Trump MAGAthread VIII: Make the MAGAthread Great Again

[Clintonburge]

I'm willing to back a conservative GOP party.

I am not willing to fuck with crazy though, which is exactly what being in cahoots with the GOP sounds like right now.

What would you define conservative as, exactly?

Conservatism = Traditional, keeping things the same, obviously anti-liberalism, anti-immigrant, often religious.

[Kramania]

Don't ever count out Democrat incompetence. Their idiocy gave the Republicans their biggest majority in the states and in Congress since Reconstruction.

Now they are running against one of the most disliked and poorly performing presidents sense W.Bush.

2020 will most likely be 2008 2.0, barring a massive fuck up land slide.

Even then, the fuck up landslide will only make the race close.

Looking at his popularity, If the Democrats somehow brought Quentin Trembley into the real world and made him the Nominee, I still think he would win vs Trump.

And I still think the complete disconnect the Democrats have from the American people will screw them. Their liberal wing has consumed them.

[Kramania]

How were they liberal?

Freeing the slaves was a liberal idea at the time.

They were classical liberals, yes. Not liberal liberals (Democrats).

[Clintonburge]

Now they are running against one of the most disliked and poorly performing presidents sense W.Bush.

2020 will most likely be 2008 2.0, barring a massive fuck up land slide.

Even then, the fuck up landslide will only make the race close.

Looking at his popularity, If the Democrats somehow brought Quentin Trembley into the real world and made him the Nominee, I still think he would win vs Trump.

And I still think the complete disconnect the Democrats have from the American people will screw them. Their liberal wing has consumed them.

There is a difference between Modern liberalism (US) and Classical liberalism. The Democrats are not being "screwed" by embracing more liberal policies.

[Clintonburge]

Freeing the slaves was a liberal idea at the time.

They were classical liberals, yes. Not liberal liberals (Democrats).

???

[Kramania]

How were they liberal?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_Republican

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radicalism_(historical)

So they were opposed by Lincoln. Lincoln freed the slaves, not them. And they opposed the war.

How does this help your case?

[Kramania]

And I still think the complete disconnect the Democrats have from the American people will screw them. Their liberal wing has consumed them.

There is a difference between Modern liberalism (US) and Classical liberalism. The Democrats are not being "screwed" by embracing more liberal policies.

Really? Because their liberal policies lost them the states, Congress, and the presidency.

[Clintonburge]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_Republican

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radicalism_(historical)

So they were opposed by Lincoln. Lincoln freed the slaves, not them. And they opposed the war.

How does this help your case?

You questioned whether the Republicans that freed the slaves, the party of Lincoln, were liberals.

Liberal republicans accomplished much more than their conservative counterparts, which includes #45. You can't deny it!

How were they liberal?

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Freeing the slaves was a liberal idea at the time.

They were classical liberals, yes. Not liberal liberals (Democrats).

Come on now.

[Clintonburge]

There is a difference between Modern liberalism (US) and Classical liberalism. The Democrats are not being "screwed" by embracing more liberal policies.

Really? Because their liberal policies lost them the states, Congress, and the presidency.

The "states, Congress, and the presidency" are not held by a particular party, they shift between both in our two party system.

[Vassenor]

There is a difference between Modern liberalism (US) and Classical liberalism. The Democrats are not being "screwed" by embracing more liberal policies.

Really? Because their liberal policies lost them the states, Congress, and the presidency.

So what policies did this, and what makes them bad?

[Kramania]

So they were opposed by Lincoln. Lincoln freed the slaves, not them. And they opposed the war.

How does this help your case?

You questioned whether the Republicans that freed the slaves, the party of Lincoln, were liberals.

How were they liberal?

But Lincoln was not a liberal! Ffs. Your own source fucking says that the "Radical Republicans" (your liberals) were opposed by Lincoln.

[Kramania]

Really? Because their liberal policies lost them the states, Congress, and the presidency.

The "states, Congress, and the presidency" are not held by a particular party, they shift between both in our two party system.

And Republicans hold all of them. The biggest majority since Reconstruction. Thanks to the current left-wing nature of the Dems.

[Vassenor]

The "states, Congress, and the presidency" are not held by a particular party, they shift between both in our two party system.

And Republicans hold all of them. The biggest majority since Reconstruction. Thanks to the current left-wing nature of the Dems.

[citation needed]

[Clintonburge]

You questioned whether the Republicans that freed the slaves, the party of Lincoln, were liberals.

But Lincoln was not a liberal! Ffs. Your own source fucking says that the "Radical Republicans" (your liberals) were opposed by Lincoln.

Radical Republicans more closely align with liberal ideals.

[Kramania]

Really? Because their liberal policies lost them the states, Congress, and the presidency.

So what policies did this, and what makes them bad?

Obamacare, sanctuary cities, racial pandering, take your pick. Apparently the Dems did something wrong since Republicans now have the biggest majority in the states and Congress since Reconstruction (and control the presidency as well).

[Clintonburge]

Republicans Pledge To Work On Legislation To Protect Dreamers Endangered By Trump Decision

WASHINGTON ― Members of Congress vowed on Tuesday to work on legislative solutions to protect young undocumented immigrants who came to the U.S. as children, after President Donald Trump followed through on a campaign promise to put them back at risk of deportation.

They better protect those DACA program kids!

[Clintonburge]

So what policies did this, and what makes them bad?

Obamacare, sanctuary cities, racial pandering, take your pick. Apparently the Dems did something wrong since Republicans now have the biggest majority in the states and Congress since Reconstruction (and control the presidency as well).

Polls show Obamacare to be favorable nation-wide.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/23/obamaca ... shows.html

[Vassenor]

So what policies did this, and what makes them bad?

Obamacare, sanctuary cities, racial pandering, take your pick. Apparently the Dems did something wrong since Republicans now have the biggest majority in the states and Congress since Reconstruction (and control the presidency as well).

...How are we defining "racial pandering" today?

And if the Dems are so massively unpopular, how come Trump couldn't win the popular vote against the most unpopular party and candidate in history?

[Ascoobis]

It's like nobody acknowledges that the Republicans/Democrats switched platforms in the 1960's....

[Saiwania]

Really? Because their liberal policies lost them the states, Congress, and the presidency.

This is false. I'd say the Democrats are losing because they've abandoned the White vote thinking that the Obama coalition would be permanent. You can get every single non-White vote in the country- but they need at least 40+% of Whites in order to win.

It isn't helping that Democrats try to be "conservative-lite." Democrats aren't aggressively pushing a progressive agenda enough across the board, they're ashamed of being liberal when they should instead own that and try to run away with it. Point out the failures of supply side economics and pursue policy that polls well, actually implement it whenever the chance arises and let any successful record speak for itself. Ardently defend and expand on the gains you make.

Discard lame candidates like Hillary Clinton and other corporate Democrats and quit what hasn't worked- such as identity politics. If liberals treat the midwest and rust belt as just "flyover country" then yes- of course they're going to go red. They only see the east and west coasts get every benefit.

[Benuty]

Nearly five hundred pages already good grief.

[Vassenor]

Nearly five hundred pages already good grief.

...We've filled up eight threads in as many months. This is going to be fun.

[Benuty]

But Lincoln was not a liberal! Ffs. Your own source fucking says that the "Radical Republicans" (your liberals) were opposed by Lincoln.

Radical Republicans more closely align with liberal ideals.

Oh, I don't know their incessant whining, and hijacking of a party to live out some fantasy of honoring the martyred Lincoln doesn't exactly sound liberal for the time. Hell if they had truly gotten their way in the long run Reconstruction still would have failed once a candidate got in office who could work on repealing their harsh measures.

[Corrian]

Nearly five hundred pages already good grief.

In a month. It has been a busy month.