Queer Unit Formed Against ISIS

[Grenartia]

Why was their formation necessary? I suppose I can't complain, they are fighting ISIS after all.

Pretty much. Who knows?

As a queer person, allow me to formulate a hypothesis. Perhaps anti-Daesh volunteers (both foreign and local) realized there needed to be a fighting force that didn't engage in oppression of LGBT+ people (either overt or covert). Being treated like a second class citizen in the other units isn't exactly conducive to morale.

Please ignore the doublepost.

[Washington Resistance Army]

One would think that after suffering under the yoke of Daesh that they wouldn't give much of a shit about any flag flying over them so long as it was opposed to Daesh.

I imagine more than a few would still be okay with killing the gays.

[Grenartia]

Why was their formation necessary? I suppose I can't complain, they are fighting ISIS after all.

Pretty much. Who knows?

As a queer person, allow me to formulate a hypothesis. Perhaps anti-Daesh volunteers (both foreign and local) realized there needed to be a fighting force that didn't engage in oppression of LGBT+ people (either overt or covert). Being treated like a second class citizen in the other units isn't exactly conducive to morale.

Please ignore the doublepost.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Pretty much. Who knows?

As a queer person, allow me to formulate a hypothesis. Perhaps anti-Daesh volunteers (both foreign and local) realized there needed to be a fighting force that didn't engage in oppression of LGBT+ people (either overt or covert). Being treated like a second class citizen in the other units isn't exactly conducive to morale.

Maybe foreigners, but I've never met an Arab in the Mid East who was pro-LGBT.

[Grenartia]

One would think that after suffering under the yoke of Daesh that they wouldn't give much of a shit about any flag flying over them so long as it was opposed to Daesh.

I imagine more than a few would still be okay with killing the gays.

I'm pretty sure Islam has some sort of commandment to not be an ungrateful bastard.

[Cylonarus]

[b][size=175]Whos in the mood for a shitpost?

[Grenartia]

As a queer person, allow me to formulate a hypothesis. Perhaps anti-Daesh volunteers (both foreign and local) realized there needed to be a fighting force that didn't engage in oppression of LGBT+ people (either overt or covert). Being treated like a second class citizen in the other units isn't exactly conducive to morale.

Maybe foreigners, but I've never met an Arab in the Mid East who was pro-LGBT.

Perhaps you didn't hang around the right people. There's certainly Arabs in the Mid East who are themselves LGBT, and it wouldn't make sense for there to not also be Arabs in the Mid East who are allies.

[FelrikTheDeleted]

Pretty much. Who knows?

As a queer person, allow me to formulate a hypothesis. Perhaps anti-Daesh volunteers (both foreign and local) realized there needed to be a fighting force that didn't engage in oppression of LGBT+ people (either overt or covert). Being treated like a second class citizen in the other units isn't exactly conducive to morale.

Good point.

[Washington Resistance Army]

I imagine more than a few would still be okay with killing the gays.

I'm pretty sure Islam has some sort of commandment to not be an ungrateful bastard.

There's also a lot of disdain for LGBT's in Islam, and even in places like Syria I'm pretty homosexuality is still flatly illegal.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Maybe foreigners, but I've never met an Arab in the Mid East who was pro-LGBT.

Perhaps you didn't hang around the right people. There's certainly Arabs in the Mid East who are themselves LGBT, and it wouldn't make sense for there to not also be Arabs in the Mid East who are allies.

The Arabs I hang out with, by demographic (by poll in the group I'm in) are about 50% Muslim, 30% Christian, and 20% atheist. If you were going to find a more liberal group of Arabs, you probably wouldn't find it in rural Syria.

[Grenartia]

I'm pretty sure Islam has some sort of commandment to not be an ungrateful bastard.

There's also a lot of disdain for LGBT's in Islam, and even in places like Syria I'm pretty homosexuality is still flatly illegal.

I won't deny that.

But I am saying that hospitality is literally sacred in Islam, and that this situation can be considered an extension of that.

[Grenartia]

Perhaps you didn't hang around the right people. There's certainly Arabs in the Mid East who are themselves LGBT, and it wouldn't make sense for there to not also be Arabs in the Mid East who are allies.

The Arabs I hang out with, by demographic (by poll in the group I'm in) are about 50% Muslim, 30% Christian, and 20% atheist. If you were going to find a more liberal group of Arabs, you probably wouldn't find it in rural Syria.

Perhaps they're more common among the Kurds? From the IRPGF's tweet, there seems to be some affiliation with the YPG and YPJ.

[United Muscovite Nations]

The Arabs I hang out with, by demographic (by poll in the group I'm in) are about 50% Muslim, 30% Christian, and 20% atheist. If you were going to find a more liberal group of Arabs, you probably wouldn't find it in rural Syria.

Perhaps they're more common among the Kurds? From the IRPGF's tweet, there seems to be some affiliation with the YPG and YPJ.

In that case it's probably just as bad. Kurds aren't well liked among Arabs, or really any ethnic group in the Mid East (because the Kurds have tried to ethnically cleanse them all).

[Bakery Hill]

Pretty much. Who knows?

As a queer person, allow me to formulate a hypothesis. Perhaps anti-Daesh volunteers (both foreign and local) realized there needed to be a fighting force that didn't engage in oppression of LGBT+ people (either overt or covert). Being treated like a second class citizen in the other units isn't exactly conducive to morale.

From what has been said, they are probably predominately foreign. Their tabur operates under the international volunteers group, rather than the YPG. That said I can understand the rationale.

[Bakery Hill]

Perhaps they're more common among the Kurds? From the IRPGF's tweet, there seems to be some affiliation with the YPG and YPJ.

In that case it's probably just as bad. Kurds aren't well liked among Arabs, or really any ethnic group in the Mid East (because the Kurds have tried to ethnically cleanse them all).

Shilling for Saddam in 10..

[Eligiud]

That's decent, I'd rather not have them on the "moderate terrorist" side.

They should also combat that sort of thing in other countries too, not only extremists are anti-gay, but *ahem* certain Arab countries..

Oh, and Chechnya, they're not too keen on homosexuals either, in fact, they're probably the same level.

From what I've seen, Russia's gotten slightly better, but still has Chechnya, and others.

[Olerand]

As a queer person, allow me to formulate a hypothesis. Perhaps anti-Daesh volunteers (both foreign and local) realized there needed to be a fighting force that didn't engage in oppression of LGBT+ people (either overt or covert). Being treated like a second class citizen in the other units isn't exactly conducive to morale.

Maybe foreigners, but I've never met an Arab in the Mid East who was pro-LGBT.

I have. Secular arabs, from Tunis and Beirut mostly. Many living in Europe.

None from backwater (by Syrian standards) Raqqa.

[The Southern Confederacy]

Wtf, i love ISIS now

[Olerand]

I imagine more than a few would still be okay with killing the gays.

I'm pretty sure Islam has some sort of commandment to not be an ungrateful bastard.

Uhm... Nope. Particularly not when your liberators are "leouat", or "of the people of Lot".

As in, the people who did not listen to Lot and died in Soddom and Gomorrah.

[Grenartia]

Wtf, i love ISIS now

wow such edge many offends

[Salus Maior]

I imagine more than a few would still be okay with killing the gays.

I'm pretty sure Islam has some sort of commandment to not be an ungrateful bastard.

Yeah, Americans are loved in Iraq.

[United Muscovite Nations]

In that case it's probably just as bad. Kurds aren't well liked among Arabs, or really any ethnic group in the Mid East (because the Kurds have tried to ethnically cleanse them all).

Shilling for Saddam in 10..

It's not even shilling, and not even for Saddam at that point. Kurds were the primary forces carrying out the Armenian and Assyrian genocides, and the Kurds did help betray their country even after many concessions had been given to them. It's pretty much a stereotype that you shouldn't trust Kurds because they'll stab you in the back. The current president of Iraqi Kurdistan was an enemy of Saddam, then an ally, then an enemy again.

[United Muscovite Nations]

I'm pretty sure Islam has some sort of commandment to not be an ungrateful bastard.

Yeah, Americans are loved in Iraq.

>implying Iraqis have anything to be grateful to Americans for

[Bakery Hill]

Shilling for Saddam in 10..

It's pretty much a stereotype that you shouldn't trust Kurds because they'll stab you in the back. The current president of Iraqi Kurdistan was an enemy of Saddam, then an ally, then an enemy again.

What? Like Saddam and the United State? Almost as if that's how politics... works?

[Olerand]

I'm pretty sure Islam has some sort of commandment to not be an ungrateful bastard.

Yeah, Americans are loved in Iraq.

You should use Afghanistan as an example. Much, much stronger to this point.

Actually, Iraq isn't even relevant. The Shia and the Kurds, the only groups that have benefited from America's illegal invasion, are pretty pro-American (for their own interests of course).