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The of Japan wrote:

Ism wrote:
Basically, if you cut taxes, the economy will grow, and it will grow to the point where the lost revenue from taxation will be made up for in new economic growth.

I'm pretty sure that is not the definition from what I heard from others.

Eh, it's not entirely wrong. My understanding is that trickle down works when the wealthy (the Trumps, the Gates, the Musks) have their taxes cut, the money will trickle down.

Proctopeo wrote:

Valrifell wrote:
People on their party support that shit, not the Party itself.

That's an important distinction to make and one I feel not many bother making.

I'm not even sure what the Democrats even stand for any more

If only the party had some sort of publicly available document where they laid out their goals and what they stood for.

Valrifell wrote:

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
See, this is why we should do tax cuts and deregulation across the board.

Deregulating small businesses I can see making sense, deregulating corporate-level America just seems like a major no-no.

Once you take away all that corporate welfare it'll make perfect sense.

*mumbles in free market*

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
A Better Motto

Better motto, better politicians, and better mascot.

Republicans should, too, be thinking about these things, all things considered

Amen to that.

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:

Proctopeo wrote:I'm not even sure what the Democrats even stand for any more

Same could be said for Republicans, tbqh.

It's what you get with a two party state.

Valrifell wrote:

Proctopeo wrote:I'm not even sure what the Democrats even stand for any more

Probably because they're an opposition party in not-campaign mode?

What did Republicans stand for in 09, again?

Nothing Obama did.
I suppose this means that Democrats currently stand for nothing Trump does.

United Muscovite Nations wrote:

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Same could be said for Republicans, tbqh.

They both stand for political oligarchy.

Shocking that a political class created by silly American voters would want to act in self-preservation.

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
A Better Motto

Better motto, better politicians, and better mascot.

Republicans should, too, be thinking about these things, all things considered

Trump 2020: It Can't Possibly Get Any Worse

UCE Watchdog of the Puppets wrote:

Grand Britannia wrote:*helps corporations and fucks everyone else

t. Rustbelt

It...really doesn't do that unless you let it.

What stops a company from moving their production to where it's cheaper?

Pasong Tirad wrote:

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Better motto, better politicians, and better mascot.

Republicans should, too, be thinking about these things, all things considered

Trump 2020: It Can't Possibly Get Any Worse

Trump 2020: I want my MAGA already.

Proctopeo wrote:

Valrifell wrote:
Probably because they're an opposition party in not-campaign mode?

What did Republicans stand for in 09, again?

Nothing Obama did.
I suppose this means that Democrats currently stand for nothing Trump does.

Exactly, when parties become exclusively opposition, they really can't be anything than anti-party in power.

This is why I'm tired of complaints at Democrats lack of messaging or ideals.

Pasong Tirad wrote:

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Better motto, better politicians, and better mascot.

Republicans should, too, be thinking about these things, all things considered

Trump 2020: It Can't Possibly Get Any Worse

I think he already has an official slogan:
Keep America Great!
Eh, doesn't have the same ring, does it?

Grand Britannia wrote:

UCE Watchdog of the Puppets wrote:It...really doesn't do that unless you let it.

What stops a company from moving their production to where it's cheaper?

Patriotism, can confirm

Pasong Tirad wrote:

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Better motto, better politicians, and better mascot.

Republicans should, too, be thinking about these things, all things considered

Trump 2020: It Can't Possibly Get Any Worse

Then the Firenation attacked.

Steffan wrote:

Pasong Tirad wrote:Trump 2020: It Can't Possibly Get Any Worse

I think he already has an official slogan:
Keep America Great!
Eh, doesn't have the same ring, does it?

That's the tagline for the third Purge movie.

Actually, yeah, that does sound better.

Valrifell wrote:

Proctopeo wrote:Nothing Obama did.
I suppose this means that Democrats currently stand for nothing Trump does.

Exactly, when parties become exclusively opposition, they really can't be anything than anti-party in power.

This is why I'm tired of complaints at Democrats lack of messaging or ideals.

This is also why everyone's ragging on their (bad) slogan: they haven't done anything else other than choose a slogan.

The of Japan wrote:

Major-Tom wrote:
Let's sure to shit hope not. I mean, I'd say there is a chance Trump gets a second term, the prospect of which is terrifying.

almost anybody in the republicans and most of the democrats would be better, and there are a lot of bad apples in both parties.

My parents dog would be a better leader

Steffan wrote:

Pasong Tirad wrote:Trump 2020: It Can't Possibly Get Any Worse

I think he already has an official slogan:
Keep America Great!
Eh, doesn't have the same ring, does it?

Keep American Great implies that America is great with him at the helm to begin with.

In 6 months, I haven't seen much of MAGA around, and a whole lot of fail.

The of Japan wrote:

Astrolinium wrote:
>again

They haven't done that yet.

they did last year.

Er, no they didn't. Hillary Clinton had her faults, sure, but she's never killed anyone.

Grand Britannia wrote:

UCE Watchdog of the Puppets wrote:It...really doesn't do that unless you let it.

What stops a company from moving their production to where it's cheaper?

maybe not having 40% corporation tax?

The of Japan wrote:

Ism wrote:
Basically, if you cut taxes, the economy will grow, and it will grow to the point where the lost revenue from taxation will be made up for in new economic growth.

I'm pretty sure that is not the definition from what I heard from others.

It's an important element of it, as can be seen with Kansas. Without that growth replacing the taxes, the entire idea falls apart.

Grand Britannia wrote:

UCE Watchdog of the Puppets wrote:It...really doesn't do that unless you let it.

What stops a company from moving their production to where it's cheaper?

Nothing. But forcing them to stay here can and will lead to layoffs, shutdowns, bankruptcies and ultimately, automation. Instead of saving doomed jobs, we should focus on creating new jobs for the people at risk.

United Muscovite Nations wrote:You know, the nice thing about the Trump administrations is I think we can now safely say that the whole Roswell thing was bullshit. There's no way Trump could have kept quiet about that for this long.

You haven't watched Independence Day have you? Roswell and Area 51 are on the list of things they don't tell the President in order to ensure plausible deniability.

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:

Steffan wrote:I think he already has an official slogan:
Keep America Great!
Eh, doesn't have the same ring, does it?

Keep American Great implies that America is great with him at the helm to begin with.

In 6 months, I haven't seen much of MAGA around, and a whole lot of fail.

He's made nighttime comedy great again

Grand Britannia wrote:

UCE Watchdog of the Puppets wrote:It...really doesn't do that unless you let it.

What stops a company from moving their production to where it's cheaper?

Getting nationalized. And/or political coercion through subtler means. It really doesn't fuck anyone over, though, if they do. It just seems like that because humans are so well-fit to being one-trick ponies our whole lives.

Pasong Tirad wrote:

Steffan wrote:I think he already has an official slogan:
Keep America Great!
Eh, doesn't have the same ring, does it?

That's the tagline for the third Purge movie.

Actually, yeah, that does sound better.

Didn't get through the second one.

How about M(ake) A(merica) E(ven) G(reater)

Pronounced like Meg.

Proctopeo wrote:

Valrifell wrote:
Exactly, when parties become exclusively opposition, they really can't be anything than anti-party in power.

This is why I'm tired of complaints at Democrats lack of messaging or ideals.

This is also why everyone's ragging on their (bad) slogan: they haven't done anything else other than choose a slogan.

They've come out in favor of co-ops, restructuring how mergers relate to gubment, and Booker recently tried to push for legal weed nationally.

They're only not doing things if you don't look beneath the surface.