Trump MAGAthread VIII: Make the MAGAthread Great Again

[Gauthier]

This from the one who has a love of passive-aggressive Dorito Face.

That's my friendly smiley of friendship. What a terrible thing you accuse me of.

Friendship like loyalty from Donald Trump.

[New haven america]

Okay, so because this is more relevant to here than the democracy thread I have a question.

Is the difference between Hillary and Donald's votes 2% or 4%?

UMN is arguing it's 2% because Trump got 46% of the vote, and Hillary got 48%, so 48%-46%=2%.

I'm arguing that he should subtract the percentages but the numbers of votes themselves, so 66,000,000-63,000,000=3,000,000, which is 4% of 66,000,000.

Or, 63,000,000/66,000,000=.96; 1-.96=.04=4%.

Both, depends on the context.

If you're looking at all candidates involved then UMN is right, but if you're looking at just Trump v. Clinton, then you're right.

[Zanera]

North Korea nuclear threat: Mattis warns of 'massive military response'

Pentagon chief James Mattis says any threat to the US or its allies by North Korea will be met with a "massive military response".

His comments came after a national security briefing with President Donald Trump about the secretive communist state's latest nuclear test.

Pyongyang says it has successfully trialled a hydrogen bomb that could be loaded on to a long-range missile.

The move has drawn international condemnation.

North Korea has defied UN sanctions and international pressure by developing nuclear weapons and test missiles that could potentially reach the US.

But speaking to reporters outside the White House, Defence Secretary Mattis said the US had the ability to defend itself and its allies South Korea and Japan, adding that its commitments were "ironclad".

"Any threat to the United States or its territories - including Guam - or our allies will be met with a massive military response, a response both effective and overwhelming."

However, he said the hope was for denuclearisation, "because we are not looking to the total annihilation of a country, namely North Korea".

The UN Security Council is to hold an emergency meeting on Monday to discuss an international response, according to the US mission.

Meanwhile, President Trump has warned that America may stop trading with any country that does business with the North.

What has the reaction been?

Denouncing the test as "hostile" and "dangerous", President Trump described the North as a "rogue nation" which had become a "great threat and embarrassment" to China - Pyongyang's main ally.

He also said South Korea's "talk of appeasement" was not working and that the secretive communist state "only understands one thing".

"The United States is considering, in addition to other options, stopping all trade with any country doing business with North Korea," Mr Trump later said in a tweet. North Korea relies on China for about 90% of its foreign trade.

Snipped a lot of it. It has all the political parts relevant to this thread in the box, link there for further reading.

Bad situation...
http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/03/politics/ ... index.html
But sadly not the end of the bad...

Seems small compared to potential nuclear exchange, but yeah, Obama touched it so Trump probably won't renew it.

[Gauthier]

Bad situation...
http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/03/politics/ ... index.html
But sadly not the end of the bad...

Seems small compared to potential nuclear exchange, but yeah, Obama touched it so Trump probably won't renew it.

The Obama Touch, the Republican Cooties.

[New haven america]

And Trump's doing the dumb again.

Anything specific?

Wanting to remove DACA is a good start...

[Gauthier]

Anything specific?

Wanting to remove DACA is a good start...

Apparently under pressure from Republicans which means either GOP support for DACA is bullshit or it's going to be another Three Stooges Syndrome logjam.

[FelrikTheDeleted]

This from the one who has a love of passive-aggressive Dorito Face.

It's such a good face.

[San Lumen]

ending DACA is just wrong. Most of those affected have never known another country so where are you going to deport them too?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

ending DACA is just wrong. Most of those affected have never known another country so where are you going to deport them too?

It may be wrong for you.

For Trump this is simply politically expedient.

What is going to happen is that this will drive the people who were being productive underground. And they will become nothing but laborers, which will bring back a lot of cheap labor.

There is no way red states (who hold a lot of the illegal immigrant population) won't benefit from it.

[San Lumen]

ending DACA is just wrong. Most of those affected have never known another country so where are you going to deport them too?

It may be wrong for you.

For Trump this is simply politically expedient.

What is going to happen is that this will drive the people who were being productive underground. And they will become nothing but laborers, which will bring back a lot of cheap labor.

There is no way red states (who hold a lot of the illegal immigrant population) won't benefit from it.

how will they benefit?

[Internationalist Bastard]

It may be wrong for you.

For Trump this is simply politically expedient.

What is going to happen is that this will drive the people who were being productive underground. And they will become nothing but laborers, which will bring back a lot of cheap labor.

There is no way red states (who hold a lot of the illegal immigrant population) won't benefit from it.

how will they benefit?

Illegal workers don't benefit from labor laws. They also tend to be in the south

[Soldati Senza Confini]

It may be wrong for you.

For Trump this is simply politically expedient.

What is going to happen is that this will drive the people who were being productive underground. And they will become nothing but laborers, which will bring back a lot of cheap labor.

There is no way red states (who hold a lot of the illegal immigrant population) won't benefit from it.

how will they benefit?

1. Cheap Labor
2. Republicans can look at Trump and say "SEE! OUR PRESIDENT IS WITH US! LAW AND ORDER!"
3. They can enhance resources for illegal immigrant raids and cooperate with ICE in deporting them. Also, it helps because it sustains inequality.

[Northern Davincia]

Wanting to remove DACA is a good start...

Apparently under pressure from Republicans which means either GOP support for DACA is bullshit or it's going to be another Three Stooges Syndrome logjam.

The pressure likely stemmed from the minority of the GOP that Trump favors the most. Namely, his most hardcore supporters.

[Northern Davincia]

And Trump's doing the dumb again.

In other news, the sun rises in the morning.

[Bombadil]

ending DACA is just wrong. Most of those affected have never known another country so where are you going to deport them too?

As I understand he hasn't quite, he's provided a 6 month window for the GOP to come back with a plan.. which will probably be a minor tweak and everyone can claim victory.

[UED]

ending DACA is just wrong. Most of those affected have never known another country so where are you going to deport them too?

So cruel, but does Trump really care? No, for him he sees a possible opportunity (That will probably backfire).

[Zanera]

And Trump's doing the dumb again.

In other news, the sun rises in the morning.

But doth it come from the same darkness from whence it may have arisen again?

[San Lumen]

ending DACA is just wrong. Most of those affected have never known another country so where are you going to deport them too?

So cruel, but does Trump really care? No, for him he sees a possible opportunity (That will probably backfire).

I hope so as throwing out a million people who have committed no crime and sending them to countries they've never know is beyond cruel and hopefully backfires but i have to admit after the last election i lost all faith in the american voter and the integrity of our elections.

[Internationalist Bastard]

So cruel, but does Trump really care? No, for him he sees a possible opportunity (That will probably backfire).

I hope so as throwing out a million people who have committed no crime and sending them to countries they've never know is beyond cruel and hopefully backfires but i have to admit after the last election i lost all faith in the american voter and the integrity of our elections.

I just lost faith in humanity in general and marked a great shift in me from being an activist to no longer caring

[San Lumen]

I hope so as throwing out a million people who have committed no crime and sending them to countries they've never know is beyond cruel and hopefully backfires but i have to admit after the last election i lost all faith in the american voter and the integrity of our elections.

I just lost faith in humanity in general and marked a great shift in me from being an activist to no longer caring

You should care still. giving up is not an option.

[The of Japan]

So cruel, but does Trump really care? No, for him he sees a possible opportunity (That will probably backfire).

I hope so as throwing out a million people who have committed no crime and sending them to countries they've never know is beyond cruel and hopefully backfires but i have to admit after the last election i lost all faith in the american voter and the integrity of our elections.

I doubt he is going to do anything really substantial on controversial issues until after reelection

[San Lumen]

I hope so as throwing out a million people who have committed no crime and sending them to countries they've never know is beyond cruel and hopefully backfires but i have to admit after the last election i lost all faith in the american voter and the integrity of our elections.

I doubt he is going to do anything really substantial on controversial issues until after reelection

That's if he's reelected which isn't a certainty but i no longer have faith in the integrity of our elections or the american public.

[Internationalist Bastard]

I just lost faith in humanity in general and marked a great shift in me from being an activist to no longer caring

You should care still. giving up is not an option.

Sure it is. I stopped caring and got a loving a family rather then drinking as I wonder what hopeless task to take up next. It's not like I I can do much anymore anyway

[Geilinor]

Okay, so because this is more relevant to here than the democracy thread I have a question.

Is the difference between Hillary and Donald's votes 2% or 4%?

UMN is arguing it's 2% because Trump got 46% of the vote, and Hillary got 48%, so 48%-46%=2%.

I'm arguing that he should subtract the percentages but the numbers of votes themselves, so 66,000,000-63,000,000=3,000,000, which is 4% of 66,000,000.

Or, 63,000,000/66,000,000=.96; 1-.96=.04=4%.

The difference is two percentage points.

[Zanera]

You should care still. giving up is not an option.

Sure it is. I stopped caring and got a loving a family rather then drinking as I wonder what hopeless task to take up next. It's not like I I can do much anymore anyway

Which question is that option on the test?