Trump MAGAthread VIII: Make the MAGAthread Great Again

[Clintonburge]

Well...no. But at the moment, there is no AI powerful enough to be POTUS.

Really, would we want an AI to be self-aware? I know I wouldn't, and if the AI isn't self-aware, then it would be incapable to lead independently and shouldn't be POTUS.

Isn't that being bigoted against AIs? Don't AIs deserve civil rights and freedoms? Oh god, this is gonna get heated.

[Firsthome]

If AI is that self aware it will figure pretty damn quickly that humans are useless.

I disagree, but that fear is a good reason to why a self-aware AI could be counterproductive to humanity's goals. Unless the AI is taught to share our goals, it's probably not a good idea to keep it around.

Freefall is a good webcomic that's somewhat about this. You should look into it if you're into SciFi and Robots.

[Valrifell]

Really, would we want an AI to be self-aware? I know I wouldn't, and if the AI isn't self-aware, then it would be incapable to lead independently and shouldn't be POTUS.

Isn't that being bigoted against AIs? Don't AIs deserve civil rights and freedoms? Oh god, this is gonna get heated.

Another good reason why we shouldn't even bother creating an AI with the self-awareness of a human. Let's just avoid that conversation.

[Thermodolia]

It seems like Thermodolia is now arguing base on emotion now, since I've explained why automation is not going to be a national security issue, as it pertains to the use of EMPs. And, the fact that it would devastate the US economy.

I've already said that are other reasons why full automation can be a national security risk. EMP attacks aren't he only reason

[Firsthome]

My Scoutmaster was a SEAL, and he basically explained that anyone with multiple EMPs could easily take out our entire defense structure, as our Nuclear Missiles and SAMs uses Electronic software from satellites that aren't protected, and the missiles themselves are not protected with thin lead shielding.

See, this is the reason why nukes aren't allowed in space. Since it's the best way that we (or at least I) know how to trigger a mass EMP.

He also said that you don't need Nukes to make an EMP. You just need to overload power and he said you could make a small scale EMP with a 9 volt battery.

[Thermodolia]

Currently working a temporary job till one I'm trained in opens up but I'm trained in the medical field. I'm ex-military.

See, you're worrying over nothing. Robots aren't taking the roles of either soldiers or doctors yet; they aren't at that stage yet...
Unless there's a Auto-Doc kickin' around somewhere...

I'm not a doctor though. I have EMT training though. Still I don't want robots to get anywhere near that.

[Valrifell]

See, this is the reason why nukes aren't allowed in space. Since it's the best way that we (or at least I) know how to trigger a mass EMP.

He also said that you don't need Nukes to make an EMP. You just need to overload power and he said you could make a small scale EMP with a 9 volt battery.

I mean, technically. But you aren't going to exactly paralyze national infrastructure with a small EMP, which is the assumed goal of using an EMP in the first place.

[Firsthome]

He also said that you don't need Nukes to make an EMP. You just need to overload power and he said you could make a small scale EMP with a 9 volt battery.

I mean, technically. But you aren't going to exactly paralyze national infrastructure with a small EMP, which is the assumed goal of using an EMP in the first place.

No, but if you had a large enough power source, you could easily make a large EMP without ruining the surroundings for millennia.

[Clintonburge]

See, you're worrying over nothing. Robots aren't taking the roles of either soldiers or doctors yet; they aren't at that stage yet...
Unless there's a Auto-Doc kickin' around somewhere...

I'm not a doctor though. I have EMT training though. Still I don't want robots to get anywhere near that.

There are things like military, that I wouldn't want Robots fighting in. Like if this Afghanistan war goes on for year and years, and we start seeing robotic soldiers... I'm fine with automation used in the manufacturing on military hardware, but aside from that, leave it to humans.

[Steffan]

See, you're worrying over nothing. Robots aren't taking the roles of either soldiers or doctors yet; they aren't at that stage yet...
Unless there's a Auto-Doc kickin' around somewhere...

I'm not a doctor though. I have EMT training though. Still I don't want robots to get anywhere near that.

They aren't. Last time I was in an ambulance, there were humans in it. The only machines there were were the vitals monitors.

[Thermodolia]

Really, would we want an AI to be self-aware? I know I wouldn't, and if the AI isn't self-aware, then it would be incapable to lead independently and shouldn't be POTUS.

Isn't that being bigoted against AIs? Don't AIs deserve civil rights and freedoms? Oh god, this is gonna get heated.

No they don't deserve shit

[Clintonburge]

I mean, technically. But you aren't going to exactly paralyze national infrastructure with a small EMP, which is the assumed goal of using an EMP in the first place.

No, but if you had a large enough power source, you could easily make a large EMP without ruining the surroundings for millennia.

"Easily" I highly doubt that, mate.

[Computer Lab]

As someone whose research focus is a part of artificial intelligence, there are already increasingly few things that AIs can't do that humans can. Ais already do the major part of a lawyer's job in many firms and they can create art that humans think are made by humans (and also music).

Facial recognition was something computers had trouble with, but machine learning is quickly changing that. Name a field and I can probably find journal articles that are significantly on their way to being functional at it.

And I hate that. I'm not going to stand around and have my job taken over by some tin can

More power to you, but it isn't likely to change anything.

The industry that employs the most people right now is transportation. Those jobs only have a decade. Two tops.
Maybe something will change politically when the unemployment rate skyrockets from that, but I find any meaningful resistance unlikely.

[Steffan]

Isn't that being bigoted against AIs? Don't AIs deserve civil rights and freedoms? Oh god, this is gonna get heated.

No they don't deserve shit

AIs aren't even close to sentience yet.
Again, we should get back on topic before mods come barging in.

[Clintonburge]

REPORT: General Kelly Is At His Breaking Point With President Trump

[Firsthome]

Isn't that being bigoted against AIs? Don't AIs deserve civil rights and freedoms? Oh god, this is gonna get heated.

No they don't deserve shit

You sir, should really read http://freefall.purrsia.com/

[Thermodolia]

I'm not a doctor though. I have EMT training though. Still I don't want robots to get anywhere near that.

They aren't. Last time I was in an ambulance, there were humans in it. The only machines there were were the vitals monitors.

Dude you don't think I know that? I'm saying I don't want robots to ever get near the ability to be a medic.

[Luminesa]

I think we're all jumping a bit far ahead here.

The law doesn't say the president has to be human, right?

An American citizen born in the United States, 35 years of age or older. The human is implied. If it was not, I'd have my cat run. Do you get how this works? Why would you even ask that question?

[Thermodolia]

No they don't deserve shit

AIs aren't even close to sentience yet.
Again, we should get back on topic before mods come barging in.

And they never should be.

[Firsthome]

And I hate that. I'm not going to stand around and have my job taken over by some tin can

More power to you, but it isn't likely to change anything.

The industry that employs the most people right now is transportation. Those jobs only have a decade. Two tops.
Maybe something will change politically when the unemployment rate skyrockets from that, but I find any meaningful resistance unlikely.

When it happened to the Coal/Mining Industry, Obama put in Retraining programs. When Trump went to "Help the Mines" He shut down those programs.

[Valrifell]

I mean, technically. But you aren't going to exactly paralyze national infrastructure with a small EMP, which is the assumed goal of using an EMP in the first place.

No, but if you had a large enough power source, you could easily make a large EMP without ruining the surroundings for millennia.

First of all, nuclear bomb sites aren't radioactive for millennia (Nagasaki, Hiroshima, the Nevada testing sites, among others are no longer radioactive, and are back within the normal background radiation). Second of all, the yield would be so high up in the atmosphere that the fallout would dissipate over a wide area and not really be that big of an issue. Third of all, you'd need a massive energy source to bring down the entire national infrastructure through non-nuclear means, since non-nuclear EMPs don't emit nearly as much power.

[Steffan]

They aren't. Last time I was in an ambulance, there were humans in it. The only machines there were were the vitals monitors.

Dude you don't think I know that? I'm saying I don't want robots to ever get near the ability to be a medic.

It will happen one day. No day soon though.

[Clintonburge]

Trump Just Wrote On The Bare Wall Of A Houston Shelter Like A Kid Starved For Attention

[Thermodolia]

And I hate that. I'm not going to stand around and have my job taken over by some tin can

More power to you, but it isn't likely to change anything.

The industry that employs the most people right now is transportation. Those jobs only have a decade. Two tops.
Maybe something will change politically when the unemployment rate skyrockets from that, but I find any meaningful resistance unlikely.

A decade? What are you smoking?

[Gauthier]

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