should put his Challenger in a museum.

What?

[United Muscovite Nations]

Thanks the for the quick rundowns, guys; I was seeing conflicting accounts from a Skype friend and facebook live feed, and didn't know which one was accurate.

[Nexus of All Realities]

You're being disingenuous and you know it.

It's called sarcasm.

I'm referring back to the original post of his that led to that crap.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

This story about these statues are the funniest thing... This man led an army that killed Americans... And yet, he has a statue in front of buildings in America, and Americans marching to defend him.

America...

The Confederates were American, too.

They weren't very good ones, however.

This story about these statues are the funniest thing... This man led an army that killed Americans... And yet, he has a statue in front of buildings in America, and Americans marching to defend him.

America...

To be fair, and playing the devil's advocate here, we do have statues of Danton and Robespierre despite both of them killing more Frenchmen than they ever did foreigners.

I know what I must do for your country

[Olerand]

Okay guys, I've been out on a boat with no internet for the last 5 hours. Can someone give me a tl;dr? Was it alt right attacking left wingers or the other way around?

Alt-rightist on progressive violence, so far it appears.

[Thermodolia]

So White is in Scotland and the American Deep South? Sounds about right.

You're being disingenuous and you know it.

Dude Scotland is where we got the whole fried food thing.

[Empire of Cats]

Well, Trump pulled a Trump and refused to condemn the KKK and white nationalism after his press conference...

[The Empire of Pretantia]

It's called sarcasm.

I'm referring back to the original post of his that led to that crap.

Maybe you should've quoted it then.

[Izirag]

Muh stereotyping.

Muh spineless-ness.

Muh historical reference.

"...The followers must feel humiliated by the ostentatious wealth and force of their enemies. When I was a boy I was taught to think of Englishmen as the five-meal people. They ate more frequently than the poor but sober Italians. Jews are rich and help each other through a secret web of mutual assistance. However, the followers must be convinced that they can overwhelm the enemies. Thus, by a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak. Fascist governments are condemned to lose wars because they are constitutionally incapable of objectively evaluating the force of the enemy."

No, I understand the force of the enemy. Nor, do I classify myself as fascist. Once again, muh stereotyping. Do you not understand? You are my enemy, your lack of originality is exactly the type of thing that is pervading this world today. You keep trying to put me with a label and that is the type of anti-intellectual sentiment I hate that has fostered this mediocre society.

[Thermodolia]

This story about these statues are the funniest thing... This man led an army that killed Americans... And yet, he has a statue in front of buildings in America, and Americans marching to defend him.

America...

The Confederates were American, too.

No they where traitors

[Vassenor]

Well, Trump pulled a Trump and refused to condemn the KKK and white nationalism after his press conference...

And stormed offstage when someone in the press pit tried to get him to.

[Olerand]

I don't know what that means. Boring?

Neither in Education, Employment nor Training, the term is closely associated with neckbeards.
I'm merely having a jape at the fact that he spent most of his life leeching from Hegel while doing jack-shit, even refusing the jobs he offered him.

Excuse me! He leeched off of Engels, Friedrich Engels. Not Hegel. Leave Hegel alone.

[Liriena]

Well, Trump pulled a Trump and refused to condemn the KKK and white nationalism after his press conference...

Well, he is running for reelection in 2020. Wouldn't want to alienate his base before that.

[Licana]

So what you're saying is that we should commend the Charlottesville driver as a hero fighting against communist ideologues? Perhaps we should put his Challenger in a museum.

...OK how the actual fuck did you get that from what I said?

Logical conclusion based on your merit of ideological "evil."

[Nexus of All Realities]

The Confederates were American, too.

They were also traitors who explicitly founded a rogue state for the purposes of defending the institution of slavery.

Actually it was only about slavery in the mind of the North. A good excuse anyway. A good way to enforce overreaching federalism.

[Insaeldor]

This story about these statues are the funniest thing... This man led an army that killed Americans... And yet, he has a statue in front of buildings in America, and Americans marching to defend him.

America...

Uh at the time he lead an army that killed soldiers of the Union.

The union was America, the confederates split in order to find their own state based on their principles after feeling their socio-political system was under threat by the north.

The Union was America, The Confederacy was the Confederacy.

[Trotskylvania]

I don't know what that means. Boring?

Neither in Education, Employment nor Training, the term is closely associated with neckbeards.
I'm merely having a jape at the fact that he spent most of his life leeching from Hegel while doing jack-shit, even refusing the jobs he offered him.

You mean Engels, for one, and as Hegel was already long since dead and completely opposed on most philosophical and political matters to Marx. And two, Marx was essentially black-listed from gainful employment in his homeland from very early on, and supported himself through the barely legal radical newspapers. And when he was forced into exile, first to Paris and then later to London, he continued his political work.

But as a German political exile, he had essentially no options for gainful employment, aside from his work as an international correspondent to the New York Herald Tribune, because Americans generally don't give a tuppeny fuck about European political squabbles.

[United Muscovite Nations]

The Confederates were American, too.

They were also traitors who explicitly founded a rogue state for the purposes of defending the institution of slavery.

This. the people who try to revise the Confederates into American patriots are deluding themselves. The Confederates are no more American patriots than the Novorossiyans are Ukrainian patriots.

[Empire of Cats]

The Confederates were American, too.

No they where traitors

Just playing devil's advocate, but what does that make our Founding Fathers? In relation to the Brits, that is.

[Olerand]

So White is in Scotland and the American Deep South? Sounds about right.

You're being disingenuous and you know it.

What is "White"? Where is it? How can one be a nationalist of it? It has to exist somewhere no? Nationalism is being loyal and demanding towards your nation. Thus, White must be a nation. Where?

This story about these statues are the funniest thing... This man led an army that killed Americans... And yet, he has a statue in front of buildings in America, and Americans marching to defend him.

America...

The Confederates were American, too.

Where they? They didn't consider themselves as such. Raised their banners in rebellion against America, killed Americans, tore down the American flag. If they were Americans, then they were awful Americans.

[Vassenor]

Guess it was all fake and we can all go home now.

[Nexus of All Realities]

I'm referring back to the original post of his that led to that crap.

Maybe you should've quoted it then.

I'll get around to that soemtime, really. He knew what I meant.

[Thermodolia]

...OK how the actual fuck did you get that from what I said?

Logical conclusion based on your merit of ideological "evil."

You do realize that they where talking about the fucking Nazis? 6 to 11 million is the holocaust number

[Duestchstien]

These are the same people that voted for trump aren't they.