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by The Krogan » Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:07 am

by Benuty » Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:07 am

by United Muscovite Nations » Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:08 am
Major-Tom wrote:United Muscovite Nations wrote:Ah, I remember when I was just on the first stage of taking the Ba'athpill
Whaaa.
Don't think I'll ever become a...Ba'athist, is it? Partly because that ain't me, partly because I'm not that well versed in some areas of politics and hardly know what it means.

by Danceria » Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:08 am

by Salus Maior » Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:10 am
Conserative Morality wrote:Salus Maior wrote:I imagine the guys these people are fighting alongside aren't the most friendly to homosexual lifestyles either.
Opinions in Rojava are mixed, I hear, on the subject of LGBT rights. The more radical members/fighters tend to have ties to things like the PKK and HDP and so have a more tolerant outlook than most of MENA, but there's still a lot of prejudice with most ordinary people despite an increasing willingness to discuss the topic.

by Liriena » Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:10 am
Salus Maior wrote:Benuty wrote:Its also not wise broadcasting to the enemy, and their tradition of roof executions...
I imagine the guys these people are fighting alongside aren't the most friendly to homosexual lifestyles either.
It is the Middle East, after all. I wouldn't be surprised if there were reports of abuse of this unit by supposed allies in the future.
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by Conserative Morality » Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:11 am
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Yeah, it's Ba'athist.
Ba'athism was an ideology created by a few NEET Greek Orthodox and Assyrian Christian Syrians and Iraqis as an ideology that would be able to unify the Arab people of different faiths. The goal was to create a unified Arab state with an economy inspired by a mix of Soviet, Nazi, and Italian Fascist economic ideas. It caught on in Iraq and Syria, and there were attempts to unify the two countries before the Syrian-Iraqi Ba'athist split in 1979 (the Syrians refused to help Saddam fight the Iranian Islamists).
The stages of the Ba'athpill (the process by which one realizes that Saddam was right) are, as followed:
Stage One: Bushpilled -- the Bushpilled individual thinks that Saddam was a horrible dictator who needed to be ousted as he was a threat to the United States
Stage Two: Disillusionment with the Bushpill -- as the disastrous effects of the American invasion of Iraq sink in, the subject begins to think that, while they maintain Saddam should have been overthrown, that the United States shouldn't have caused this
Stage Three: Cruzpill (named after Cruz's interview on Meet the Press) -- the Cruzpilled subject understands that the situation in Iraq has become worse since the ousting of Saddam Hussein; while they don't approve of Saddam, they acknowledged that his government was better than anarchy
Stage Four: Ba'athpill-lite -- The subject accepts that Saddam's presence prevented aggressive Iranian activities and maintained a non-Islamist government that guaranteed a high standard of living in the face of Wahabist barbarism, Kurdish agrarianism, and Iranian aggression. A common phrase may be "Saddam was a brutal leader, but you need a brutal leader to lead a brutal people." This subject also opposes American intervention elsewhere.
Stage Five: Ba'athpill -- The Ba'athpilled subject acknowledges that Saddam Hussein's leadership and policies not only prevented the degeneration of Iraq, but also could have provided the foundation for a renewed Arab nation with conservative, multireligious ideals that would bring about a new Arab golden age of culture, art, learning, cooperation, and security.


by Salus Maior » Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:13 am
Liriena wrote:Salus Maior wrote:
I imagine the guys these people are fighting alongside aren't the most friendly to homosexual lifestyles either.
It is the Middle East, after all. I wouldn't be surprised if there were reports of abuse of this unit by supposed allies in the future.
Actually, it appears that all of the IRPGF's allies are revolutionary secularist groups, so I imagine that the odds are on their side.

by Gloriana Americana » Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:13 am
United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Yeah, it's Ba'athist.
Ba'athism was an ideology created by a few NEET Greek Orthodox and Assyrian Christian Syrians and Iraqis as an ideology that would be able to unify the Arab people of different faiths. The goal was to create a unified Arab state with an economy inspired by a mix of Soviet, Nazi, and Italian Fascist economic ideas. It caught on in Iraq and Syria, and there were attempts to unify the two countries before the Syrian-Iraqi Ba'athist split in 1979 (the Syrians refused to help Saddam fight the Iranian Islamists).
The stages of the Ba'athpill (the process by which one realizes that Saddam was right) are, as followed:
Stage One: Bushpilled -- the Bushpilled individual thinks that Saddam was a horrible dictator who needed to be ousted as he was a threat to the United States
Stage Two: Disillusionment with the Bushpill -- as the disastrous effects of the American invasion of Iraq sink in, the subject begins to think that, while they maintain Saddam should have been overthrown, that the United States shouldn't have caused this
Stage Three: Cruzpill (named after Cruz's interview on Meet the Press) -- the Cruzpilled subject understands that the situation in Iraq has become worse since the ousting of Saddam Hussein; while they don't approve of Saddam, they acknowledged that his government was better than anarchy
Stage Four: Ba'athpill-lite -- The subject accepts that Saddam's presence prevented aggressive Iranian activities and maintained a non-Islamist government that guaranteed a high standard of living in the face of Wahabist barbarism, Kurdish agrarianism, and Iranian aggression. A common phrase may be "Saddam was a brutal leader, but you need a brutal leader to lead a brutal people." This subject also opposes American intervention elsewhere.
Stage Five: Ba'athpill -- The Ba'athpilled subject acknowledges that Saddam Hussein's leadership and policies not only prevented the degeneration of Iraq, but also could have provided the foundation for a renewed Arab nation with conservative, multireligious ideals that would bring about a new Arab golden age of culture, art, learning, cooperation, and security.

by Gloriana Americana » Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:14 am
Gloriana Americana wrote:Benuty wrote:He didn't have complete control of it especially after the Gulf War with those insurgency movements from the Shiites.
More control than Assad.United Muscovite Nations wrote:Yeah, it's Ba'athist.
Ba'athism was an ideology created by a few NEET Greek Orthodox and Assyrian Christian Syrians and Iraqis as an ideology that would be able to unify the Arab people of different faiths. The goal was to create a unified Arab state with an economy inspired by a mix of Soviet, Nazi, and Italian Fascist economic ideas. It caught on in Iraq and Syria, and there were attempts to unify the two countries before the Syrian-Iraqi Ba'athist split in 1979 (the Syrians refused to help Saddam fight the Iranian Islamists).
The stages of the Ba'athpill (the process by which one realizes that Saddam was right) are, as followed:
Stage One: Bushpilled -- the Bushpilled individual thinks that Saddam was a horrible dictator who needed to be ousted as he was a threat to the United States
Stage Two: Disillusionment with the Bushpill -- as the disastrous effects of the American invasion of Iraq sink in, the subject begins to think that, while they maintain Saddam should have been overthrown, that the United States shouldn't have caused this
Stage Three: Cruzpill (named after Cruz's interview on Meet the Press) -- the Cruzpilled subject understands that the situation in Iraq has become worse since the ousting of Saddam Hussein; while they don't approve of Saddam, they acknowledged that his government was better than anarchy
Stage Four: Ba'athpill-lite -- The subject accepts that Saddam's presence prevented aggressive Iranian activities and maintained a non-Islamist government that guaranteed a high standard of living in the face of Wahabist barbarism, Kurdish agrarianism, and Iranian aggression. A common phrase may be "Saddam was a brutal leader, but you need a brutal leader to lead a brutal people." This subject also opposes American intervention elsewhere.
Stage Five: Ba'athpill -- The Ba'athpilled subject acknowledges that Saddam Hussein's leadership and policies not only prevented the degeneration of Iraq, but also could have provided the foundation for a renewed Arab nation with conservative, multireligious ideals that would bring about a new Arab golden age of culture, art, learning, cooperation, and security.
Wheres the part where you realize Saddam was a dickhead and that he would have created a tyrannical hellhole even greater than his own if he had been left in power, but still recognize that this is better than a Daesh-like anti-civilization?

by Liriena » Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:14 am
Salus Maior wrote:Liriena wrote:Actually, it appears that all of the IRPGF's allies are revolutionary secularist groups, so I imagine that the odds are on their side.
Just because they're secular, does not mean they're not prejudiced against LGBTs. Such is entrenched in the Middle East.
After all, Assad's Syria was secular but they didn't have LGBT rights.
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by Al Hashka » Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:15 am
United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Yeah, it's Ba'athist.
Ba'athism was an ideology created by a few NEET Greek Orthodox and Assyrian Christian Syrians and Iraqis as an ideology that would be able to unify the Arab people of different faiths. The goal was to create a unified Arab state with an economy inspired by a mix of Soviet, Nazi, and Italian Fascist economic ideas. It caught on in Iraq and Syria, and there were attempts to unify the two countries before the Syrian-Iraqi Ba'athist split in 1979 (the Syrians refused to help Saddam fight the Iranian Islamists).
The stages of the Ba'athpill (the process by which one realizes that Saddam was right) are, as followed:
Stage One: Bushpilled -- the Bushpilled individual thinks that Saddam was a horrible dictator who needed to be ousted as he was a threat to the United States
Stage Two: Disillusionment with the Bushpill -- as the disastrous effects of the American invasion of Iraq sink in, the subject begins to think that, while they maintain Saddam should have been overthrown, that the United States shouldn't have caused this
Stage Three: Cruzpill (named after Cruz's interview on Meet the Press) -- the Cruzpilled subject understands that the situation in Iraq has become worse since the ousting of Saddam Hussein; while they don't approve of Saddam, they acknowledged that his government was better than anarchy
Stage Four: Ba'athpill-lite -- The subject accepts that Saddam's presence prevented aggressive Iranian activities and maintained a non-Islamist government that guaranteed a high standard of living in the face of Wahabist barbarism, Kurdish agrarianism, and Iranian aggression. A common phrase may be "Saddam was a brutal leader, but you need a brutal leader to lead a brutal people." This subject also opposes American intervention elsewhere.
Stage Five: Ba'athpill -- The Ba'athpilled subject acknowledges that Saddam Hussein's leadership and policies not only prevented the degeneration of Iraq, but also could have provided the foundation for a renewed Arab nation with conservative, multireligious ideals that would bring about a new Arab golden age of culture, art, learning, cooperation, and security.

by The East Marches II » Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:15 am
Conserative Morality wrote:United Muscovite Nations wrote:Yeah, it's Ba'athist.
Ba'athism was an ideology created by a few NEET Greek Orthodox and Assyrian Christian Syrians and Iraqis as an ideology that would be able to unify the Arab people of different faiths. The goal was to create a unified Arab state with an economy inspired by a mix of Soviet, Nazi, and Italian Fascist economic ideas. It caught on in Iraq and Syria, and there were attempts to unify the two countries before the Syrian-Iraqi Ba'athist split in 1979 (the Syrians refused to help Saddam fight the Iranian Islamists).
The stages of the Ba'athpill (the process by which one realizes that Saddam was right) are, as followed:
Stage One: Bushpilled -- the Bushpilled individual thinks that Saddam was a horrible dictator who needed to be ousted as he was a threat to the United States
Stage Two: Disillusionment with the Bushpill -- as the disastrous effects of the American invasion of Iraq sink in, the subject begins to think that, while they maintain Saddam should have been overthrown, that the United States shouldn't have caused this
Stage Three: Cruzpill (named after Cruz's interview on Meet the Press) -- the Cruzpilled subject understands that the situation in Iraq has become worse since the ousting of Saddam Hussein; while they don't approve of Saddam, they acknowledged that his government was better than anarchy
Stage Four: Ba'athpill-lite -- The subject accepts that Saddam's presence prevented aggressive Iranian activities and maintained a non-Islamist government that guaranteed a high standard of living in the face of Wahabist barbarism, Kurdish agrarianism, and Iranian aggression. A common phrase may be "Saddam was a brutal leader, but you need a brutal leader to lead a brutal people." This subject also opposes American intervention elsewhere.
Stage Five: Ba'athpill -- The Ba'athpilled subject acknowledges that Saddam Hussein's leadership and policies not only prevented the degeneration of Iraq, but also could have provided the foundation for a renewed Arab nation with conservative, multireligious ideals that would bring about a new Arab golden age of culture, art, learning, cooperation, and security.
Nasserism or bust.

by United Muscovite Nations » Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:16 am
Al Hashka wrote:United Muscovite Nations wrote:Yeah, it's Ba'athist.
Ba'athism was an ideology created by a few NEET Greek Orthodox and Assyrian Christian Syrians and Iraqis as an ideology that would be able to unify the Arab people of different faiths. The goal was to create a unified Arab state with an economy inspired by a mix of Soviet, Nazi, and Italian Fascist economic ideas. It caught on in Iraq and Syria, and there were attempts to unify the two countries before the Syrian-Iraqi Ba'athist split in 1979 (the Syrians refused to help Saddam fight the Iranian Islamists).
The stages of the Ba'athpill (the process by which one realizes that Saddam was right) are, as followed:
Stage One: Bushpilled -- the Bushpilled individual thinks that Saddam was a horrible dictator who needed to be ousted as he was a threat to the United States
Stage Two: Disillusionment with the Bushpill -- as the disastrous effects of the American invasion of Iraq sink in, the subject begins to think that, while they maintain Saddam should have been overthrown, that the United States shouldn't have caused this
Stage Three: Cruzpill (named after Cruz's interview on Meet the Press) -- the Cruzpilled subject understands that the situation in Iraq has become worse since the ousting of Saddam Hussein; while they don't approve of Saddam, they acknowledged that his government was better than anarchy
Stage Four: Ba'athpill-lite -- The subject accepts that Saddam's presence prevented aggressive Iranian activities and maintained a non-Islamist government that guaranteed a high standard of living in the face of Wahabist barbarism, Kurdish agrarianism, and Iranian aggression. A common phrase may be "Saddam was a brutal leader, but you need a brutal leader to lead a brutal people." This subject also opposes American intervention elsewhere.
Stage Five: Ba'athpill -- The Ba'athpilled subject acknowledges that Saddam Hussein's leadership and policies not only prevented the degeneration of Iraq, but also could have provided the foundation for a renewed Arab nation with conservative, multireligious ideals that would bring about a new Arab golden age of culture, art, learning, cooperation, and security.
>Implying that Saddam was a true Ba'athist which he wasn't.

by Gloriana Americana » Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:16 am
Al Hashka wrote:United Muscovite Nations wrote:Yeah, it's Ba'athist.
Ba'athism was an ideology created by a few NEET Greek Orthodox and Assyrian Christian Syrians and Iraqis as an ideology that would be able to unify the Arab people of different faiths. The goal was to create a unified Arab state with an economy inspired by a mix of Soviet, Nazi, and Italian Fascist economic ideas. It caught on in Iraq and Syria, and there were attempts to unify the two countries before the Syrian-Iraqi Ba'athist split in 1979 (the Syrians refused to help Saddam fight the Iranian Islamists).
The stages of the Ba'athpill (the process by which one realizes that Saddam was right) are, as followed:
Stage One: Bushpilled -- the Bushpilled individual thinks that Saddam was a horrible dictator who needed to be ousted as he was a threat to the United States
Stage Two: Disillusionment with the Bushpill -- as the disastrous effects of the American invasion of Iraq sink in, the subject begins to think that, while they maintain Saddam should have been overthrown, that the United States shouldn't have caused this
Stage Three: Cruzpill (named after Cruz's interview on Meet the Press) -- the Cruzpilled subject understands that the situation in Iraq has become worse since the ousting of Saddam Hussein; while they don't approve of Saddam, they acknowledged that his government was better than anarchy
Stage Four: Ba'athpill-lite -- The subject accepts that Saddam's presence prevented aggressive Iranian activities and maintained a non-Islamist government that guaranteed a high standard of living in the face of Wahabist barbarism, Kurdish agrarianism, and Iranian aggression. A common phrase may be "Saddam was a brutal leader, but you need a brutal leader to lead a brutal people." This subject also opposes American intervention elsewhere.
Stage Five: Ba'athpill -- The Ba'athpilled subject acknowledges that Saddam Hussein's leadership and policies not only prevented the degeneration of Iraq, but also could have provided the foundation for a renewed Arab nation with conservative, multireligious ideals that would bring about a new Arab golden age of culture, art, learning, cooperation, and security.
>Implying that Saddam was a true Ba'athist which he wasn't.

by Krasny-Volny » Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:17 am

by The East Marches II » Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:18 am

by The East Marches II » Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:19 am

by Conserative Morality » Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:20 am

by The East Marches II » Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:24 am

by Salus Maior » Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:25 am
Gloriana Americana wrote:
Or better yet: The part where you realize all this could have been easily avoided if we had fought the Mujahideen instead of the Soviets in Afghanistan?

by Gloriana Americana » Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:27 am
Salus Maior wrote:Gloriana Americana wrote:
Or better yet: The part where you realize all this could have been easily avoided if we had fought the Mujahideen instead of the Soviets in Afghanistan?
But that would've meant being friends with the Reds.
And besides, they sided with the Vietcong in Vietnam. So really it was karma.
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