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Postby Steffan » Sat Sep 02, 2017 4:28 pm

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No one is saying that ANTIFA isn't a group of dangerous idiots, but a relatively small group of dangerous idiots that have bigger or equal sized rival group of other dangerous idiots.


except their "rivals" are not bigger, the Neo-Nazis/KKK are hilariously small

They're both hilariously small proportions of opposing sides of the political spectrum.
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Postby Clintonburge » Sat Sep 02, 2017 4:29 pm

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So when did any of that actually happen? Because the only mentions of anything to do with "white guilt" during the race came from the Trump camp and its supporters.


from leftists campaigns and colleges, this is pretty common knowledge.

I mean we had safe-spaces, "trigger warnings", "whitesplaining", "Mansplaining? etc etc

all these things along with rhetoric from the left created more extremism, and ANTIFA/BLM made it worse.


I have no idea what any of those quoted words mean.

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Postby New haven america » Sat Sep 02, 2017 4:29 pm

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New haven america wrote:No, but you were ignoring the fact that Right Wing terror is definitely on the rise, instead choosing to blame it on Left Wing groups rather than Trump's own instability.


I don't blame trump for it

I blame the campaign by leftists that includes painting white people as privileged, making white people feel guilty etc etc etc

I think that's why there has been a rise, because people are being pushed into that sphere.

And I think telling his followers to lash out at people he doesn't like is causing this.

But what do I know? I only have video evidence of him doing this...
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Sep 02, 2017 4:29 pm

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So when did any of that actually happen? Because the only mentions of anything to do with "white guilt" during the race came from the Trump camp and its supporters.


from leftists campaigns and colleges, this is pretty common knowledge.

I mean we had safe-spaces, "trigger warnings", "whitesplaining", "Mansplaining? etc etc

all these things along with rhetoric from the left created more extremism, and ANTIFA/BLM made it worse.


Which is odd because I'm seeing more and more demands for safe spaces from the conservatives these days.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat Sep 02, 2017 4:30 pm

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No one is saying that ANTIFA isn't a group of dangerous idiots, but a relatively small group of dangerous idiots that have bigger or equal sized rival group of other dangerous idiots.


except their "rivals" are not bigger, the Neo-Nazis/KKK are hilariously small

I don't believe that.

There rivals are just as big (if not bigger) just as dangerous, and just as idiotic.

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Postby Kash Island » Sat Sep 02, 2017 4:30 pm

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except their "rivals" are not bigger, the Neo-Nazis/KKK are hilariously small


Yea, so insignificant that we shouldn't worry about them right? Same as the number of people crossing the border unlawfully, insignificant, I guess we don't need that wall anyway.


well to destroy this idea

the border is a serious concern, we have serious issues with the Cartels/other criminal organizations not to mention many illegal immigrants coming to the United States, this puts a tremendous burden on our society.

we don't NEED more people, we have enough problems

but that's not the point, ANTIFA is small but still FAR FAR larger than the Neo-Nazis/KKK
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Postby Clintonburge » Sat Sep 02, 2017 4:32 pm

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Yea, so insignificant that we shouldn't worry about them right? Same as the number of people crossing the border unlawfully, insignificant, I guess we don't need that wall anyway.


well to destroy this idea

the border is a serious concern, we have serious issues with the Cartels/other criminal organizations not to mention many illegal immigrants coming to the United States, this puts a tremendous burden on our society.

we don't NEED more people, we have enough problems

but that's not the point, ANTIFA is small but still FAR FAR larger than the Neo-Nazis/KKK


Are you saying no more immigrants? And, what "people" do you mean? No more Latinos?

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Postby Steffan » Sat Sep 02, 2017 4:32 pm

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Yea, so insignificant that we shouldn't worry about them right? Same as the number of people crossing the border unlawfully, insignificant, I guess we don't need that wall anyway.


well to destroy this idea

the border is a serious concern, we have serious issues with the Cartels/other criminal organizations not to mention many illegal immigrants coming to the United States, this puts a tremendous burden on our society.

we don't NEED more people, we have enough problems

but that's not the point, ANTIFA is small but still FAR FAR larger than the Neo-Nazis/KKK


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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat Sep 02, 2017 4:32 pm

Kash Island wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So when did any of that actually happen? Because the only mentions of anything to do with "white guilt" during the race came from the Trump camp and its supporters.


from leftists campaigns and colleges, this is pretty common knowledge.

I mean we had safe-spaces, "trigger warnings", "whitesplaining", "Mansplaining? etc etc

all these things along with rhetoric from the left created more extremism, and ANTIFA/BLM made it worse.


Not really.

And please stop using the term "the left" beacuse most of those things are from a SJW version of the left that isn't universally left.

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Postby Geilinor » Sat Sep 02, 2017 4:33 pm

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Yea, so insignificant that we shouldn't worry about them right? Same as the number of people crossing the border unlawfully, insignificant, I guess we don't need that wall anyway.


well to destroy this idea

the border is a serious concern, we have serious issues with the Cartels/other criminal organizations not to mention many illegal immigrants coming to the United States, this puts a tremendous burden on our society.

we don't NEED more people, we have enough problems

but that's not the point, ANTIFA is small but still FAR FAR larger than the Neo-Nazis/KKK

That assumes more people means more problems. More working-age people helps grow the economy and supports Social Security and Medicare.
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Postby Kash Island » Sat Sep 02, 2017 4:33 pm

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Kash Island wrote:
well to destroy this idea

the border is a serious concern, we have serious issues with the Cartels/other criminal organizations not to mention many illegal immigrants coming to the United States, this puts a tremendous burden on our society.

we don't NEED more people, we have enough problems

but that's not the point, ANTIFA is small but still FAR FAR larger than the Neo-Nazis/KKK


Are you saying no more immigrants? And, what "people" do you mean? No more Latinos?



What I'm saying is letting in large amounts of people, be they refugees/illegal immigrants is not necessarily GOOD for the nation.

We have borders for a reason and they need to be secure whenever possible. I'm also talking in general the US could use less people.

I know your trying to provoke the whole "AH HA hes a racist"(won't work, since im not)
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Postby Kanaria » Sat Sep 02, 2017 4:34 pm

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Yea, so insignificant that we shouldn't worry about them right? Same as the number of people crossing the border unlawfully, insignificant, I guess we don't need that wall anyway.


well to destroy this idea

the border is a serious concern, we have serious issues with the Cartels/other criminal organizations not to mention many illegal immigrants coming to the United States, this puts a tremendous burden on our society.

we don't NEED more people, we have enough problems

but that's not the point, ANTIFA is small but still FAR FAR larger than the Neo-Nazis/KKK

Where is the evidence for this claim that Antifa members are numerically greater than Neos?

inb4 "emotions"

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Postby Vassenor » Sat Sep 02, 2017 4:34 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Kash Island wrote:
from leftists campaigns and colleges, this is pretty common knowledge.

I mean we had safe-spaces, "trigger warnings", "whitesplaining", "Mansplaining? etc etc

all these things along with rhetoric from the left created more extremism, and ANTIFA/BLM made it worse.


Not really.

And please stop using the term "the left" beacuse most of those things are from a SJW version of the left that isn't universally left.


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Postby Kramania » Sat Sep 02, 2017 4:35 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Kash Island wrote:
from leftists campaigns and colleges, this is pretty common knowledge.

I mean we had safe-spaces, "trigger warnings", "whitesplaining", "Mansplaining? etc etc

all these things along with rhetoric from the left created more extremism, and ANTIFA/BLM made it worse.


Not really.

And please stop using the term "the left" beacuse most of those things are from a SJW version of the left that isn't universally left.

So what term would be acceptable? Because they certainly aren't on the right.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat Sep 02, 2017 4:35 pm

Kash Island wrote:
Clintonburge wrote:
Yea, so insignificant that we shouldn't worry about them right? Same as the number of people crossing the border unlawfully, insignificant, I guess we don't need that wall anyway.


well to destroy this idea

the border is a serious concern, we have serious issues with the Cartels/other criminal organizations not to mention many illegal immigrants coming to the United States, this puts a tremendous burden on our society.

we don't NEED more people, we have enough problems

but that's not the point, ANTIFA is small but still FAR FAR larger than the Neo-Nazis/KKK


No, the illegal immigrant problem has been decreasing for years, Cartels have boats, planes, shovels, ect.

And no it's not.

Both groups are the same size if not Neo Nazis are bigger even by a tiny bit.

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Postby Kash Island » Sat Sep 02, 2017 4:35 pm

Kanaria wrote:
Kash Island wrote:
well to destroy this idea

the border is a serious concern, we have serious issues with the Cartels/other criminal organizations not to mention many illegal immigrants coming to the United States, this puts a tremendous burden on our society.

we don't NEED more people, we have enough problems

but that's not the point, ANTIFA is small but still FAR FAR larger than the Neo-Nazis/KKK

Where is the evidence for this claim that Antifa members are numerically greater than Neos?

inb4 "emotions"


Due to the fact that ANTIFA has numerous branches throughout American and large amounts in Europe.

I mean honestly, are you really going to try and play this game?
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Postby New haven america » Sat Sep 02, 2017 4:35 pm

Kash Island wrote:
Clintonburge wrote:
Are you saying no more immigrants? And, what "people" do you mean? No more Latinos?



What I'm saying is letting in large amounts of people, be they refugees/illegal immigrants is not necessarily GOOD for the nation.

We have borders for a reason and they need to be secure whenever possible. I'm also talking in general the US could use less people.

I know your trying to provoke the whole "AH HA hes a racist"(won't work, since im not)

Have you ever read a history book about the US?
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Postby Clintonburge » Sat Sep 02, 2017 4:36 pm

Kash Island wrote:
Clintonburge wrote:
Are you saying no more immigrants? And, what "people" do you mean? No more Latinos?



What I'm saying is letting in large amounts of people, be they refugees/illegal immigrants is not necessarily GOOD for the nation.

We have borders for a reason and they need to be secure whenever possible. I'm also talking in general the US could use less people.

I know your trying to provoke the whole "AH HA hes a racist"(won't work, since im not)


More undocumented immigrants are from overstaying visas, and not from crossing the border.

Here’s the Reality About Illegal Immigrants in the United States
In each year from 2007 to 2014, more people joined the ranks of the illegal by remaining in the United States after their temporary visitor permits expired than by creeping across the Mexican border, according to a report by researchers at the Center for Migration Studies.

A partial government estimate released last year said that 416,500 people whose business or tourist visas had expired in 2015 were still in the country in 2016. That does not count people who came here on student visas or temporary worker permits.

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Postby Kash Island » Sat Sep 02, 2017 4:36 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Kash Island wrote:
well to destroy this idea

the border is a serious concern, we have serious issues with the Cartels/other criminal organizations not to mention many illegal immigrants coming to the United States, this puts a tremendous burden on our society.

we don't NEED more people, we have enough problems

but that's not the point, ANTIFA is small but still FAR FAR larger than the Neo-Nazis/KKK


No, the illegal immigrant problem has been decreasing for years, Cartels have boats, planes, shovels, ect.

And no it's not.

Both groups are the same size if not Neo Nazis are bigger even by a tiny bit.


Where do we see Neo-Nazis forming in groups as large as ANTIFA on a regular basis? damn near NEVER
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Sep 02, 2017 4:36 pm

New haven america wrote:
Kash Island wrote:

What I'm saying is letting in large amounts of people, be they refugees/illegal immigrants is not necessarily GOOD for the nation.

We have borders for a reason and they need to be secure whenever possible. I'm also talking in general the US could use less people.

I know your trying to provoke the whole "AH HA hes a racist"(won't work, since im not)

Have you ever read a history book about the US?


You mean that the US hasn't always been majority White European?
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat Sep 02, 2017 4:36 pm

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Not really.

And please stop using the term "the left" beacuse most of those things are from a SJW version of the left that isn't universally left.

So what term would be acceptable? Because they certainly aren't on the right.

Extreme left? SJW? Far Left?

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Postby Clintonburge » Sat Sep 02, 2017 4:36 pm

Kash Island wrote:
Kanaria wrote:Where is the evidence for this claim that Antifa members are numerically greater than Neos?

inb4 "emotions"


Due to the fact that ANTIFA has numerous branches throughout American and large amounts in Europe.

I mean honestly, are you really going to try and play this game?


We could play the facts/sources game....

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Postby Vassenor » Sat Sep 02, 2017 4:37 pm

Clintonburge wrote:
Kash Island wrote:
Due to the fact that ANTIFA has numerous branches throughout American and large amounts in Europe.

I mean honestly, are you really going to try and play this game?


We could play the facts/sources game....


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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat Sep 02, 2017 4:37 pm

Kash Island wrote:
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No, the illegal immigrant problem has been decreasing for years, Cartels have boats, planes, shovels, ect.

And no it's not.

Both groups are the same size if not Neo Nazis are bigger even by a tiny bit.


Where do we see Neo-Nazis forming in groups as large as ANTIFA on a regular basis? damn near NEVER

Charlottesville?

That time that neo nazi guy got punched?

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Postby Kash Island » Sat Sep 02, 2017 4:38 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Kash Island wrote:
Where do we see Neo-Nazis forming in groups as large as ANTIFA on a regular basis? damn near NEVER

Charlottesville?

That time that neo nazi guy got punched?


True, but even then, pretty rare.
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