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by Farnhamia » Fri Jul 28, 2017 7:26 pm

by Salus Maior » Fri Jul 28, 2017 7:27 pm

by Farnhamia » Fri Jul 28, 2017 7:30 pm


by Improved werpland » Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:27 pm
Shofercia wrote:*snip*

by Brocialist » Sat Jul 29, 2017 12:45 am

by Kubra » Sat Jul 29, 2017 1:21 am
Mediocre anti-imperialismBrocialist wrote:If this group isn't allied woth the US, then I would support them.

by Grenartia » Sat Jul 29, 2017 1:24 am
Kubra wrote:Mediocre anti-imperialismBrocialist wrote:If this group isn't allied woth the US, then I would support them.
if the capitalist is gonna sell you the noose, there's little reason in saying "nuh uh, I'm not trading in your blood money!"
Basic comintern politics here, innit? This was fundamental of The Measures Taken.

by Kubra » Sat Jul 29, 2017 1:27 am
at this point they're allied with both, insofar as the SDF and the SAA are not just leaving each other alone, but in some cases jointly administering territory, with the SAA pushing the road east of raqqa leaving the kurds free to continue the cities seige.Grenartia wrote:Kubra wrote: Mediocre anti-imperialism
if the capitalist is gonna sell you the noose, there's little reason in saying "nuh uh, I'm not trading in your blood money!"
Basic comintern politics here, innit? This was fundamental of The Measures Taken.
Besides, if they aren't allied with the US, then they're probably allied with Russia, which has always been as shitty about imperialism as the US, contrary to popular belief.

by Grenartia » Sat Jul 29, 2017 1:28 am
Kubra wrote:at this point they're allied with both, insofar as the SDF and the SAA are not just leaving each other alone, but in some cases jointly administering territory, with the SAA pushing the road east of raqqa leaving the kurds free to continue the cities seige.Grenartia wrote:
Besides, if they aren't allied with the US, then they're probably allied with Russia, which has always been as shitty about imperialism as the US, contrary to popular belief.
I mean syria is kind of a clusterfuck idk how people act like it's not.

by Neo Balka » Sat Jul 29, 2017 1:49 am
Grenartia wrote:Kubra wrote: Mediocre anti-imperialism
if the capitalist is gonna sell you the noose, there's little reason in saying "nuh uh, I'm not trading in your blood money!"
Basic comintern politics here, innit? This was fundamental of The Measures Taken.
Besides, if they aren't allied with the US, then they're probably allied with Russia, which has always been as shitty about imperialism as the US, contrary to popular belief.

by Arcturus Novus » Sat Jul 29, 2017 4:58 am

by Benuty » Sat Jul 29, 2017 9:14 am
Arcturus Novus wrote:Idk about y'all but I'm really enjoying the thought of a bunch of radical gays fighting terrorists and triumphantly waving rainbow flags. If I were in better shape, I wouldn't mind joining them.
by Shofercia » Sat Jul 29, 2017 12:49 pm
Improved Werpland wrote:Shofercia wrote:*snip*
Yes I've read that article. It is a very clear example of how Mark was unable to overcome his niche narrative and/or bias to write something objective.
He also writes (intending to be humourous) about coercing his employees to do things. Ames clearly enjoyed being able to do that, but now he apparently deplores what happened to Russia in the 90's.

by Kubra » Sat Jul 29, 2017 12:49 pm
who do you suppose is the winnerBenuty wrote:Arcturus Novus wrote:Idk about y'all but I'm really enjoying the thought of a bunch of radical gays fighting terrorists and triumphantly waving rainbow flags. If I were in better shape, I wouldn't mind joining them.
You know I have the strangest feeling when this war is over the victor is going to encourage a glorious purge spree. I wouldn't be surprised if any foreign volunteer groups get whacked since they might be viewed as a threat.

by Krasny-Volny » Sat Jul 29, 2017 12:59 pm
Grenartia wrote:Kubra wrote: Mediocre anti-imperialism
if the capitalist is gonna sell you the noose, there's little reason in saying "nuh uh, I'm not trading in your blood money!"
Basic comintern politics here, innit? This was fundamental of The Measures Taken.
Besides, if they aren't allied with the US, then they're probably allied with Russia, which has always been as shitty about imperialism as the US, contrary to popular belief.

by Sovaal » Sat Jul 29, 2017 5:22 pm
Krasny-Volny wrote:Grenartia wrote:
Besides, if they aren't allied with the US, then they're probably allied with Russia, which has always been as shitty about imperialism as the US, contrary to popular belief.
Some say Russia is more an empire than a federation due to its massive size and its history of expansionism to reach that size. The parallel doesn't seem to jive with the US and its 50 states?

by Salus Maior » Sat Jul 29, 2017 7:46 pm
Krasny-Volny wrote:Grenartia wrote:
Besides, if they aren't allied with the US, then they're probably allied with Russia, which has always been as shitty about imperialism as the US, contrary to popular belief.
Some say Russia is more an empire than a federation due to its massive size and its history of expansionism to reach that size. The parallel doesn't seem to jive with the US and its 50 states?

by Improved werpland » Sat Jul 29, 2017 8:39 pm
Shofercia wrote:Improved Werpland wrote:Yes I've read that article. It is a very clear example of how Mark was unable to overcome his niche narrative and/or bias to write something objective.
He also writes (intending to be humourous) about coercing his employees to do things. Ames clearly enjoyed being able to do that, but now he apparently deplores what happened to Russia in the 90's.
Mark's point was that the newspapers can control the narrative by sending experienced journalists to cover A's point of view, ensuring that it's fully covered, and second stringers to cover B's point of view, ensuring that it's marginally covered at best. As a result you get a story that heavily favors A over B.
That's an incredibly objective point, and we need more journalists like Ames to bring out that point. And yet, for you, it's the opposite of objectivity. Did Putin weaponize objectivity too?


by Benuty » Sat Jul 29, 2017 8:54 pm
Salus Maior wrote:Krasny-Volny wrote:
Some say Russia is more an empire than a federation due to its massive size and its history of expansionism to reach that size. The parallel doesn't seem to jive with the US and its 50 states?
Manifest Destiny isn't imperialism?
Imperialism doesn't necessarily mean you've got the most mileage.

by Salus Maior » Sat Jul 29, 2017 8:58 pm
Benuty wrote:Salus Maior wrote:
Manifest Destiny isn't imperialism?
Imperialism doesn't necessarily mean you've got the most mileage.
To be honest Manifest Destiny actually had an end goal. People in a position of power to enforce blatant imperialism normally doesn't want it to have an end goal that could see their system gone. You could definitely argue that the methods of slicing, and dicing across the west was imperialistic, but their was still an end goal.

by Benuty » Sat Jul 29, 2017 9:05 pm
Salus Maior wrote:Benuty wrote:To be honest Manifest Destiny actually had an end goal. People in a position of power to enforce blatant imperialism normally doesn't want it to have an end goal that could see their system gone. You could definitely argue that the methods of slicing, and dicing across the west was imperialistic, but their was still an end goal.
Except that the U.S didn't stop at California.
Hawaii and the Philippines.
by Shofercia » Sun Jul 30, 2017 11:21 am
Improved Werpland wrote:Shofercia wrote:
Mark's point was that the newspapers can control the narrative by sending experienced journalists to cover A's point of view, ensuring that it's fully covered, and second stringers to cover B's point of view, ensuring that it's marginally covered at best. As a result you get a story that heavily favors A over B.
That's an incredibly objective point, and we need more journalists like Ames to bring out that point. And yet, for you, it's the opposite of objectivity. Did Putin weaponize objectivity too?
I'll respond to this with a telegram, do not threadjack please.

by Improved werpland » Sun Jul 30, 2017 11:30 am
Shofercia wrote:Improved Werpland wrote:I'll respond to this with a telegram, do not threadjack please.
Threadjacking - you keep using that word, but it doesn't seem that you know what it is. Talking about news coverage of wars, in a thread where the queer unit lacks said coverage, is most certainly on topic.
Seriously, who's been covering the unit?
by Shofercia » Sun Jul 30, 2017 1:04 pm
Improved Werpland wrote:Shofercia wrote:
Threadjacking - you keep using that word, but it doesn't seem that you know what it is. Talking about news coverage of wars, in a thread where the queer unit lacks said coverage, is most certainly on topic.
Seriously, who's been covering the unit?
Every source listed in the original post plus many others? Don't kid yourself either anything about Kurds will receive disproportionate coverage in the media. In fact, it seems the whole thing was a media stunt, considering the YPG is denying they even exist.
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