Socialism: What do we do now?

[Brocialist]

Don't feel so bad you have Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam, China and Venezuela.

I agree. We need to defend these countries and stand with them against western imperialism.

[Imperializt Russia]

Marx was allegedly of Jewish descent and this supposed Jewish connection was used by the Nazis to try and discredit communism through their actually antisemitic propaganda.

They developed the term "cultural bolshevism" which has since morphed into the modern phrase "cultural marxism", popularised by Anders Behring Breivik, white nationalist communities who lionise him, and from there outwards, anti-SJWs because the link between anti-SJWs and white nationalism is very, very close.

Being an anti SJW does not make someone a white nationalist.

Good thing I didn't say that then.

You've literally called your nation "brocialist" so I won't ever respond to you again, but I ask you to reflect on my wording.

[Imperializt Russia]

I'm not a socialist but I do believe that they need to change if they want to "revive" the left.

IMO socialists are too stubborn. They refuse to reject economic principles that don't work and refuse to even slightly deviate from their 20th century ideologies. On the other hand, the far-right is becoming increasingly more flexible, which is why it has become so popular in the last few years. The alt-right and alt-light "movements" prove that flexibility works and the left ignores that for some reason.

So what socialists must do in order to become relevant in the 21th century is change and become less intolerant of different opinions. They must focus more on economic issues and accept some free-market ideas that are proven to work. They should also stop highlighting minor first-world problems, like they used to. People don't take the left seriously because the (far) right-wing parties and groups are way more realist and spend their time talking about more serious issues.

Socialism is a product of nineteenth century thinking, but OK. Capitalism also hails from around this same timeframe, not like age matters here.

This sounds remarkably like saying "socialists should stop being socialists, please stop being socialists so I can pretend my own ideology lies unopposed and the victor by default".

[Trotskylvania]

Don't feel so bad you have Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam, China and Venezuela.

I agree. We need to defend these countries and stand with them against western imperialism.

You literally rolled off the tankie assembly line

[United Muscovite Nations]

Don't feel so bad you have Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam, China and Venezuela.

I agree. We need to defend these countries and stand with them against western imperialism.

>the decaying remnants of the once vast, once might, once feared Second World
>"I agree [we shouldn't feel too bad]"

[Democratic Communist Federation]

Marx was allegedly of Jewish descent and this supposed Jewish connection was used by the Nazis to try and discredit communism through their actually antisemitic propaganda.

They developed the term "cultural bolshevism" which has since morphed into the modern phrase "cultural marxism", popularised by Anders Behring Breivik, white nationalist communities who lionise him, and from there outwards, anti-SJWs because the link between anti-SJWs and white nationalism is very, very close.

The white nationalist, and Richard Nixon's speechwriter, Patrick Buchanan has sadly normalized the term cultural Marxism.

[Genivaria]

Don't feel so bad you have Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam, China and Venezuela.

I agree. We need to defend these countries and stand with them against western imperialism.

What about eastern imperialism?

[Zarnazia]

Don't feel so bad you have Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam, China and Venezuela.

I don't think venezuela is going to be socialist for much longer seeing how it is getting into a civil war.

[Greater Miami Shores]

Marx was allegedly of Jewish descent and this supposed Jewish connection was used by the Nazis to try and discredit communism through their actually antisemitic propaganda.

They developed the term "cultural bolshevism" which has since morphed into the modern phrase "cultural marxism", popularised by Anders Behring Breivik, white nationalist communities who lionise him, and from there outwards, anti-SJWs because the link between anti-SJWs and white nationalism is very, very close.

The white nationalist, and Richard Nixon's speechwriter, Patrick Buchanan has sadly normalized the term cultural Marxism.

lol, I love it, alright Pat.

[Trotskylvania]

The white nationalist, and Richard Nixon's speechwriter, Patrick Buchanan has sadly normalized the term cultural Marxism.

lol, I love it, alright Pat.

Of course you do.

You don't seem to care about anything other than getting one over on old Fidel.

[Wysten]

When nearly every time socialism is tried and ends in the deaths of millions but let's see what happens if we try it this time.

[Wysten]

Don't feel so bad you have Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam, China and Venezuela.

I agree. We need to defend these countries and stand with them against western imperialism.

Oh no not that western imperialism that brings civility and good values where every man can fail and succed at his own choosing.

[Democratic Communist Federation]

lol, I love it, alright Pat.

Are you, like Buchanan, a paleoconservative?

[Kubra]

I agree. We need to defend these countries and stand with them against western imperialism.

Oh no not that western imperialism that brings civility and good values where every man can fail and succed at his own choosing.

could you define good values

[Washington Resistance Army]

lol, I love it, alright Pat.

Of course you do.

You don't seem to care about anything other than getting one over on old Fidel.

Tbqh a lot of Cubans are that way.

[Wysten]

Oh no not that western imperialism that brings civility and good values where every man can fail and succed at his own choosing.

could you define good values

Love thy enemy all men are created equal.

[Autonomous Titoists]

could you define good values

Love thy enemy all men are created equal.

What does that even mean? Biblical quotes and nonsense? Do you have an argument, if not why are you here?
Western society loves its enemies to the point it bombs their children and gets mad when another group of half cocked asshats go off and try to do the whole death to the west schtick. On top of that men are created so unequal in the United States that it is necessary to argue with people that the poor deserve to continue living. Quit sniffing your own farts, its impeding your ability to be coherent and form an argument.

[Imperializt Russia]

could you define good values

Love thy enemy all men are created equal.

Literally what socialism stands for, just without the god nonsense.

[War Gears]

Love thy enemy all men are created equal.

Literally what socialism stands for, just without the god nonsense.

Except for the Tsar's family, President McKinley, the bourgeois, the workers who were killed by illegalists, etc.

[Wysten]

Love thy enemy all men are created equal.

What does that even mean? Biblical quotes and nonsense? Do you have an argument, if not why are you here?
Western society loves its enemies to the point it bombs their children and gets mad when another group of half cocked asshats go off and try to do the whole death to the west schtick. On top of that men are created so unequal in the United States that it is necessary to argue with people that the poor deserve to continue living. Quit sniffing your own farts, its impeding your ability to be coherent and form an argument.

I'm talking about how the west the US wad founded on Judo Christan values while I am atheist as well I at least note how Christianity is what founded the values of the western society.

[Tokora]

Don't feel so bad you have Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam, China and Venezuela.

Actually just Cuba is still Socialist. Vietnam was forced to open its economy to corporate imperialism, China is capitalist totalitarianism, and North Korea is just totalitarianism with a little bit of monarchism thrown in. I'm still trying to figure out Maduro.

I agree. We need to defend these countries and stand with them against western imperialism.

What about eastern imperialism?

He's right, Chinese corporations are just as dangerous as American ones, maybe even a little more so.

Love thy enemy all men are created equal.

What does that even mean? Biblical quotes and nonsense? Do you have an argument, if not why are you here?
Western society loves its enemies to the point it bombs their children and gets mad when another group of half cocked asshats go off and try to do the whole death to the west schtick. On top of that men are created so unequal in the United States that it is necessary to argue with people that the poor deserve to continue living. Quit sniffing your own farts, its impeding your ability to be coherent and form an argument.

I'm in the super-minority here but I still think that Religion and Socialism can mix perfectly if just given the opportunity. The problem is that it's hard to get to Religious Socialism since we kept stamping out regular socialism so that ship has kind of sailed.

[United Muscovite Nations]

could you define good values

Love thy enemy all men are created equal.

I just want to point out that this isn't from the Bible. Thomas Jefferson's use of the phrase was its first appearance.

[Wysten]

Love thy enemy all men are created equal.

I just want to point out that this isn't from the Bible. Thomas Jefferson's use of the phrase was its first appearance.

I was talking about western values but I am sorry for the confusion.

[Sanctissima]

Love thy enemy all men are created equal.

Literally what socialism stands for, just without the god nonsense.

Ah yes, so that's why Socialist regimes have astronomically high death tolls. :^)

[Aguaria Major]

What the Hell are you talking about? There actually are, despite the introduction to this forum, socialist nations, by definition, that exist in the world today (Sweden, Norway, Finland, Denmark, Germany), and they have some of the lowest death tolls, and highest standards of living, in the world today.