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Postby Empire of Cats » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:22 pm

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Maybe that's because you also double as Darth Vader? people tend to confuse your good and well-meaning actions with....you know....force choking....those you don't like?

That's also about saving the day.

My day.

From stupid.


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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:24 pm

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Neither group should seek to initiate potentially violent confrontations with the other, though the Juggalos should continue on with their planned march and the pro-Trumpers should continue with their rally.

Nothing would wreck Trump's head more than the Juggalos having a bigger rally than him. Oh man, imagine if people went to support the Juggalos instead of protesting the Trump rally.


Huh... I hadn't thought of that.

If I had the money, I'd definitely go support the Juggalos. I have been particularly interested in it to begin with in the first place though, to see if they can pull off a serious march for once.
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Postby Computer Lab » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:29 pm

However, the M.O.A.R event website boasts images of people wearing “Right wing death squad” t-shirts, waving Trump flags and making the "OK" hand gesture, which has become known as an identifying symbol to white supremacists.

What the hell? White supremacists are associated with the ok sign? That's nonsense.
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Postby Zanera » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:30 pm

Ifreann wrote:
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Neither group should seek to initiate potentially violent confrontations with the other, though the Juggalos should continue on with their planned march and the pro-Trumpers should continue with their rally.

Nothing would wreck Trump's head more than the Juggalos having a bigger rally than him. Oh man, imagine if people went to support the Juggalos instead of protesting the Trump rally.


I bet a lot of people would still hardcore protest the rally though.

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:30 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Nothing would wreck Trump's head more than the Juggalos having a bigger rally than him. Oh man, imagine if people went to support the Juggalos instead of protesting the Trump rally.


Huh... I hadn't thought of that.

If I had the money, I'd definitely go support the Juggalos. I have been particularly interested in it to begin with in the first place though, to see if they can pull off a serious march for once.

The FBI treating them like a gang is pretty damn stupid and worth protesting.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:32 pm

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Huh... I hadn't thought of that.

If I had the money, I'd definitely go support the Juggalos. I have been particularly interested in it to begin with in the first place though, to see if they can pull off a serious march for once.

The FBI treating them like a gang is pretty damn stupid and worth protesting.


I wholeheartedly agree.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:34 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Huh... I hadn't thought of that.

If I had the money, I'd definitely go support the Juggalos. I have been particularly interested in it to begin with in the first place though, to see if they can pull off a serious march for once.

The FBI treating them like a gang is pretty damn stupid and worth protesting.


There are juggalos that pretty much are gangs to be fair.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:36 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Ifreann wrote:The FBI treating them like a gang is pretty damn stupid and worth protesting.


There are juggalos that pretty much are gangs to be fair.


I mean, yes, there are. But ever since the FBI categorized the whole Juggalo fanbase as a "loosely organized gang" back in 2011 a lot of them who are good people have been facing a lot of hardships since the categorization. It wasn't right to label them so broadly, and it was pretty damn lazy of the FBI to do that.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:40 pm

Computer Lab wrote:
However, the M.O.A.R event website boasts images of people wearing “Right wing death squad” t-shirts, waving Trump flags and making the "OK" hand gesture, which has become known as an identifying symbol to white supremacists.

What the hell? White supremacists are associated with the ok sign? That's nonsense.

Yeah, that's the point. They decided to take something random and innocuous and pretend that it's a symbol of white supremacy to troll the media. But pretending that the OK sign is your gang sign is actually the same in practise as it being your gang sign.


Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Ifreann wrote:The FBI treating them like a gang is pretty damn stupid and worth protesting.


There are juggalos that pretty much are gangs to be fair.

Are there?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:44 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
There are juggalos that pretty much are gangs to be fair.

Are there?


Plenty, yes. I used to know quite a few such people.
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Postby Proctopeo » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:44 pm


Nazis? Let me check the article, since it says it's a "pro-Trump rally".

Hmm, they don't mention the Nazis. Maybe it's on the Mother of All Rallies page?

On the MOAR page, they say this:

MOAR wrote:We are uniting in honor of the United States of America; all people regardless of race,
religion, sexual orientation, age or political affiliation are invited.


So I'll take that as a "no".

The article is trash, anyway, as it calls the "OK" hand sign a white supremacist symbol, which was denied by the ADL.
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Postby Steffan » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:48 pm

http://money.cnn.com/2017/08/17/media/t ... index.html

Meanwhile, Time, The New Yorker, and The Economist are all siding with Trump on this one...
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:49 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Computer Lab wrote:What the hell? White supremacists are associated with the ok sign? That's nonsense.

Yeah, that's the point. They decided to take something random and innocuous and pretend that it's a symbol of white supremacy to troll the media. But pretending that the OK sign is your gang sign is actually the same in practise as it being your gang sign.


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There are juggalos that pretty much are gangs to be fair.

Are there?


'It's estimated that around 10-15% of the Juggalos are criminals engaged in serious criminal activities, while the rest of them are peaceful non-violent music fans.

ICP has pretty much come out and condemned that stuff as far as I know and they have argued that while yes, some shitheads will take up the mantle of "Juggalo" to commit criminal activities and start gangs themed around them, that they do not represent the Juggalos either in part or as a whole.
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Postby Bombadil » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:50 pm

Proctopeo wrote:

Nazis? Let me check the article, since it says it's a "pro-Trump rally".

Hmm, they don't mention the Nazis. Maybe it's on the Mother of All Rallies page?

On the MOAR page, they say this:

MOAR wrote:We are uniting in honor of the United States of America; all people regardless of race,
religion, sexual orientation, age or political affiliation are invited.



Alas their photo gallery featuring someone with a Right Wing Death Squad t-shirt, featuring only white people, Trump t-shirts.. shows they're clearly not reaching out to 'all people'. It's highly disingenuous.

Corrian also noted it wasn't right to put in Nazis, it was just funnier juxtaposed against Juggalos.
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Postby Proctopeo » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:53 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Nazis? Let me check the article, since it says it's a "pro-Trump rally".

Hmm, they don't mention the Nazis. Maybe it's on the Mother of All Rallies page?

On the MOAR page, they say this:




Alas their photo gallery featuring someone with a Right Wing Death Squad t-shirt, featuring only white people, Trump t-shirts.. shows they're clearly not reaching out to 'all people'. It's highly disingenuous.

Corrian also noted it wasn't right to put in Nazis, it was just funnier juxtaposed against Juggalos.

The existing make-up of a group doesn't mean they're not inclusive, just that only certain types of people bothered to show up for picture day. It gives right to be skeptical, of course.

And at least they acknowledged that.

And I'd be the person wearing that shirt for the meme :p
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Postby Bombadil » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:58 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
Alas their photo gallery featuring someone with a Right Wing Death Squad t-shirt, featuring only white people, Trump t-shirts.. shows they're clearly not reaching out to 'all people'. It's highly disingenuous.

Corrian also noted it wasn't right to put in Nazis, it was just funnier juxtaposed against Juggalos.

The existing make-up of a group doesn't mean they're not inclusive, just that only certain types of people bothered to show up for picture day. It gives right to be skeptical, of course.

And at least they acknowledged that.

And I'd be the person wearing that shirt for the meme :p


The existing make-up of a group doesn't mean they're not inclusive, just that only certain types of people bothered to show up for picture day.

If I could be bothered to sign up to an alternative image hosting site given Photobucket is an abomination I'd paste this sentence over a Ku Klux Klan gathering image like this :p
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:03 pm

Galloism wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:I'm glad I'm not moderating that.

Hmm.

Looking at the map, a slight path change could make the two groups collide. With a little bit of luck, they could both assume the other is making fun of them.

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:06 pm

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Postby Geilinor » Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:09 pm

What is happening. Even James Murdoch, the CEO of 21st Century Fox, criticized Trump. When the owner of Fox News calls out a Republican, they've done something really badly.
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Postby Steffan » Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:14 pm

Geilinor wrote:What is happening. Even James Murdoch, the CEO of 21st Century Fox, criticized Trump. When the owner of Fox News calls out a Republican, they've done something really badly.

Christ. First Bannon, now Murdoch. :blink:
Tbf, Rupert Murdoch's sons are more liberal than he is. Not like that's much, but hey-ho.
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Postby Bombadil » Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:16 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc-news/watch/trump-advisor-brad-thomas-defends-potus-amid-ceo-backlash-1026775107752

This interview is complete gold.


It's pretty amazing how brazenly people will stick to a lie.
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Postby Steffan » Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:17 pm

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Postby Geilinor » Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:19 pm

Steffan wrote:(Image)

I had to check to make sure this was fake.
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Postby Lady Scylla » Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:19 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc-news/watch/trump-advisor-brad-thomas-defends-potus-amid-ceo-backlash-1026775107752

This interview is complete gold.


It's pretty amazing how brazenly people will stick to a lie.


It's either sheer stupidity, or maliciousness. Even both.

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Postby Steffan » Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:20 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Steffan wrote:(Image)

I had to check to make sure this was fake.

Really?
Damn, I'm good at this 8)
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