Trump MAGAthread VIII: Make the MAGAthread Great Again

[Senkaku]

Agreed

Putin supports him and Putin is a multilingual high-performance intelligence leader raised to surgically lethal sharpness by the most high stakes intellectual game where the lives of billions are stacked like chips in front them.

I'd bet Putin is a genius in at least 3 ways.

He's a national competition level Judo champion. Trump says he doesn't exercise because he thinks the body is "like a battery" and exercise runs it down.

I heard a legend (probably bullshit) that Putin held off a crowd of people in Berlin as the wall came down who were trying to rush their building, stood down a street full of people who maybe lost kids/husbands/wives/parents to STASI/KGB shit, with a fuckin' Makarov, so his people could properly scrub their offices and exfil.

And he succeeded.

Trump took five deferrals from Viet Nam. Trump had to have a reporter explain that Russia had already invaded Ukraine two years prior to Trump saying "Russia's not gonna invade the Ukraine".

Putin is taking Ukraine. We should let him have it, frankly. The Russian people will change when the Russian people decide, not before. They've had that discussion. They don't have to have a nationwide pantswetting to know how to handle Nazis. You put them up against the wall and then you bury them with your grandpa's old Young Pioneer shovel and then you drink and then you piss on their graves while singing Goodbye Motherland.

This is not a contest. Trump Vs Putin intellectually is like a Bangkok stick fight between Helen Keller and a coked up Daryl Strawberry.

Firstly, I hope you at least got off after masturbating that much about Putin. He's a very smart dude, but lay off the Sputnik and the RT a bit, maybe.

Furthermore, as for the Russian people handling Nazism, yeah, maybe in 1944. Again, let's not masturbate too much over Russia. It's not like they're so fuckin' wonderful to minorities there and so tolerant.

Secondly, you're misunderstanding- Putin supports Trump simply because it's in Russia's interests, not because he thinks Trump will Make America Great Again. Those are the people that Malvarias and Clintonburge were flaming, not people like Putin, and I don't see why this post was even necessary when that was pretty damn clear.

[Clintonburge]

Putin supports him and Putin is a multilingual high-performance intelligence leader raised to surgically lethal sharpness by the most high stakes intellectual game where the lives of billions are stacked like chips in front them.

I'd bet Putin is a genius in at least 3 ways.

He's a national competition level Judo champion. Trump says he doesn't exercise because he thinks the body is "like a battery" and exercise runs it down.

I heard a legend (probably bullshit) that Putin held off a crowd of people in Berlin as the wall came down who were trying to rush their building, stood down a street full of people who maybe lost kids/husbands/wives/parents to STASI/KGB shit, with a fuckin' Makarov, so his people could properly scrub their offices and exfil.

And he succeeded.

Trump took five deferrals from Viet Nam. Trump had to have a reporter explain that Russia had already invaded Ukraine two years prior to Trump saying "Russia's not gonna invade the Ukraine".

Putin is taking Ukraine. We should let him have it, frankly. The Russian people will change when the Russian people decide, not before. They've had that discussion. They don't have to have a nationwide pantswetting to know how to handle Nazis. You put them up against the wall and then you bury them with your grandpa's old Young Pioneer shovel and then you drink and then you piss on their graves while singing Goodbye Motherland.

This is not a contest. Trump Vs Putin intellectually is like a Bangkok stick fight between Helen Keller and a coked up Daryl Strawberry.

Firstly, I hope you at least got off after masturbating that much about Putin. He's a very smart dude, but lay off the Sputnik and the RT a bit, maybe.

Furthermore, as for the Russian people handling Nazism, yeah, maybe in 1944. Again, let's not masturbate too much over Russia. It's not like they're so fuckin' wonderful to minorities there and so tolerant.

Secondly, you're misunderstanding- Putin supports Trump simply because it's in Russia's interests, not because he thinks Trump will Make America Great Again. Those are the people that Malvarias and Clintonburge were flaming, not people like Putin, and I don't see why this post was even necessary when that was pretty damn clear.

I didn't "flame" I just agreed with what a fellow user posted.

[Yagon]

Firstly, I hope you at least got off after masturbating that much about Putin. He's a very smart dude, but lay off the Sputnik and the RT a bit, maybe.

Furthermore, as for the Russian people handling Nazism, yeah, maybe in 1944. Again, let's not masturbate too much over Russia. It's not like they're so fuckin' wonderful to minorities there and so tolerant.

Secondly, you're misunderstanding- Putin supports Trump simply because it's in Russia's interests, not because he thinks Trump will Make America Great Again. Those are the people that Malvarias and Clintonburge were flaming, not people like Putin, and I don't see why this post was even necessary when that was pretty damn clear.

I understand you are fixated on masturbation, I'll try to tune it out. The things I said about Putin are true (except the probably legendary one). So are the things I said about trump.

I never claimed they were wonderful to minorities there are tolerant, please don't put words in my mouth. They are vicious to gays and minorities and the poor in general. I didn't make moral comparison, I was comparing ability with facts. And if you don't think the Russians are as hard today as they were 100 years ago or before that, well, everyone gets an opinion about history.

As for misunderstanding, again, please don't put words in my mouth. I very clearly (to any basic level of reading my post) was indicating Putin is working in Putin and Russia's best interest, that should be very evident to anyone who read what I said. Your assumption of my "misunderstanding" shows you didn't read well. Go through it again and see if you can tell a little better with basic "author's intent" kind of skills what I was saying.

Putin has no intention of making America great again, Trump is his useful idiot to damage and divide America. All it takes is people who want to respond to their own mischaracterization of what you said, instead of what you said. Trump (and some on the other side) do it constantly. Easier to substitute your version thank have to engage with what I said.

Honestly, review it and try again.

[Senkaku]

I very clearly was indicating Putin is working in Putin and Russia's best interest.

Yes, but that isn't the sort of person Malvarias was referring to. Foreign adversaries of the United States support Donald Trump for very different reasons than his American supporters do, and it's these American supporters who were being referred to. You basically just randomly decided to write a hype post for Putin only tangentially related to the post you were supposedly responding to, which is fine, but don't pretend it's something else.

[Yagon]

I very clearly was indicating Putin is working in Putin and Russia's best interest.

Yes, but that isn't the sort of person Malvarias was referring to. Foreign adversaries of the United States support Donald Trump for very different reasons than his American supporters do, and it's these American supporters who were being referred to. You basically just randomly decided to write a hype post for Putin only tangentially related to the post you were supposedly responding to, which is fine, but don't pretend it's something else.

Look, you're still not getting it. Its not personal, and I understand you're trying.

I am not hyping Putin. If that's what you got from it, I'm honestly politely asking you to check it again. It was not random, and its a little concerning you're not seeing the relevance and mapping between these American supporters Malvarias was referring to, and how that interacts in the larger system with the differential between Putin and Trump's intelligence. There really is an important link.

It wasn't random and it wasn't hype, it speaks to the progression of a highly interrelated system.

Your post indicated you thought that I was inferring that Russia was somehow kind to minorities. I said no such thing, and an introductory level able reader would see that. Can you at least admit you aren't really catching what is being illustrated?

If an astrophysicist was articulating a mass differential between objects that was very dangerous and in the same region as the other bodies discussed, would you claim she/he was "randomly hyping" the dangerous mass?

I have nothing against you personally but interacting with you has been painful. I'm going to bed.

[USS Monitor]

Donald Trump is an unhinged moron

This is a legitimate opinion that you are welcome to post on NS forums. Donald Trump is a public figure who most likely does not play NS.

and anyone who supports him is dumber than he is

This is not allowed because it is insulting a broadly defined group, and there are Trump supporters on NS. Please see the forum rules,
in particular the part about "All X are Y" trolling.

*** Warned for trolling ***

[Vassenor]

You know, I'm beginning to think Trump defines "bigotry and hate" as "people criticising me".

Seriously, why did people vote for this snowflake who's demanding politics be made into his personal safe space?

[Bombadil]

You know, I'm beginning to think Trump defines "bigotry and hate" as "people criticising me".

Trump takes anything directed at him and reflects it back.. 'fake news' was specifically for sites that generated fake, inflammatory news for clickbait, that often tapped into rumours about Clinton - he's using alt-left - he's charged with being crooked over taxes and his university so he invents 'crooked Hillary'..

..it's basically his modus operandi.. 'bigotry and hate' is now anyone who suppresses the free speech of.. well.. bigots and haters.

[Calladan]

How do you do fellow young people, you like the Zelda right?

The Legend of Zelda series is Nintendo’s best-selling video game franchise enjoyed by more than two generations of gamers. The action-adventure game was released in 1986, only one year after Nintendo’s founding in 1985.

And you know what else was released in 1986? Yeah, you do. The last major reform to the American tax code was signed into law in 1986.

It’s been 31 years, and our current code is far beyond repair.

only one year after Nintendo’s founding in 1985.

Wut?

Nintendo was originally founded in 1889 making Japanese card games. Look it up on Wiki.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

You know, I'm beginning to think Trump defines "bigotry and hate" as "people criticising me".

Seriously, why did people vote for this snowflake who's demanding politics be made into his personal safe space?

The American political discourse is dead, at the moment. At least, it is dorment. In the US, there now exist two parallel realities; in one reality, Trump is the champion of the poor and the saviour of the economy. A strong leader after years of mismanagement by his predecessor. Obama, in this reality, was a weak, ineffective and downright evil president, whose wrongs Trump is going to right. On the other hand, we have the reality wherein Trump is a moronic character devoid of empathy. A bigoted racist with Russian and Nazi ties who seeks power beyond all else.

These realities are completely incompatible. You cannot have a fruitful discussion between a Trump supporter and his adversaries, because both believe in a radically different version of reality. When Trump said CNN was turning off its cameras in Arizona, his base believed it. In their eyes, CNN is a tool for the establishment come to destroy America. None of them are going to watch CNN report on Trump, so that lie will embed itself in his following. There now exist, more than ever, two wholly different Americas.

To give an example: Obama was the Great Divider for doing things the Republicans did not agree with. Trump is the Great Uniter for pushing through legislation the Democrats did not want. There is no discussing this viewpoint, because a discussion must start from an area of agreement. That area is nowhere to be found, and it strengthens Trump and his base.

It's disgusting.

[Gim]

You know, I'm beginning to think Trump defines "bigotry and hate" as "people criticising me".

Seriously, why did people vote for this snowflake who's demanding politics be made into his personal safe space?

Russia did.

[AiliailiA]

Trump rally was pretty crazy here in Phoenix. Spent maybe twenty minutes protesting before I realized "shit, this could potentially get nasty..."

What's the problem? A bit of tear gas, you might even get to like that.

[Gim]

Trump rally was pretty crazy here in Phoenix. Spent maybe twenty minutes protesting before I realized "shit, this could potentially get nasty..."

What's the problem? A bit of tear gas, you might even get to like that.

What can I expect from that guy?

[Corrian]

Apparently ACLU thinks the police handling of Phoenix was a disaster

[Gim]

Wut?

Nintendo was originally founded in 1889 making Japanese card games. Look it up on Wiki.

Yes, 1985 was when the first game console was produced.

[AiliailiA]

You know, I'm beginning to think Trump defines "bigotry and hate" as "people criticising me".

Seriously, why did people vote for this snowflake who's demanding politics be made into his personal safe space?

Russia did.

Russia did what?

In my opinion, the current round of sanctions on Russia are sufficient punishment for what Russia did. They commissioned some crimes in the US, of hacking and of disclosure of classified information, and they should be punished for that. Russia also spent money to influence opinion in the US, but they shouldn't be punished for that because it's not a crime. For anyone in the US to knowingly take their money, spend it on advertising etc, is illegal. But to pay from outside the US, is not.

The big deal about Russia interfering in the US election, is the possibility Trump solicited the interference, or co-operated with it. Before the election there was another valid "big deal" to worry about, it was hacking of voting machines and/or vote tallying software which would be crimes under US law committed in the US, but since a few days after the election and most results certified by their state authorities no evidence has appeared of such hacking, it shouldn't count against Russia. Maybe even give Russia some credit for NOT hacking such a terribly vulnerable system.

The big deal was and remains the possibility the President broke US law and innumerable state laws. The big deal is not that Russia might have offered or even provided. The big deal would be if Trump accepted.

In short, we shouldn't hold Russia responsible for anything they did which did not break US law.

[Gim]

Russia did.

Russia did what?

In my opinion, the current round of sanctions on Russia are sufficient punishment for what Russia did. They commissioned some crimes in the US, of hacking and of disclosure of classified information, and they should be punished for that. Russia also spent money to influence opinion in the US, but they shouldn't be punished for that because it's not a crime. For anyone in the US to knowingly take their money, spend it on advertising etc, is illegal. But to pay from outside the US, is not.

The big deal about Russia interfering in the US election, is the possibility Trump solicited the interference, or co-operated with it. Before the election there was another valid "big deal" to worry about, it was hacking of voting machines and/or vote tallying software which would be crimes under US law committed in the US, but since a few days after the election and most results certified by their state authorities no evidence has appeared of such hacking, it shouldn't count against Russia. Maybe even give Russia some credit for NOT hacking such a terribly vulnerable system.

The big deal was and remains the possibility the President broke US law and innumerable state laws. The big deal is not that Russia might have offered or even provided. The big deal would be if Trump accepted.

In short, we shouldn't hold Russia responsible for anything they did which did not break US law.

They influenced the U.S. election. They should get tougher sanctions than that. U.N. sanctions seem to be a joke, since North Korea is faring well despite having one of the toughest sanctions around the globe.

[Calladan]

Nintendo was originally founded in 1889 making Japanese card games. Look it up on Wiki.

Yes, 1985 was when the first game console was produced.

Yeah - sorry. This is what you get for being in a different time zone to the rest of the civilised world

[Gim]

Yes, 1985 was when the first game console was produced.

Yeah - sorry. This is what you get for being in a different time zone to the rest of the civilised world

No worries. I know exactly how that feels like.

[AiliailiA]

Nintendo was originally founded in 1889 making Japanese card games. Look it up on Wiki.

Yes, 1985 was when the first game console was produced.

I should stay out of this ridiculous spamgent, but my geezer pride is aroused.
I played console games when I was a kid, and let me tell you I wasn't a kid in 1985.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Console_game#Early_console_games

While I'm here, let me just point out that decades before Super Mario, there was Supermarionation. One of my favorite bits of trivia there.

[Gim]

Yes, 1985 was when the first game console was produced.

I should stay out of this ridiculous spamgent, but my geezer pride is aroused.
I played console games when I was a kid, and let me tell you I wasn't a kid in 1985.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Console_game#Early_console_games

While I'm here, let me just point out that decades before Super Mario, there was Supermarionation. One of my favorite bits of trivia there.

Super Mario is classic, and I'd love to feel that nostalgia again, but we can talk through TG about that.

[The Knockout Gun Gals]

Trump's mental health is a worry to some Psychiatrists

While "some" is not "all" or "most", well, there you go.

[Gim]

Trump's mental health is a worry to some Psychiatrists

While "some" is not "all" or "most", well, there you go.

Just as figured. His remarks on North Korea and the Charlottesville incident were incendiary.

[AiliailiA]

Russia did what?

In my opinion, the current round of sanctions on Russia are sufficient punishment for what Russia did. They commissioned some crimes in the US, of hacking and of disclosure of classified information, and they should be punished for that. Russia also spent money to influence opinion in the US, but they shouldn't be punished for that because it's not a crime. For anyone in the US to knowingly take their money, spend it on advertising etc, is illegal. But to pay from outside the US, is not.

The big deal about Russia interfering in the US election, is the possibility Trump solicited the interference, or co-operated with it. Before the election there was another valid "big deal" to worry about, it was hacking of voting machines and/or vote tallying software which would be crimes under US law committed in the US, but since a few days after the election and most results certified by their state authorities no evidence has appeared of such hacking, it shouldn't count against Russia. Maybe even give Russia some credit for NOT hacking such a terribly vulnerable system.

The big deal was and remains the possibility the President broke US law and innumerable state laws. The big deal is not that Russia might have offered or even provided. The big deal would be if Trump accepted.

In short, we shouldn't hold Russia responsible for anything they did which did not break US law.

They influenced the U.S. election. They should get tougher sanctions than that. U.N. sanctions seem to be a joke, since North Korea is faring well despite having one of the toughest sanctions around the globe.

Russia DID influence the election.

But wait before you start handing out punishments. And wait another few seconds while I point out at that any punishment from the US will cost the US something: there is literally no way of harming Russia in punishment, which does not come at some cost to the US. The time is passed when the US could harm Russia just by disapproval.

What is the punishment supposed to achieve? It's supposed to stop them doing it again. Is that right?

[Gim]

They influenced the U.S. election. They should get tougher sanctions than that. U.N. sanctions seem to be a joke, since North Korea is faring well despite having one of the toughest sanctions around the globe.

Russia DID influence the election.

But wait before you start handing out punishments. And wait another few seconds while I point out at that any punishment from the US will cost the US something: there is literally no way of harming Russia in punishment, which does not come at some cost to the US. The time is passed when the US could harm Russia just by disapproval.

What is the punishment supposed to achieve? It's supposed to stop them doing it again. Is that right?

Well, they should at least do that, since they are lagging behind Russia and North Korea in cyberattacks.