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[The East Marches II]

And orthodoxies are all drunken layabouts, which is why fastidious muslims always overrun them. I don't know why there are arabs who tolerate or tolerated the presence of their churches and their immoral presence within their lands.

In any case, I'm merely laying out the historical reason why pre-30's kurds were what they were.

>pre-30's
Uh, I think you're forgetting about the Kurds literally being a fifth column.
>Saddam bribes them to help him fight Iran
>they join Iran
>literally ship Iranian troops into their villages
>Saddam bombs their villages
>hooman sheelds die

Kurds can help foreign powers invade their country, but because kids died in Halabja alongside the foreign troops they were helping invade the country, they're the good guys, it's such bullshit.

^this post 110%

[Olerand]

You is referring to the poster. Obviously not the illegal invasion.

And if legality is determined by being punished, then some of the greatest monsters, mobsters, and murderers in history were in fact legally murdering people.

For the entire duration of their activity until they were punished, monsters, terrorists, and serial killers were thus committing legal acts.
Which means that in fact... they should not have been punished at all.

You're one step closer to understanding the relationship between law and power, my friend

I understand law. I understand power.

What I don't understand is how this relates to the fact that one can be powerful, and thus contravene the law, but not... make their actions actually legal.

Do you recognize that fact? That the strong breaking the law and going unpunished, which Americans of all people with your judicial system should be aware of, does not actually... change the law?

Murdering someone and failing to be punished does not make murder legal.

Illegaly invading a country despite the explicit wording of the American made Charter and going unpunished does not, actually, make your invasion any more legal.

[Olerand]

A point of contention even today.

Many will say he did it. Much like how the vast majority of the world will say America's invasion was illegal.
Which it was.

The courts and myself say otherwise. Good thing we aren't like the vast majority of the world. We may pay Sultans instead of restoring the peace and conducting a friendly police action!

Good thing you aren't indeed. What would the rest of the developed world have be proud of if you too didn't have stories about toddlers shooting their mothers in the face?

[The East Marches II]

The courts and myself say otherwise. Good thing we aren't like the vast majority of the world. We may pay Sultans instead of restoring the peace and conducting a friendly police action!

Good thing you aren't indeed. What would the rest of the developed world have be proud of if you too didn't have stories about toddlers shooting their mothers in the face?

Better toddlers shooting mothers than being too weak to even police your own borders. Enjoy the refugee quotas!

[Kubra]

And orthodoxies are all drunken layabouts, which is why fastidious muslims always overrun them. I don't know why there are arabs who tolerate or tolerated the presence of their churches and their immoral presence within their lands.

In any case, I'm merely laying out the historical reason why pre-30's kurds were what they were.

>pre-30's
Uh, I think you're forgetting about the Kurds literally being a fifth column.
>Saddam bribes them to help him fight Iran
>they join Iran
>literally ship Iranian troops into their villages
>Saddam bombs their villages
>hooman sheelds die

Kurds can help foreign powers invade their country, but because kids died in Halabja alongside the foreign troops they were helping invade the country, they're the good guys, it's such bullshit.

Oh so kurdish perfidy is giving Saddam the slip
The answer here, of course, is simple: wouldn't you? What's one power denying you statehood worth over another, except the resources you can leverage out of em and how much resources they can waste blasting each other? Why that's simply good european learning.

[Olerand]

Good thing you aren't indeed. What would the rest of the developed world have be proud of if you too didn't have stories about toddlers shooting their mothers in the face?

Better toddlers shooting mothers than being too weak to even police your own borders. Enjoy the refugee quotas!

An American talking about border control. There is irony here somewhere.

To not thread jack this thread any longer, I'll end with a simple question, how's the wall coming along? You catch those illegals yet?

[The Southern Confederacy]

Good thing you aren't indeed. What would the rest of the developed world have be proud of if you too didn't have stories about toddlers shooting their mothers in the face?

Better toddlers shooting mothers than being too weak to even police your own borders. Enjoy the refugee quotas!

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[United Muscovite Nations]

>pre-30's
Uh, I think you're forgetting about the Kurds literally being a fifth column.
>Saddam bribes them to help him fight Iran
>they join Iran
>literally ship Iranian troops into their villages
>Saddam bombs their villages
>hooman sheelds die

Kurds can help foreign powers invade their country, but because kids died in Halabja alongside the foreign troops they were helping invade the country, they're the good guys, it's such bullshit.

Oh so kurdish perfidy is giving Saddam the slip
The answer here, of course, is simple: wouldn't you? What's one power denying you statehood worth over another, except the resources you can leverage out of em and how much resources they can waste blasting each other?

The only thing the Kurds want to do is betray their host state so they can take land from their neighbors. It's what they've always done, and they still do it. Even now, they are occupying non-Kurdish land and bussing their own people in.

[The East Marches II]

Better toddlers shooting mothers than being too weak to even police your own borders. Enjoy the refugee quotas!

An American talking about border control. There is irony here somewhere.

To not thread jack this thread any longer, I'll end with a simple question, how's the wall coming along? You catch those illegals yet?

Better than your bribes, but I understand, you are taking a page from your leader. Your thoughts must be too grandiose for us mere mortals to understand. One day I hope I can hear your thoughts on the Libya crossing migrants and not just the ones from Turkey!

[Olerand]

Oh so kurdish perfidy is giving Saddam the slip
The answer here, of course, is simple: wouldn't you? What's one power denying you statehood worth over another, except the resources you can leverage out of em and how much resources they can waste blasting each other?

The only thing the Kurds want to do is betray their host state so they can take land from their neighbors. It's what they've always done, and they still do it. Even now, they are occupying non-Kurdish land and bussing their own people in.

As opposed to all the other Stateless nations of the world, which are textbook examples in docility. Just take the Kurds' neighbors, the Palestinians.

[United Muscovite Nations]

The only thing the Kurds want to do is betray their host state so they can take land from their neighbors. It's what they've always done, and they still do it. Even now, they are occupying non-Kurdish land and bussing their own people in.

As opposed to all the other Stateless nations of the world, which are textbook examples in docility. Just take the Kurds' neighbors, the Palestinians.

The Palestinians had their state conquered by foreign invaders. The Kurds are the foreign invaders, taking land from their neighbors.

[Kubra]

Oh so kurdish perfidy is giving Saddam the slip
The answer here, of course, is simple: wouldn't you? What's one power denying you statehood worth over another, except the resources you can leverage out of em and how much resources they can waste blasting each other?

The only thing the Kurds want to do is betray their host state so they can take land from their neighbors. It's what they've always done, and they still do it. Even now, they are occupying non-Kurdish land and bussing their own people in.

oh and good boi saddam dindu nothing, didn't wanna annex nothing from his neighbours or anything.
Really now, this is merely a matter of you preferring one form of military muscling over another, your preferred form involving sarin.

[Olerand]

An American talking about border control. There is irony here somewhere.

To not thread jack this thread any longer, I'll end with a simple question, how's the wall coming along? You catch those illegals yet?

Better than your bribes, but I understand, you are taking a page from your leader. Your thoughts must be too grandiose for us mere mortals to understand. One day I hope I can hear your thoughts on the Libya crossing migrants and not just the ones from Turkey!

Our bribes work. Does your wall?

Get back on topic please, the nation of the never-existing solar powered wall opposed by an entire political faction that doesn't believe in borders (at least our left does believe borders exist), shouldn't be lecturing anyone on this topic.

[Olerand]

As opposed to all the other Stateless nations of the world, which are textbook examples in docility. Just take the Kurds' neighbors, the Palestinians.

The Palestinians had their state conquered by foreign invaders. The Kurds are the foreign invaders, taking land from their neighbors.

How did the Kurds get where they are?

By magic?

[The East Marches II]

Better than your bribes, but I understand, you are taking a page from your leader. Your thoughts must be too grandiose for us mere mortals to understand. One day I hope I can hear your thoughts on the Libya crossing migrants and not just the ones from Turkey!

Our bribes work. Does your wall?

Get back on topic please, the nation of the never-existing solar powered wall opposed by an entire political faction that doesn't believe in borders (at least our left does believe borders exist), shouldn't be lecturing anyone on this topic.

Tell that to your Parisians and their seperate space for the oppressed classes! Alas, you too have succumb to the infection. Unlike you however, our left didn't sell out its socialist name for neoliberal economic policies and migrants. Thats your so called Socialist party. Aren't you still a member of it? :^)

edit: The Sultan is rumbling for more money, will you appease him as you appeased Hitler? You may find no end to his appetite.

[Greek Orthodox Christian Church]

As opposed to all the other Stateless nations of the world, which are textbook examples in docility. Just take the Kurds' neighbors, the Palestinians.

The Palestinians had their state conquered by foreign invaders. The Kurds are the foreign invaders, taking land from their neighbors.

To hell the Palestinians and they're Arabic sissies.

[United Muscovite Nations]

The Palestinians had their state conquered by foreign invaders. The Kurds are the foreign invaders, taking land from their neighbors.

How did the Kurds get where they are?

By magic?

They're from a small area in what is today Iran.

[Olerand]

Our bribes work. Does your wall?

Get back on topic please, the nation of the never-existing solar powered wall opposed by an entire political faction that doesn't believe in borders (at least our left does believe borders exist), shouldn't be lecturing anyone on this topic.

Tell that to your Parisians and their seperate space for the oppressed classes! Alas, you too have succumb to the infection. Unlike you however, our left didn't sell out its socialist name for neoliberal economic policies and migrants. Thats your so called Socialist party. Aren't you still a member of it? :^)

We sold out to neoliberalism and migrants and yours didn't? What's left of FDR in your left?

First, all Kurds are sociopaths, and now this. The internet is truly just too much.

[Olerand]

How did the Kurds get where they are?

By magic?

They're from a small area in what is today Iran.

I'm aware. How did they get where they are?

[The East Marches II]

How did the Kurds get where they are?

By magic?

They're from a small area in what is today Iran.

Crypto-Persians, I knew it

[United Muscovite Nations]

They're from a small area in what is today Iran.

I'm aware. How did they get where they are?

Same way the Turks did, by moving in and driving out the native inhabitants.

[The Southern Confederacy]

I understand law. I understand power.

What I don't understand is how this relates to the fact that one can be powerful, and thus contravene the law, but not... make their actions actually legal.

A quirk of post-Enlightenment law and the novel (as far as human history goes) idea that law is somehow detached from power. That most legal systems still exist in this state is an unstable bug that will self-correct in time.

Do you recognize that fact? That the strong breaking the law and going unpunished, which Americans of all people with your judicial system should be aware of, does not actually... change the law?

In the books, no, but in practice -- in real-law -- yes.

Murdering someone and failing to be punished does not make murder legal.

Tell that to Raskolnikov.

Illegaly invading a country despite the explicit wording of the American made Charter and going unpunished does not, actually, make your invasion any more legal.

The UN Charter is anything but explicit, and if it was explicit in its prohibition of non-mandated invasions, it still would not matter because law prostrates itself before power -- yes, even in your judicially-perfect France.

[Greek Orthodox Christian Church]

I'm aware. How did they get where they are?

Same way the Turks did, by moving in and driving out the native inhabitants.

The natives are still there, the Turks are a mix of Kurds Armenians and Greeks, where do you think they came from? Mongolia? HAHA!

[Kubra]

I'm aware. How did they get where they are?

Same way the Turks did, by moving in and driving out the native inhabitants.

And when did this event occur

[United Muscovite Nations]

Same way the Turks did, by moving in and driving out the native inhabitants.

And when did this event occur

It wasn't a singular event, happened over time.