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Postby Valrifell » Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:30 am

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Honestly. It's terrible, because I nominally agree with the Green Party's positions more than I agree with many of the Democratic Party's, but only one of those is a functioning political organization that actually wins elections. You guys can at least genuinely claim to be building an actual framework from the grassroots, and I really hope you succeed because our country deserves a more sane option on the right.

Which, I think, is where I really resent the Greens. We not only deserve a decent third party on the left, we need one to more effectively hold the American political left accountable, and the Greens aren't doing it. I like what I've been seeing on that front out of the Democratic Socialists of America, though. They don't have "no bipartisanship" as a major plank on the welcome page of their damn website.


While I absolutely would agree we need more options (especially this last election...) it does feel kinda pointless at times because of FPTP and shit like that. Like, there's some times I'll get really excited for a Libertarian candidate and do my part to help their campaign but then I remember how much the system crushes anyone who isn't a Dem or Republican and it saps a bit of that enthusiasm.

Really we just need to overhaul our elections, if only by getting rid of FPTP and going to something that's less fucking stupid.


Gotta call a convention through states if we want to change how Congress works, they're far easier to manipulate via election to get what you want, since both parties pay smaller attention to state legislatures.

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Postby AiliailiA » Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:35 am

Oh fuck it.

I will obviously never get an answer from The Flutterlands, about how they voted last year. I will just assume The Flutterlands voted for Trump.
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Postby Astrolinium » Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:36 am

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It really does seem that way. At least the Libertarians run candidates all across the country for everything possible, the Greens seemingly only show up during presidential elections.

Ya the libertarian party has at least 4 members of state legislatures


More than that. They have county parties and organized precincts, which are the bread and butter of any serious grassroots political organization.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:37 am

AiliailiA wrote:Oh fuck it.

I will obviously never get an answer from The Flutterlands, about how they voted last year. I will just assume The Flutterlands voted for Trump.

You know it's a right of Americans to not say who they voted for.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:40 am

AiliailiA wrote:Oh fuck it.

I will obviously never get an answer from The Flutterlands, about how they voted last year. I will just assume The Flutterlands voted for Trump.


In all seriousness I actually do think he voted for Johnson or Stein, or a write in candidate maybe. I just seem to remember him saying something about voting third party if Clinton won the Dem nomination.

Edit: Nevermind I guess
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Postby The Flutterlands » Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:41 am

AiliailiA wrote:Oh fuck it.

I will obviously never get an answer from The Flutterlands, about how they voted last year. I will just assume The Flutterlands voted for Trump.

Yeah, but I'm not proud of it at all. It was an anti-hillary protest vote than a supportive vote. Much like most of Hillary's votes were anti-Trump rather than supportive.
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Postby Astrolinium » Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:42 am

The Flutterlands wrote:Much like most of Hillary's votes were anti-Trump rather than supportive.


Do you have proof of that, or is it just what you need to believe to claim moral superiority and sleep at night?
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Postby Proctopeo » Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:43 am

The Flutterlands wrote:
AiliailiA wrote:Oh fuck it.

I will obviously never get an answer from The Flutterlands, about how they voted last year. I will just assume The Flutterlands voted for Trump.

Yeah, but I'm not proud of it at all. It was an anti-hillary protest vote than a supportive vote. Much like most of Hillary's votes were anti-Trump rather than supportive.

I wouldn't say "most" (without evidence), but it's completely certain that some - probably many - were.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:43 am

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The Flutterlands wrote:Much like most of Hillary's votes were anti-Trump rather than supportive.


Do you have proof of that, or is it just what you need to believe to claim moral superiority and sleep at night?

Me. I really didn't really care to much about Clinton but I definitely didn't want Trump
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:45 am

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Do you have proof of that, or is it just what you need to believe to claim moral superiority and sleep at night?

Me. I really didn't really care to much about Clinton but I definitely didn't want Trump

I did a write in. Totally threw away my vote, but fucking better then my other choices
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Postby Astrolinium » Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:45 am

Thermodolia wrote:
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Do you have proof of that, or is it just what you need to believe to claim moral superiority and sleep at night?

Me. I really didn't really care to much about Clinton but I definitely didn't want Trump


You and the Flutterlands don't make up the majority of the 65.9 million people who voted for Hillary Clinton.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:49 am

Astrolinium wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Me. I really didn't really care to much about Clinton but I definitely didn't want Trump


You and the Flutterlands don't make up the majority of the 65.9 million people who voted for Hillary Clinton.

Okay, if Hillary really was so popular, why does she have a very low approval rating comparable to Trump?

http://www.businessinsider.com/hillary- ... ion-2017-7
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Postby Astrolinium » Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:53 am

The Flutterlands wrote:
Astrolinium wrote:
You and the Flutterlands don't make up the majority of the 65.9 million people who voted for Hillary Clinton.

Okay, if Hillary really was so popular, why does she have a very low approval rating comparable to Trump?

http://www.businessinsider.com/hillary- ... ion-2017-7


From your own source: "And a significant portion of Clinton's own voters said they didn’t like her. More than 20% of Clinton voters Bloomberg polled said they had an unfavorable view of her."

Wow, 20% sure is "most". God, you've fucking got me there. Blown me away with statistics.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:54 am

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Thermodolia wrote:Me. I really didn't really care to much about Clinton but I definitely didn't want Trump

I did a write in. Totally threw away my vote, but fucking better then my other choices

I almost voted for Johnson
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:55 am

Flutterlands, honest question here.

If you hate everything Trump has tried to do and promised to do why did you vote for him?
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:56 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Flutterlands, honest question here.

If you hate everything Trump has tried to do and promised to do why did you vote for him?

The anti-Clinton is strong with them
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Postby Seangoli » Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:57 am

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Thermodolia wrote:Me. I really didn't really care to much about Clinton but I definitely didn't want Trump

I did a write in. Totally threw away my vote, but fucking better then my other choices



A write in is not throwing away your vote. Coting for someone you acticely dislike just to spite another candidate is throwing away your vote, and incredibly near sighted pettiness.

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Postby The Flutterlands » Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:58 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:I did a write in. Totally threw away my vote, but fucking better then my other choices

I almost voted for Johnson

Almost voted for Jill Stien.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:00 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Flutterlands, honest question here.

If you hate everything Trump has tried to do and promised to do why did you vote for him?

Because I was a fucking idiot.

Seangoli wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:I did a write in. Totally threw away my vote, but fucking better then my other choices



A write in is not throwing away your vote. Coting for someone you acticely dislike just to spite another candidate is throwing away your vote, and incredibly near sighted pettiness.


And that's the moral I learned from 2016 election.
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:01 am

The Flutterlands wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Flutterlands, honest question here.

If you hate everything Trump has tried to do and promised to do why did you vote for him?

Because I was a fucking idiot.

Someone just admitted they made a mistake on NSG. :clap:

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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:02 am

Genivaria wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:Because I was a fucking idiot.

Someone just admitted they made a mistake on NSG. :clap:

*sincere clapping intensifies*

Now we have to sacrifice a virgin to restore balance
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Postby Seangoli » Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:03 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Flutterlands, honest question here.

If you hate everything Trump has tried to do and promised to do why did you vote for him?

The anti-Clinton is strong with them


I cam get not voting for Clinton. I can get voting third party. Hell, I can get not voting at all. What I cannot fathom os the level of shortsighted pettiness you would need to have to vote for someone you actively hate just to spite another camdidate. I dont say this lightly, but that is an utterly irresponsible use of ones rights.


Part of operating in a civil society is using your rights responsibly. You don't have to, certainly, but you damn well should act like an adult. And voting out of spite, amd fuck the consequences, is neither responsible nor is it acting as a reasomable adult.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:04 am

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Thermodolia wrote:I almost voted for Johnson

Almost voted for Jill Stien.

See, Green parties the closest I amto a "major" party (read number four in a two party system) but I did not like Stein
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:04 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Someone just admitted they made a mistake on NSG. :clap:

*sincere clapping intensifies*

Now we have to sacrifice a virgin to restore balance

I'll get my virgin killing knife
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:05 am

The Flutterlands wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I almost voted for Johnson

Almost voted for Jill Stien.

Ugh too anti-science.
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