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Postby Dylar » Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:40 pm

Purpelia wrote:
The V O I D wrote:Pretty sure being a collectively intelligent hivemind means I am aware of any given body as one would be aware of their own fingers or elbows. I know they're there, I know how to work it, and I know what it needs to work, etc.

Of course, if the hivemind dies with my original body, I just become an infectious consciousness that acts like a hivemind without actually being one.

But you still need to work. And you need to work more and more to feed the more and more people. At the very best your scenario means that all these bodies still have to hold down a job and all you get is to live a thousand regular lives. Me, I get to live one life leaching off the work of others or occasionally their bodies. All play and no work.

But he's an infectious hivemind that can pretty much enslave the human race and turn everyone into him. When that happens, he'll effectively rid the entire world of money and jobs. It'll pretty much be Communism on a global scale with no worry for money. Everyone gets the same housing, same portions of food, etc. etc. And as for food shortages? those'll be non-existent since he'd designate a certain number of drones to constantly farm, hunt, and gather all the food that everyone needs.
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Postby Gauthier » Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:48 pm

The V O I D wrote:You all think too small.

My power would be a mass consciousness-esque indoctrination aura; this would functionally alter all minds within my proximity, and the infected's proximity, to mirror my exact thoughts, desires, emotions, etc. Secondarily, this effect would enhance, empower, and further strengthen my hive mind control over all infected.

Even if my current primary/central body "dies", the collective now has my exact thought process, desires, emotions, etc. and is capable of continuing infecting people; my mind would live on through the collective, and a new "Prime Mind" would probably be randomly selected to control the collective.

Bonus points for the fact that this means I get more powers as I go, and even telepaths aren't immune because I am literally causing their consciousness to wither and die in favor of my own.

The process is like a 'psionic virus', so even escaping my aura, depending on how far you were exposed, won't save you; eventually, you will return and join the collective. Or be used as an agent to further the collective's reach through the fact that you, too, now carry the infection.

Oh, I'm sorry, I meant now that I, too, now carry the infection.

tl;dr "I want to be a Reaper."
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Postby The V O I D » Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:50 pm

Dylar wrote:
Purpelia wrote:But you still need to work. And you need to work more and more to feed the more and more people. At the very best your scenario means that all these bodies still have to hold down a job and all you get is to live a thousand regular lives. Me, I get to live one life leaching off the work of others or occasionally their bodies. All play and no work.

But he's an infectious hivemind that can pretty much enslave the human race and turn everyone into him. When that happens, he'll effectively rid the entire world of money and jobs. It'll pretty much be Communism on a global scale with no worry for money. Everyone gets the same housing, same portions of food, etc. etc. And as for food shortages? those'll be non-existent since he'd designate a certain number of drones to constantly farm, hunt, and gather all the food that everyone needs.


This guy gets it. Human rights issues? Solved, because everyone gets the same rights because everyone's the exact same in mind, and is controlled by the same singular person.

Politics? Fuck that noise, who needs government when everyone's the exact same person and there is no crime or war anymore? No need for money and such either.

Literally, humanity would exist for the sole and singular purpose of being able to advance and become stronger/better, for the betterment of everyone me. And there's no risk of revolt and such even if my hivemind somehow does slip, since my infectious consciousness remains, so everyone will still be me, still be connected in some way, and still share memories and such using borderline-telepathy.

And after we expand to the stars, any alien races we encounter? Well, if they have a brain and their brains function similarly to ours, or if my power/mutagen only requires a 'consciousness' to be present... I will slowly become all sapient/sentient life in the universe. I will become everyone and everything that ever matters, and be able to unify it under my own design. Only the heat death of the universe will probably stop me, really, at that point.

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Postby The V O I D » Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:51 pm

Gauthier wrote:
The V O I D wrote:You all think too small.

My power would be a mass consciousness-esque indoctrination aura; this would functionally alter all minds within my proximity, and the infected's proximity, to mirror my exact thoughts, desires, emotions, etc. Secondarily, this effect would enhance, empower, and further strengthen my hive mind control over all infected.

Even if my current primary/central body "dies", the collective now has my exact thought process, desires, emotions, etc. and is capable of continuing infecting people; my mind would live on through the collective, and a new "Prime Mind" would probably be randomly selected to control the collective.

Bonus points for the fact that this means I get more powers as I go, and even telepaths aren't immune because I am literally causing their consciousness to wither and die in favor of my own.

The process is like a 'psionic virus', so even escaping my aura, depending on how far you were exposed, won't save you; eventually, you will return and join the collective. Or be used as an agent to further the collective's reach through the fact that you, too, now carry the infection.

Oh, I'm sorry, I meant now that I, too, now carry the infection.

tl;dr "I want to be a Reaper."


No. Reaper Indoctrinated were still somewhat independent and were in no way completely converted. I mean, yeah, I'm stealing their aura of indoctrination aspect, but mine's way better and I am also a hivemind on top of it.

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Postby Luminesa » Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:55 pm

And if I can see into the core of the spiritual essence of the hivemind, I could tear it apart. And everyone would have their wills back, and their memories back, and their joy and individuality. And love. Because there is no love in a universe made of only one being. It needs at least two. :3
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Postby Mefpan » Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:01 pm

The V O I D wrote:You all think too small.

My power would be a mass consciousness-esque indoctrination aura; this would functionally alter all minds within my proximity, and the infected's proximity, to mirror my exact thoughts, desires, emotions, etc. Secondarily, this effect would enhance, empower, and further strengthen my hive mind control over all infected.

Even if my current primary/central body "dies", the collective now has my exact thought process, desires, emotions, etc. and is capable of continuing infecting people; my mind would live on through the collective, and a new "Prime Mind" would probably be randomly selected to control the collective.

Bonus points for the fact that this means I get more powers as I go, and even telepaths aren't immune because I am literally causing their consciousness to wither and die in favor of my own.

The process is like a 'psionic virus', so even escaping my aura, depending on how far you were exposed, won't save you; eventually, you will return and join the collective. Or be used as an agent to further the collective's reach through the fact that you, too, now carry the infection.

Oh, I'm sorry, I meant now that I, too, now carry the infection.

People like you are why the Imperium of Man gives every other Inquisitor the right to order an immediate Exterminatus Extremis on the mere suspicion of suspecting something may be wrong.

And, fuck, I can see why. I'd even press the button myself, just to save Creation.

But, I guess the perfect counter would be if I had the blessings of Lucius the Eternal. You encounter me. I become you. From a certain point of view you have killed me. Because you have killed me, you become me. All of you become me.
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:02 pm

Mefpan wrote:
The V O I D wrote:You all think too small.

My power would be a mass consciousness-esque indoctrination aura; this would functionally alter all minds within my proximity, and the infected's proximity, to mirror my exact thoughts, desires, emotions, etc. Secondarily, this effect would enhance, empower, and further strengthen my hive mind control over all infected.

Even if my current primary/central body "dies", the collective now has my exact thought process, desires, emotions, etc. and is capable of continuing infecting people; my mind would live on through the collective, and a new "Prime Mind" would probably be randomly selected to control the collective.

Bonus points for the fact that this means I get more powers as I go, and even telepaths aren't immune because I am literally causing their consciousness to wither and die in favor of my own.

The process is like a 'psionic virus', so even escaping my aura, depending on how far you were exposed, won't save you; eventually, you will return and join the collective. Or be used as an agent to further the collective's reach through the fact that you, too, now carry the infection.

Oh, I'm sorry, I meant now that I, too, now carry the infection.

People like you are why the Imperium of Man gives every other Inquisitor the right to order an immediate Exterminatus Extremis on the mere suspicion of suspecting something may be wrong.

And, fuck, I can see why. I'd even press the button myself, just to save Creation.

But, I guess the perfect counter would be if I had the blessings of Lucius the Eternal. You encounter me. I become you. From a certain point of view you have killed me. Because you have killed me, you become me. All of you become me.

Become you? At least your room will get straightened up.
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Postby The V O I D » Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:04 pm

Mefpan wrote:
The V O I D wrote:You all think too small.

My power would be a mass consciousness-esque indoctrination aura; this would functionally alter all minds within my proximity, and the infected's proximity, to mirror my exact thoughts, desires, emotions, etc. Secondarily, this effect would enhance, empower, and further strengthen my hive mind control over all infected.

Even if my current primary/central body "dies", the collective now has my exact thought process, desires, emotions, etc. and is capable of continuing infecting people; my mind would live on through the collective, and a new "Prime Mind" would probably be randomly selected to control the collective.

Bonus points for the fact that this means I get more powers as I go, and even telepaths aren't immune because I am literally causing their consciousness to wither and die in favor of my own.

The process is like a 'psionic virus', so even escaping my aura, depending on how far you were exposed, won't save you; eventually, you will return and join the collective. Or be used as an agent to further the collective's reach through the fact that you, too, now carry the infection.

Oh, I'm sorry, I meant now that I, too, now carry the infection.

People like you are why the Imperium of Man gives every other Inquisitor the right to order an immediate Exterminatus Extremis on the mere suspicion of suspecting something may be wrong.

And, fuck, I can see why. I'd even press the button myself, just to save Creation.

But, I guess the perfect counter would be if I had the blessings of Lucius the Eternal. You encounter me. I become you. From a certain point of view you have killed me. Because you have killed me, you become me. All of you become me.


I feel like that somehow might end in a paradoxical situation where we endlessly assimilate one another until a gestalt hivemind born from two "individual" hiveminds, rather than end in your victory. Because my infection aura still exists and my consciousnesses are still inside all the bodies, just inert because under the control of a prime consciousness.

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Postby Zanera » Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:07 pm

The V O I D wrote:You all think too small.

My power would be a mass consciousness-esque indoctrination aura; this would functionally alter all minds within my proximity, and the infected's proximity, to mirror my exact thoughts, desires, emotions, etc. Secondarily, this effect would enhance, empower, and further strengthen my hive mind control over all infected.

Even if my current primary/central body "dies", the collective now has my exact thought process, desires, emotions, etc. and is capable of continuing infecting people; my mind would live on through the collective, and a new "Prime Mind" would probably be randomly selected to control the collective.

Bonus points for the fact that this means I get more powers as I go, and even telepaths aren't immune because I am literally causing their consciousness to wither and die in favor of my own.

The process is like a 'psionic virus', so even escaping my aura, depending on how far you were exposed, won't save you; eventually, you will return and join the collective. Or be used as an agent to further the collective's reach through the fact that you, too, now carry the infection.

Oh, I'm sorry, I meant now that I, too, now carry the infection.


Sounds like all we need is a vaccine tbh.

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Postby The V O I D » Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:08 pm

Zanera wrote:
The V O I D wrote:You all think too small.

My power would be a mass consciousness-esque indoctrination aura; this would functionally alter all minds within my proximity, and the infected's proximity, to mirror my exact thoughts, desires, emotions, etc. Secondarily, this effect would enhance, empower, and further strengthen my hive mind control over all infected.

Even if my current primary/central body "dies", the collective now has my exact thought process, desires, emotions, etc. and is capable of continuing infecting people; my mind would live on through the collective, and a new "Prime Mind" would probably be randomly selected to control the collective.

Bonus points for the fact that this means I get more powers as I go, and even telepaths aren't immune because I am literally causing their consciousness to wither and die in favor of my own.

The process is like a 'psionic virus', so even escaping my aura, depending on how far you were exposed, won't save you; eventually, you will return and join the collective. Or be used as an agent to further the collective's reach through the fact that you, too, now carry the infection.

Oh, I'm sorry, I meant now that I, too, now carry the infection.


Sounds like all we need is a vaccine tbh.


Vaccine implies biological. This is a psionic/telepathic infection/"virus" that slowly degrades and destroys your consciousness and replaces it with a copy of mine, before placing it under the control of my hivemind.

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Postby Zanera » Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:09 pm

The V O I D wrote:
Zanera wrote:
Sounds like all we need is a vaccine tbh.


Vaccine implies biological. This is a psionic/telepathic infection/"virus" that slowly degrades and destroys your consciousness and replaces it with a copy of mine, before placing it under the control of my hivemind.


Then it sounds like all I need is therapy tbh.

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Postby Luminesa » Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:10 pm

Mefpan wrote:
The V O I D wrote:You all think too small.

My power would be a mass consciousness-esque indoctrination aura; this would functionally alter all minds within my proximity, and the infected's proximity, to mirror my exact thoughts, desires, emotions, etc. Secondarily, this effect would enhance, empower, and further strengthen my hive mind control over all infected.

Even if my current primary/central body "dies", the collective now has my exact thought process, desires, emotions, etc. and is capable of continuing infecting people; my mind would live on through the collective, and a new "Prime Mind" would probably be randomly selected to control the collective.

Bonus points for the fact that this means I get more powers as I go, and even telepaths aren't immune because I am literally causing their consciousness to wither and die in favor of my own.

The process is like a 'psionic virus', so even escaping my aura, depending on how far you were exposed, won't save you; eventually, you will return and join the collective. Or be used as an agent to further the collective's reach through the fact that you, too, now carry the infection.

Oh, I'm sorry, I meant now that I, too, now carry the infection.

People like you are why the Imperium of Man gives every other Inquisitor the right to order an immediate Exterminatus Extremis on the mere suspicion of suspecting something may be wrong.

And, fuck, I can see why. I'd even press the button myself, just to save Creation.

But, I guess the perfect counter would be if I had the blessings of Lucius the Eternal. You encounter me. I become you. From a certain point of view you have killed me. Because you have killed me, you become me. All of you become me.

But what if we reach the bottom of your existence as Lucius and realize that the reason you must assimilate other people is because of some crippling loneliness, and you realize that maybe you just want to live and to be happy and have friends? And what if the assimilation is secretly painful because you just wanted that person to be your friend? :(
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Postby Mefpan » Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:14 pm

Luminesa wrote:But what if we reach the bottom of your existence as Lucius and realize that the reason you must assimilate other people is because of some crippling loneliness, and you realize that maybe you just want to live and to be happy and have friends? And what if the assimilation is secretly painful because you just wanted that person to be your friend? :o

Oh, that's no problem. It literally only comes into effect when someone's actions lead to my death. So unless my "friend" brains me with a frozen chicken or something, nothing's going to happen to my friend.

And it's not so much assimilation as it is "annihilation and replacement of the host's consciousness and soul". You can go figure what'd happen if that met with a hive mind, where there is one consciousness to go around.
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Postby Luminesa » Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:16 pm

Mefpan wrote:
Luminesa wrote:But what if we reach the bottom of your existence as Lucius and realize that the reason you must assimilate other people is because of some crippling loneliness, and you realize that maybe you just want to live and to be happy and have friends? And what if the assimilation is secretly painful because you just wanted that person to be your friend? :o

Oh, that's no problem. It literally only comes into effect when someone's actions lead to my death. So unless my "friend" brains me with a frozen chicken or something, nothing's going to happen to my friend.

And it's not so much assimilation as it is "annihilation and replacement of the host's consciousness and soul". You can go figure what'd happen if that met with a hive mind, where there is one consciousness to go around.

So you essentially kill the hive-mind?
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Postby The V O I D » Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:19 pm

Mefpan wrote:
Luminesa wrote:But what if we reach the bottom of your existence as Lucius and realize that the reason you must assimilate other people is because of some crippling loneliness, and you realize that maybe you just want to live and to be happy and have friends? And what if the assimilation is secretly painful because you just wanted that person to be your friend? :o

Oh, that's no problem. It literally only comes into effect when someone's actions lead to my death. So unless my "friend" brains me with a frozen chicken or something, nothing's going to happen to my friend.

And it's not so much assimilation as it is "annihilation and replacement of the host's consciousness and soul". You can go figure what'd happen if that met with a hive mind, where there is one consciousness to go around.


That's basically what my indoctrination aura would do to other people as I grow to infect more and more people into my Collective. That's on top of controlling them with a hive mind post-infection. Even if you remove the hive mind, my consciousness is inside all previously infected and my aura still exists in all infected. It'd make no difference, except making the hivemind more like a majority-ruled direct democracy that wouldn't really need a majority since we're all the same person anyway.

Remove the hivemind and kill all of my consciousnesses, and you're basically killing all of the 'me', which would be everyone. Congrats, you murdered millions/billions by trying to remove 'me' from them. Hope you're happy.

As for how that'd go down, you'd probably only destroy/replace the hivemind... which would constantly be counter-indoctrinating you thanks to my aura and my subconscious consciousness implants which would become active probably. Which is why there's an endless loop, tbh.

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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:45 pm

The Salian Realm wrote:Did Marvel have mutants who could automatically make people become recognized as the gender of their choice? Because that's what I'm feeling now.


Why not just become a mutant that can switch sexes instead?

I feel like that's simpler than altering everyone else's point of view.

Anyway, my mutant ability? Hmm...Honestly, I'm not a super-power person. I'm more of a Batman kind of guy :P

But having magnetic powers a-la Magneto would be sweet.
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Neutraligon wrote:So to get away from the typical political stuff here I had a question. If you were a mutant (a la marvel comics) what would you be like and what would your super powers be?

For me I would be a person who controls sound waves I produce and can use those sound waves to affect people's minds. I would mostly do this through things like making music and singing, though I could also dampen or magnify sound waves. This would occur regardless of the medium the sound is traveling through so earplugs and the such wouldn't exactly do much. The reason I would use song mainly because I would have a stutter, which gets in the way of my abilities. My abilities could be used to the good or the bad, where I can help people overcome there own mental scaring like ptsd, but I could also use it to brainwash people to do what I want.


Bug control.
;)

Pfft, what could anyone accomplish with that?

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Postby Sovaal » Mon Jul 31, 2017 4:08 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Sovaal wrote:I would probably get some horrible cancer and die.

Look on the bright side. You get to not have done the things I'd do to people.

I...

Thanks?
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Postby Sovaal » Mon Jul 31, 2017 4:09 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Bug control.
;)

Pfft, what could anyone accomplish with that?

Control the worlds agriculture?
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

”Many forms of government have been tried and will be tried in this world of sin and woe.
No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Dylar » Mon Jul 31, 2017 4:16 pm

Sovaal wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Pfft, what could anyone accomplish with that?

Control the worlds agriculture?

Or send in the countless zerg rushes of flies?
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Postby Sovaal » Mon Jul 31, 2017 4:21 pm

Dylar wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Control the worlds agriculture?

Or send in the countless zerg rushes of flies?

Implying those bastards don't already do that.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

”Many forms of government have been tried and will be tried in this world of sin and woe.
No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Deadpool style regeneration and invisibility. I'd definitely become a merc
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